IRS Scandal explodes. "no evidence that would support a criminal prosecution."

[Bowfinger]

I frequently go off on tangents when I answered the question that was asked in the post before the question was asked.

Do you understand the concept of consent to monitoring now?

I understand that perfectly. You didn't answer my question, however. Why would I care if monitoring revealed I forwarded a recipe to my home account? Unless there is a strict, absolutely no personal use of email policy in force, it wouldn't make any difference to me if others saw my recipe, or that funny cartoon, or a copy of my travel itinerary, or whatever other (non-sensitive) information I sent home.

Are you asserting there was such a strict email policy in place at the IRS? If so, kindly cite your source. Are you insinuating Lerner sent something inappropriate to her home account? Again, if so, cite your source.

 

[Knowing]

I understand that perfectly. You didn't answer my question, however. Why would I care if monitoring revealed I forwarded a recipe to my home account? Unless there is a strict, absolutely no personal use of email policy in force, it wouldn't make any difference to me if others saw my recipe, or that funny cartoon, or a copy of my travel itinerary, or whatever other (non-sensitive) information I sent home.

Are you asserting there was such a strict email policy in place at the IRS? If so, kindly cite your source. Are you insinuating Lerner sent something inappropriate to her home account? Again, if so, cite your source.

Ah, I see what you're driving at now.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

So when should this explosion happen? I'm serious will the 2 year mark be enough?
I do still think there needs to be a non partisan look into what happened to ensure the IRS isn't looking to discredit groups that are against its existence. Congress should also clarify what is a valid donation vs an invalid donation to make the IRS's job easier and consistent.

 

[werepossum]

So when should this explosion happen? I'm serious will the 2 year mark be enough?
I do still think there needs to be a non partisan look into what happened to ensure the IRS isn't looking to discredit groups that are against its existence. Congress should also clarify what is a valid donation vs an invalid donation to make the IRS's job easier and consistent.

It took Congress two years to recover the first official business message that Lerner conducted on her doggie account. I fail to see what a non-partisan organization might be expected to accomplish.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

It took Congress two years to recover the first official business message that Lerner conducted on her doggie account. I fail to see what a non-partisan organization might be expected to accomplish.

Not stir up useless shit

What direction do you think an investigation would go if Bernie Sanders or Ted Cruze were to organize it.

 

[werepossum]

Not stir up useless shit

What direction do you think an investigation would go if Bernie Sanders or Ted Cruze were to organize it.

Point, but the proggies in the IRS and the White House' Executive branch aren't not cooperating because it's the Republicans asking, they are not cooperating because the information would be harmful politically no matter who obtained it. Same with the Pubbies in turn.

 

[Jhhnn]

Point, but the proggies in the IRS and the White House' Executive branch aren't not cooperating because it's the Republicans asking, they are not cooperating because the information would be harmful politically no matter who obtained it. Same with the Pubbies in turn.

Speculation & distortion presented as fact- standard right wing attack format.

 

[werepossum]

Speculation & distortion presented as fact- standard right wing attack format.

And once again the bot parses the post, consults its table, and vomits forth its linked propaganda statement.

Hey, 1990 called. It wants its code sophistication back.

 

[Jhhnn]

And once again the bot parses the post, consults its table, and vomits forth its linked propaganda statement.

Hey, 1990 called. It wants its code sophistication back.

So, uhh, that was "not intended to be a factual statement" I suppose.

If Repubs wanted more than juicy bits of perpetual scandal to drag out from time to time they'd force Lerner's testimony with a grant of immunity. This charade suits their propaganda purposes better than getting to the bottom of it ever will. It keeps the chumps on the line.

 

[ivwshane]

Oops! Another Republican scandal bites the dust!

“We found no evidence that any IRS official acted based on political, discriminatory, corrupt, or other inappropriate motives that would support a criminal prosecution,” Assistant Attorney General Peter Kadzik said in a letter to Congress on Friday.

“Based on the evidence developed in this investigation and the recommendation of experienced career prosecutors and supervising attorneys at the Department, we are closing our investigation and will not seek any criminal charges,” he continued.
Kadzik said the investigation found “substantial evidence of mismanagement, poor judgment, and institutional inertia, leading to the belief by many tax-exempt applicants that the IRS targeted them based on their political viewpoints” but concluded that “poor management is not a crime.”

