Iron Dome system achieves first short range rocket interception

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lothar

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Proof? Are you an Air Defense Artillery officer? Because the couple that I know know of no proven instances of any patriot engaging a non-breathing airborne threat successfully in combat. The patriot is good for shooting down planes\helicopters though (we have the most effective kill record against friendly aircraft.) Billing it as an effective anti-missile\rocket shield is just more of Raytheon sticking it to the American tax payer.
www.acq.osd.mil/dsb/reports/ADA435837.pdf
 

Zebo

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Pfft. This is like a dude punching you in the face and you go buy head gear to make it stop. Israel should play who has the better missile game instead of wasting all this money. For every missile launched Israel launches one. See how many come. Won't be too many.
 

Craig234

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Great, now the Palestinians just need one to keep out Israeli settlers and military.

This has benefits for saving some lives - but is no solution to the ongoing injustices.

Leaving one side more able to continue oppression indefinitely and the other not helped by it, is still a problem.

Let's fix the real problem and not just fix one small part.
 

Craig234

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Pfft. This is like a dude punching you in the face and you go buy head gear to make it stop. Israel should play who has the better missile game instead of wasting all this money. For every missile launched Israel launches one. See how many come. Won't be too many.

Yes, kill innocents in the group you are oppressing, always a good idea. How did the Nazis do it, kill one of them and they kill 10 innocents? Or was it 20?
 

Zebo

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Yes, kill innocents in the group you are oppressing, always a good idea. How did the Nazis do it, kill one of them and they kill 10 innocents? Or was it 20?

fail. Israel is not oppressive on anyone. And I;m not sure what Hitler has to do with anything, collective damage is how wars are won for all eternal time. That's what Hamas uses. Responding in kind is only polite.
 

Freshgeardude

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Great, now the Palestinians just need one to keep out Israeli settlers and military.

This has benefits for saving some lives - but is no solution to the ongoing injustices.

Leaving one side more able to continue oppression indefinitely and the other not helped by it, is still a problem.

Let's fix the real problem and not just fix one small part.


tell that to the UN for creating the UNRWA to not help the palestinians resettle all while taking in half a billion a year, to "help" 4.5 million, while the UNHCR (aka the real refugee assistance program) actually resettles refugees, including the hundreds of thousands of jews that were kicked out of arab countries in 48 and 67 simply because they were jewish, all while taking in 1.1 billion a year and helps over 20 million.


the UN is helping keep a refugee problem.

they created the palestinian mandate of 1947, but then created an organization to not resettle people whose homes were moved

http://www.unrwa.org/etemplate.php?id=86

Under UNRWA's operational definition, Palestine refugees are people whose normal place of residence was Palestine between June 1946 and May 1948, who lost both their homes and means of livelihood as a result of the 1948 Arab-Israeli conflict.

that is the definition, yet they service millions that were moved AFTER 1948 because of a war started by 7 arab nations onto israel.


and the UN doesnt have arab bias. pssh
 
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Abwx

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fail. Israel is not oppressive on anyone. And I;m not sure what Hitler has to do with anything, collective damage is how wars are won for all eternal time. That's what Hamas uses. Responding in kind is only polite.

Yet another zio brainwashed...
Seems they take pleasure to trust their own lies...
 

Nebor

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I'm skeptical. There are no videos of successful Patriot intercepts, and it's generally a poorly regarded system amongst those that operate it. It's extraordinarily fragile too.

I've met a couple of logistics types that said they saw a successful patriot intercept in the first Gulf War.... but like I said, I'm skeptical. The Patriot system is big money for Raytheon, and Raytheon is a very powerful organization.
 

Abwx

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iron_dome.jpg




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To be complete, you must put a more accurate legend on this map..
On the left side of the ironed fence : land stolen and occuped by nazis...
On the right side of the ironed fence : concentration camp..
 

Nebor

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To be complete, you must put a more accurate legend on this map..
On the left side of the ironed fence : land stolen and occuped by nazis...
On the right side of the ironed fence : concentration camp..

Sweet. Does that mean they'll start gassing the Palestinians soon so I won't have to hear about them acting a fool on the news all the time?
 

Freshgeardude

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Sweet. Does that mean they'll start gassing the Palestinians soon so I won't have to hear about them acting a fool on the news all the time?


and does it mean we get to point the finger at the UN for creating the palestinian mandate

AND the arab nations for starting wars in which israel gained more land?
 

Abwx

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Perhaps you should all perform a little more of your Kol Nidre
prayers, it should help you to be forgiven for your coming crimes..

John 8:44

For you are the children of your father the devil, and you love to do the evil things he does. He was a murderer from the beginning. He has always hated the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, it is consistent with his character; for he is a liar and the father of lies.
 
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nonlnear

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Even if each and every one of those 200 rockets was intercepted by Iron Dome, it would only cost Israel 7 million USD a day.
That can add up pretty quickly over the long term. (Which is of course a rather unrealistic hypothetical scenario as this kind of barrage would never be long term, but I'm just playing here so humor me.)
Now launching such massive attacks would make the launchers very vulnerable and probably within 2 days IDF would disable most of the launching capabilities.
I was thinking that with an influx like that the IDF would do a good deal more than even what you said - hence the last sentence of my previous post.
 

Matt1970

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Perhaps you should all perform a little more of your Kol Nidre
prayers, it should help you to be forgiven for your coming crimes..

John 8:44

For you are the children of your father the devil, and you love to do the evil things he does. He was a murderer from the beginning. He has always hated the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, it is consistent with his character; for he is a liar and the father of lies.

