Iron Dome system achieves first short range rocket interception

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Abwx

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ZIO

1. Zio's Italian Kitchen
2. Android phone - Zio M6000
3. Zio, the first smartphone from Sanyo
4. Zio, Togo, a prefecture in southern Togo
5. Zio, the Italian word for uncle
6. Zio a major antagonist from the video game Phantasy Star IV
7. the Zonal Informatics Olympiad of the Indian Computing Olympiad
8. Franck Zio, a Burkinabé long jumper
9. Toyota Mark X ZiO, a crossover vehicle sold in Japan.


Lol....
Amazing that you support israel without knowing nothing
about its rulers ideology..
Zio is an abreviation of Zionism, a nationalist ideology founded
in the late 19th century and officialized at the Basel congress
in 1897 by Theodore Herzl..
The aim was to provide a country for the jews.
The first demand made to Cecil Rhodes, a british minister,
was to be given a part of Uganda..
Since the UK refused the demand, they shifted their
interest to Palestine, but the UK was not favourable.

During the first world war , they proposed a deal to the
british, that is, having rights over palestine in exchange
of the US getting dragged in the conflict in the UK side..

Once the US entered the conflict, they received
a promise from the UK , in a letter adressed to
lord Rothschild and known as the Balfour declaration..

You can find this and all the rest by googling..

Good luck...
 

Abwx

Lifer
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we only back saudi arabia because of oil.


we protect our interests.


we dont support them for any other reason, especially ideologically and if they decide tomorrow to stop selling oil to us and completely cut us out, expect us to invade them shortly thereafter

This is true, and as so , the loop is closed..
 

Freshgeardude

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Lol....
Amazing that you support israel without knowing nothing
about its rulers ideology..
Zio is an abreviation of Zionism, a nationalist ideology founded
in the late 19th century and officialized at the Basel congress
in 1897 by Theodore Herzl..
The aim was to provide a country for the jews.
The first demand made to Cecil Rhodes, a british minister,
was to be given a part of Uganda..
Since the UK refused the demand, they shifted their
interest to Palestine, but the UK was not favourable.

During the first world war , they proposed a deal to the
british, that is, having rights over palestine in exchange
of the US getting dragged in the conflict in the UK side..

Once the US entered the conflict, they received
a promise from the UK , in a letter adressed to
lord Rothschild and known as the Balfour declaration..

You can find this and all the rest by googling..

Good luck...


and so what?


the jews who immigrated to the land pre-47 all bought their land legally from people there.


so whats the problem?


go to 1947 and the partition plan, israel got 55% of the land, most of it the Negev, complete desert.

AND in the 1948 war, thousands of jews who lived arab designated areas were kicked out.

yet, they didnt sit around for other to help them like the palestinians did with the UNRWA, they instead resettled
 

Abwx

Lifer
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and so what?


the jews who immigrated to the land pre-47 all bought their land legally from people there.


so whats the problem?


go to 1947 and the partition plan, israel got 55% of the land, most of it the Negev, complete desert.

AND in the 1948 war, thousands of jews who lived arab designated areas were kicked out.

yet, they didnt sit around for other to help them like the palestinians did with the UNRWA, they instead resettled

You need seriously to upgrade your brain, it s less performing
that your PC CPU..

Pre 47, they did buy 6.8% of the land.

The plan gave them the most fertile lands where were
living the majority of the palestinians, as well as most
of the coasts, making 60% of the total area at stake..

They accepted of course, but they saw it as a step
to later get the remaining lands...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine


Quote from D. ben Gourion , Zionist leader and prime minister :

"The acceptance of partition does not commit us to renounce Transjordan: one does not demand from anybody to give up his vision. We shall accept a state in the boundaries fixed today, but the boundaries of Zionist aspirations are the concern of the Jewish people and no external factor will be able to limit them."

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/David_Ben-Gurion
 

Doppel

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Nobody can deny that this is function, so far, to high expectation. Yes, it's expensive, etc. but if it's already taken out several rockets the amount of now real-life data they are assimilating to upgrade the system is just going to make it even better.

Israel is not perfect but dare I say the majority of nations--including America, potentially--would have flattened Gaza by now, irrespective of any casualties.

Israel should have no problem paying for these counter-rocket missiles. $35k or 50k or whatever it is a piece it should be a drop in the bucket of the national budget.
 

Rebel44

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Anti missile systems won't help you very much against 50 thousand artillery pieces.

NK only has around 100 artilery pieces within range of Seoul - only long range artilery can reach that area (Seoul is 50Km from border) - normal artilery types dont have such range at all.

IMO in case of NK attack, best solution to deal with masive number of NK artilery (which can cause lots of damage and casualties even if not capable of hitting Seoul) would be few 50Kt nukes.

Also NK doesnt have 50K artilery pieces - current estimates are that NK army has total of around 13 000 artilery pieces that can be used in south (not counting fixed positions that cannot fire on SK territory).
 