I'm sure the righties here will just parrot Issa's talking point so I'll just quote it to save time:

Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.), who led an investigation into the IRS as chairman of the House Oversight Committee, blasted the Justice Department as giving Lerner a “free pass.”

"The Justice Department's decision to close the IRS targeting investigation without a single charge or prosecution is a low point of accountability in an Administration that is better known for punishing whistleblowers than the abuse and misconduct they expose,” Issa wrote in a statement

http://thehill.com/policy/finance/2...tion-of-lois-lerner-without-bringing-charges#

 

[Victorian Gray]

The fix was in, I tells ya.

 

[UberNeuman]

I heard that Issa was so upset about this news that he went out and burned down a small shed in the woods...

\allegedly...

 

[nickqt]

I heard that Issa was so upset about this news that he went out and burned down a small shed in the woods...

\allegedly...

Darrell Issa (DumpsterFire-CA)

 

[Fanatical Meat]

So no explosion? I've been waiting.

 

[Bowfinger]

Oops! Another Republican scandal bites the dust!


I'm sure the righties here will just parrot Issa's talking point so I'll just quote it to save time:


http://thehill.com/policy/finance/2...tion-of-lois-lerner-without-bringing-charges#

It won't change any minds. For the RNC faithful, the mere allegations were all the proof they needed. They have been most effectively -- and willingly -- brainwashed, and will continue to parrot their propaganda points no matter how many times they are shown to be wrong. They "know" all the speculation and innuendo are true. They feel it in their guts. Those feelings are what matter, not facts.

 

[fskimospy]

It won't change any minds. For the RNC faithful, the mere allegations were all the proof they needed. They have been most effectively -- and willingly -- brainwashed, and will continue to parrot their propaganda points no matter how many times they are shown to be wrong. They "know" all the speculation and innuendo are true. They feel it in their guts. Those feelings are what matter, not facts.

Yeah, my prediction is that they will simply widen the scope of the conspiracy to include the justice department. I would be surprised if a single person changed their mind even one iota.

 

[soundforbjt]

That "Bubble" is impossible to penetrate...It's made of "Truthiness".

 

[Jhhnn]

It won't change any minds. For the RNC faithful, the mere allegations were all the proof they needed. They have been most effectively -- and willingly -- brainwashed, and will continue to parrot their propaganda points no matter how many times they are shown to be wrong. They "know" all the speculation and innuendo are true. They feel it in their guts. Those feelings are what matter, not facts.

Yeah, my prediction is that they will simply widen the scope of the conspiracy to include the justice department. I would be surprised if a single person changed their mind even one iota.

Righties' headsets are attitudinal, mostly based on resentment over imagined wrongs done to them. Their love of trumped up scandal is merely a symptom of that. They're easily exploited by propaganda that feeds their resentment.

 

[Newell Steamer]

OP got owned - yet again and as per usual.

 

[Jhhnn]

OP got owned - yet again and as per usual.

Not in the truthiness of his own mind.

 

[Indus]

OP got owned - yet again and as per usual.

He sure is a glutton for punishment!

 

[Jhhnn]

The whole thing really is about tax avoidance & anonymity wrt paid political speech. The 501(c)4 structure allows for an enormous amount of both. That's what the right wing is trying to protect.

They pay people to say hateful & divisive things while having no direct accountability at all. It's a money laundering scheme that Meyer Lansky would have been proud to own.

That's the real scandal, not that the IRS was trying to thwart it.

 

[Bowfinger]

Yeah, my prediction is that they will simply widen the scope of the conspiracy to include the justice department. I would be surprised if a single person changed their mind even one iota.

Based on their deafening silence, it looks like they may just bury their heads in the sand. Crank the cognitive dissonance up to 11, that's the ticket!

In fairness, I suppose it may take a day or two to get the new talking points. First the Hillary beat-down, and now this. This was a bad week for RNC propagandists.

 

[michal1980]

OP got owned - yet again and as per usual.

How did I get owned?

IRS ran by Obama, got investigated by the DOJ that also works for Obama, about violating the rights of people that dont agree with Obama.

And the conclusion is, that the people that work for Obama, did not violate the rights of those that dont agree with him.


The fix was in from day 1.

 

[Newell Steamer]

The fix was in from day 1.

You impotent raging buffoon.