IRS Scandal explodes. "no evidence that would support a criminal prosecution."

[Fanatical Meat]

I'm still waiting for the explosion.

 

[Jhhnn]

Link

Another layer of the onion is peeled back




and for those that like to shoot the messenger
FoxNews

Gawd. From your link-

In the process of preparing this status report and for the August 24, 2015, release of Lerner communications, the undersigned attorneys learned that, in addition to emails to or from an email account denominated “Lois G. Lerner” or “Lois Home,” some emails responsive to Judicial Watch’s request may have been sent to or received from a personal email account denominated “Toby Miles.”

"May have been" being the operative phrase.

Judicial watch attorneys keeping the rubes strung out on the hopes of finding that great conspiracy.

 

[cabri]

And until they turn over the emails, we will never know.

 

[Jhhnn]

And until they turn over the emails, we will never know.

Even when they do, Righties will still Believe, believe, believe... that there's really something there despite coming up with nothing after years of fishing in that mud puddle. Whenever Judicial Watch so much as wiggles the pole they get all excited because it might be a big one.

Once convinced, they can't possibly change their minds, re-evaluate. New evidence and lack of evidence are meaningless to them.

Why do you think Repub leaders are so big on faith based anything?

Because religion teaches people how to think irrationally & dogmatically. It's the way they like it.

 

[HomerJS]

Call me when Toby Miles email shows up on Ashley Madison

 

[Bowfinger]

Link

Another layer of the onion is peeled back

OMG!!!!111 Lerner had TWO!!11! personal email accounts. TWO!!!!!!! That's the last straw! Throw the book at that dastardly bitch! Life in prison, mirite, with no chance of parole, for ... something. Something evil. Clearly. Err...


This is a perfect example of how the right uses innuendo to smear people, and how easy it is to dupe their faithful rubes. Lerner had two personal email accounts. So what? Good grief, I have several addresses I use for different purposes. I'll bet most of you do, too. How many taxpayer millions is the GOP willing to waste to investigate us all?

In spite of this latest round of breathless innuendo, there is no evidence she used her personal accounts for anything inappropriate, let alone illegal. If you read the stories, you'll find the only reason it came up at all is she cc'd that address on a couple of messages. I suspect 98% of all public employees have forwarded something to a home email account at one time or another: a funny cartoon, a good recipe, travel plans, etc. Do we investigate all of them? Again, how many millions of our dollars is the GOP going to blow on this witch hunt?

and for those that like to shoot the messenger
FoxNews

FFS, you guys need to learn to think. That's an op-ed by an RNC shill, a guy who makes his living attacking the left. He's artfully mixed innuendo, speculation, and outright lies to sucker the usual rubes. Naturally, it worked.

Want to see how he lies to you? Consider this paragraph:

We know that Lerner used her official IRS email to participate in the orchestration of this targeting scheme – even plotting with the Department of Justice (DOJ) to fabricate evidence – to, as she put it, “piece together false statement cases” so the DOJ could launch criminal prosecutions of law-abiding citizens in the absence of any complaints or evidence of wrongdoing.
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See how he insinuates that Lerner is making false statements so the DOJ can prosecute? Yeah, that's exactly backwards. The "false statements" in question are those submitted on some political groups' 501(c)(4) applications, fraudulently presenting themselves as qualified, non-political social welfare organizations. Lerner is discussing piecing together their false statements as evidence. That is a perfectly proper thing for her to do ... unless, of course, you think such groups should be free to break the law.

Face it, you guys have been duped again. The sooner you learn that your beloved nutter media sources lie to you -- consistently and shamelessly -- the sooner you can stop playing the fools. Remember how Goebbels said big lies are the easiest to sell, through constant repetition? You guys are the proof.

 

[Bowfinger]

[ ... ]
Why do you think Repub leaders are so big on faith based anything?

Because religion teaches people how to think irrationally & dogmatically. It's the way they like it.

I disagree. It teaches people to not think at all. It teaches them to blindly accept the claims of their shamans, no matter how preposterous they may be. It teaches them to suppress any critical thinking skills they may have. Clearly, it works.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

I disagree. It teaches people to not think at all. It teaches them to blindly accept the claims of their shamans, no matter how preposterous they may be. It teaches them to suppress any critical thinking skills they may have. Clearly, it works.

If this is true, why were so many of our greatest thinkers throughout history religious?

 

[Bowfinger]

If this is true, why were so many of our greatest thinkers throughout history religious?

There are as many answers to that as there are great thinkers. There are exceptions to every rule.

 

[werepossum]

If this is true, why were so many of our greatest thinkers throughout history religious?

And the converse, why so many hard leftist atheists pick their side and refuse to ever think beyond us and them. For people rejecting G-d they certainly worship and take marching orders from other humans better than most cultists.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

There are as many answers to that as there are great thinkers. There are exceptions to every rule.

That's a hell of a lot of exceptions my friend. You might want to "critically" think this through.

 

[Newell Steamer]

What's this?

The Right makes a claim about explosive scandals and Byzantine-esque plots to harm American citizens!?!

Why, yes, it is Thursday. Carry on.

 

[ivwshane]

If this is true, why were so many of our greatest thinkers throughout history religious?