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Freshgeardude

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You need seriously to upgrade your brain, it s less performing
that your PC CPU..

Pre 47, they did buy 6.8% of the land.

The plan gave them the most fertile lands where were
living the majority of the palestinians, as well as most
of the coasts, making 60% of the total area at stake..

They accepted of course, but they saw it as a step
to later get the remaining lands...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine


Quote from D. ben Gourion , Zionist leader and prime minister :

"The acceptance of partition does not commit us to renounce Transjordan: one does not demand from anybody to give up his vision. We shall accept a state in the boundaries fixed today, but the boundaries of Zionist aspirations are the concern of the Jewish people and no external factor will be able to limit them."

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/David_Ben-Gurion


clearly, this is 6.8%

Map_of_1947_Jewish_settlements_in_Palestine.png



You have obviously NEVER been to israel.


328px-UN_Partition_Plan_For_Palestine_1947.svg.png


draw a line from under the words "beersheba" across the entire country. Everything south of that line is desert. its name is the Negev


the West Bank has a lot of fertile land, the arabs got most of it. above the west bank, on the right side is also very fertile land. israel got that.


the coast is decent, and the part the arabs got which is haifa is also fertile land.


its obvious you know nothing about the land of israel and talk out of your ass.
 
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Nebor

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NK only has around 100 artilery pieces within range of Seoul - only long range artilery can reach that area (Seoul is 50Km from border) - normal artilery types dont have such range at all.

IMO in case of NK attack, best solution to deal with masive number of NK artilery (which can cause lots of damage and casualties even if not capable of hitting Seoul) would be few 50Kt nukes.

Also NK doesnt have 50K artilery pieces - current estimates are that NK army has total of around 13 000 artilery pieces that can be used in south (not counting fixed positions that cannot fire on SK territory).

They have more than 100 artillery pieces capable of hitting Seoul. Their MLRS systems in particular have more than enough range to hit Seoul. Their conventional artillery likely won't cut it though.

Intel is constantly updated to keep NK artillery targeted by our own GMLRS systems.

The rounds they got off before being destroyed by counter-fires would be fairly disastrous to Seoul though.

This Iron Dome system would likely be invaluable in intercepting NK MLRS rockets.
 

DucatiMonster696

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Pretty impressive. If this works well it could make Israel secure enough to risk giving Palestinians more autonomy.

And could reduce the threat of N Korean artillery to Seoul.

Why reward this group of people and their leaders who continue to demand for the extinction of their nation/people just because they have a counter to the preferred method of terrorism employed by said group? Maybe if they stop firing rockets at Israel (and stop committing other acts of violence) there can be a conversation on the topic but until then its a no go IMHO.
 
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wuliheron

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I'm packing up right now to surrender..


Surrendering doesn't put you out of reach of artillery shells, but bomb shelters are becoming more popular again. Nothing like a few feet of serious steel, concrete and earth to help you sleep like a baby.
 

PieIsAwesome

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Missile defense systems are so ridiculous and a huge waste of taxpayer money.

No they're not. It depends on the type of missile system and how effective it is.

Missile defense systems aboard ships (as part of the Aegis system) are invaluable, and have shot down anti-ship missiles in past engagements.

Its good to see that this Israeli system works. Previously, an Israeli tank with the Windbreaker system shot down an RPG.
 

PieIsAwesome

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They have more than 100 artillery pieces capable of hitting Seoul. Their MLRS systems in particular have more than enough range to hit Seoul. Their conventional artillery likely won't cut it though.

Intel is constantly updated to keep NK artillery targeted by our own GMLRS systems.

The rounds they got off before being destroyed by counter-fires would be fairly disastrous to Seoul though.

This Iron Dome system would likely be invaluable in intercepting NK MLRS rockets.

Their MRLS actually can't reach Seoul. Their Koksan guns can, as they have greater range, but only if they are right behind the border, and their are limited protected sites from which they can fire from.

There are cities and urban centers closer to the border, though, that could definitely use some protection.
 

Broheim

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Missile defense systems are so ridiculous and a huge waste of taxpayer money.

the system protects the civilian population from a very real threat, if I lived within range of Palestinian rockets/missiles I'd be more than happy that my taxmoney went to the protection of my family instead of being used to decide on an official state firearm or the likes...
 

freegeeks

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Their MRLS actually can't reach Seoul. Their Koksan guns can, as they have greater range, but only if they are right behind the border, and their are limited protected sites from which they can fire from.

There are cities and urban centers closer to the border, though, that could definitely use some protection.

there is an article on globalsecurity, seoul would be royally f**cked, at least 500 artillery pieces and MRLS able to reach seoul, dont know where you get your information

look for it, even if they can only attack for a few hours, damage would be incredible, we are talking about many thousand of shells per hour raining down until they can be destroyed and im not even talking about chemical or biological weapons