I thought it was against Islamic Jihad for you to even look at a Bible verse. LOL
 

Abwx

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I thought it was against Islamic Jihad for you to even look at a Bible verse. LOL

Jesus is a prophete according to the Quran , and his
disciples, as such, are considered holy men..

ONLY JEWS CURSE JESUS...

Indeed, it show how much the zio brainwashed christians
are fooled by a community that daily curse their most
revered prophete if we except a tiny community of jews
that are rejected by the vast majority of the community..

Your words just prove that you are intellectually
close to zero , and the absolute one...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_Islam

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews_for_Jesus
 
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Zebo

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Perhaps you should all perform a little more of your Kol Nidre
prayers, it should help you to be forgiven for your coming crimes..

John 8:44

For you are the children of your father the devil, and you love to do the evil things he does. He was a murderer from the beginning. He has always hated the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, it is consistent with his character; for he is a liar and the father of lies.

I should have known you were a religious nut. Facts are offensive to people of religion not wonder you can't get em straight.
 

Abwx

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I should have known you were a religious nut. Facts are offensive to people of religion not wonder you can't get em straight.

Lol...
Not my nature of boasting about my curriculum,
but it s very highly unlikely that you performed
as much degrees and as much foreigns languages
as i did , and not in religious affairs...

You are simply not up to the task intellectualy speaking...

Here one of your israeli friends :

http://card.wordpress.com/20s7/02/26/racist-rabbi-compares-blacks-to-monkeys/
 
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Matt1970

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Lol...
Not my nature of boasting about my curriculum,
but it s very highly unlikely that you performed
as much degrees and as much foreigns languages
as i did , and not in religious affairs...

You are simply not up to the task intellectualy speaking...

Sorry pal, you fail at just about anything you speak of. See, this America you like to speak about lets its women walk the streets freely showing their faces. When a woman gets raped here, she is a victim and she isn't dragged out in the middle of the street and stoned to death.

I don’t even know why you come in this forum. There isn’t a single person here who shares your point of view. You back an organization that the European Union, the United States, Canada, Israel and Japan classify as a terrorist organization. You can call us a terrorist organization all you want but we don’t hide behind children launching RPG’s and we don’t strap explosives to ourselves and explode them in public places. If I am a zio brainwashed Christian for supporting my way of life then so be it. I am not even sure what a ZIO is anyways. Perhaps you can enlighten me with your thesaurus.
 

Abwx

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. Perhaps you can enlighten me with your thesaurus.

This, is not possible...
You should know to educate yourself by your own means.

Indeed, if you were logical, you would realize that the muslim
country where the women rights are the least respected is
Saudi Arabia , and this nation as well as his system are
very heavily backed by the US, so in a way , you are
accomplice of the woman bad fate in this country..

The muslim country where i did originate has 60%
of the lawyers, 55% of the doctors, and 50%
of the judges being women while they are 60%
of the university s students.

Dare to tell me which western country has such
high rate of women at these place....
 
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Matt1970

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This, is not possible...
You should know to educate yourself by your own means.

Indeed, if you were logical, you would realize that the muslim
country where the women rights are the least respected is
Saudi Arabia , and this nation as well as his system are
very heavily backed by the US, so in a way , you are
accomplice of the woman bad fate in this country..

The muslim country where i did originate has 60%
of the lawyers, 55% of the doctors, and 50%
of the judges being women while they are 60%
of the university s student.

Dare to tell me which western country has such
high rate of women at these place....

Saudi Arabia ranks above Afghanistan, Iraq, and Pakistan as far as womens rights go. Ya, lets here where you are from?
 

Matt1970

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This, is not possible...
You should know to educate yourself by your own means.

ZIO

1. Zio's Italian Kitchen
2. Android phone - Zio M6000
3. Zio, the first smartphone from Sanyo
4. Zio, Togo, a prefecture in southern Togo
5. Zio, the Italian word for uncle
6. Zio a major antagonist from the video game Phantasy Star IV
7. the Zonal Informatics Olympiad of the Indian Computing Olympiad
8. Franck Zio, a Burkinabé long jumper
9. Toyota Mark X ZiO, a crossover vehicle sold in Japan.
 

Abwx

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Saudi Arabia ranks above Afghanistan, Iraq, and Pakistan as far as womens rights go. Ya, lets here where you are from?

Iraq was on par with western countries for woman rights,
You can see the result of your " we will bring them democracy"...

As for where i come from, it doesn t matter..
What define someone is his culture and his ideas.

My country is the whole word...
 

Freshgeardude

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This, is not possible...
You should know to educate yourself by your own means.

Indeed, if you were logical, you would realize that the muslim
country where the women rights are the least respected is
Saudi Arabia , and this nation as well as his system are
very heavily backed by the US, so in a way , you are
accomplice of the woman bad fate in this country..

The muslim country where i did originate has 60%
of the lawyers, 55% of the doctors, and 50%
of the judges being women while they are 60%
of the university s students.

Dare to tell me which western country has such
high rate of women at these place....


we only back saudi arabia because of oil.


we protect our interests.


we dont support them for any other reason, especially ideologically and if they decide tomorrow to stop selling oil to us and completely cut us out, expect us to invade them shortly thereafter
 

Freshgeardude

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Iraq was on par with western countries for woman rights,
You can see the result of your " we will bring them democracy"...

As for where i come from, it doesn t matter..
What define someone is his culture and his ideas.

My country is the whole word...

clearly the whole world has the same culture and ideas.

retard.