Does "Venn diagram" mean anything to you?

 

[Moonbeam]

That's a hell of a lot of exceptions my friend. You might want to "critically" think this through.

I would suggest that anybody who thinks critically will arrive at the understanding, knowledge, flash of intuition, that thought is time, a split in the self as the thinker and what is thought about. Thought is always reflecting on the past and that the only way to enter the present is by being, the only experience of unity one can have is by presence, the realization that thought is death and separation. God is just a word some thinkers use to describe to other thinkers what they saw when thought ended. It is a word that implies the love that is when one awakens.

 

[Bowfinger]

That's a hell of a lot of exceptions my friend. You might want to "critically" think this through.

There have been a hell of a lot of human beings on this planet, my friend. Probability & Statistics 101.

 

[Bowfinger]

And the converse, why so many hard leftist atheists pick their side and refuse to ever think beyond us and them. For people rejecting G-d they certainly worship and take marching orders from other humans better than most cultists.

I think it's cute how you're so desperate to win one. You know what they say: half of all people are dumber than average. Atheists aren't somehow magically exempt from that.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

There have been a hell of a lot of human beings on this planet, my friend. Probability & Statistics 101.

Looks more like Bigotry 101 to me.

 

[Bowfinger]

Looks more like Bigotry 101 to me.

Only because you want to argue. There's nothing especially controversial about what I said. It is the role religion has played throughout much of our history, a tool to keep the masses obedient. That doesn't mean theism is inherently bad or wrong; to each his own. Nonetheless, it pushes people to substitute faith for critical thinking.

 

[Jhhnn]

And the converse, why so many hard leftist atheists pick their side and refuse to ever think beyond us and them. For people rejecting G-d they certainly worship and take marching orders from other humans better than most cultists.

Us vs them? Like the linked hit pieces from the NYP & Fox?

The multiple leaps of Faith & assumptions leading to the desired conclusion are utterly obvious to anybody who can actually detach from their emotions & think logically.

Or just convince yourself that it's not just an attention getting charade like all the other trumped up scandals that nutters fall for every time.

 

[PokerGuy]

Nonetheless, it pushes people to substitute faith for critical thinking.

BS. Critical thinking and faith can coexist perfectly well. Only a bigot like you would assume that someone who has faith substitutes it for critical thinking.

 

[PokerGuy]

As always, the same people carrying to torch in support for abuse of citizens -- but only those citizens they don't agree with politically. Carry on folks.

 

[Bowfinger]

As always, the same people carrying to torch in support for abuse of citizens -- but only those citizens they don't agree with politically. Carry on folks.

Yes, and it gets tiresome. Time and again we see the same conservative shills defending those who break our laws, damage our environment, and abuse the American public.

For all the RNC spin, that's the foundation of this IRS issue. IRS employees noted a surge in fraudulent 501(c)(4) applications and tried to investigate. Unfortunately, this surge was largely right wing organizations and the IRS employees were focused on results instead of politics. That's all the RNC slime machine and it's faithful flock needed to attack.

 

[Bowfinger]

BS. Critical thinking and faith can coexist perfectly well.

Of course they can. I didn't say otherwise. For most people, however, they do not. One dominates the other.

Only a bigot like you would assume that someone who has faith substitutes it for critical thinking.

Thanks! You deny observable reality to defend your faith. You illustrate my point perfectly.

 

[PokerGuy]

Yes, and it gets tiresome. Time and again we see the same conservative shills defending those who break our laws, damage our environment, and abuse the American public.

Show me where I've ever said any of those things are OK when done by a righty?

For all the RNC spin, that's the foundation of this IRS issue. IRS employees noted a surge in fraudulent 501(c)(4) applications and tried to investigate. Unfortunately, this surge was largely right wing organizations and the IRS employees were focused on results instead of politics. That's all the RNC slime machine and it's faithful flock needed to attack.

BS. The fact is that they used inappropriate filters that specifically targeted conservative groups. They've admitted that. No need to spin and try to whitewash. There is also plenty of evidence showing abuse of conservative groups (questions asked, delays in processing). Those are all simple facts. If you want to discuss the motivation behind the abuse (political vs efficiency), how high up the ladder it went (rogue players vs systemic or higher in leadership), who was responsible and so forth, we can do that, but you can't spin away the facts.

The fact that you condone and excuse away such abuse because it was directed at those with differing political views speaks volumes about you.

 

[ivwshane]

It must be harvest time today because you are overflowing with straw man arguments today. I've counted at least three so far

Show me where I've ever said any of those things are OK when done by a righty?



BS. The fact is that they used inappropriate filters that specifically targeted conservative groups. They've admitted that. No need to spin and try to whitewash. There is also plenty of evidence showing abuse of conservative groups (questions asked, delays in processing). Those are all simple facts. If you want to discuss the motivation behind the abuse (political vs efficiency), how high up the ladder it went (rogue players vs systemic or higher in leadership), who was responsible and so forth, we can do that, but you can't spin away the facts.

The fact that you condone and excuse away such abuse because it was directed at those with differing political views speaks volumes about you.

Nice spin. The fact is that they used filters, not just conservative filters, filters in general.