Iraqis Shocked by Beheading, Despair Over Violence

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: MegaWorks
after watching the tape I can tell you that these guys were Jordanians, well the person in the middle giving his speech is. Oh BTW I speak arabic!

*** Hizbollah condemmed the beheading, from Al-Manar TV saw it an hour ago from their news bulletin***. They didn't have the statement on their web site yet. First Islamic militant group to condem the killing very nice

Yes, it is nice to see that they condemn it, but find no problem dropping mortars into the middle of Israeli towns.

 

[LTC8K6]

AR 190-8

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: MegaWorks
after watching the tape I can tell you that these guys were Jordanians, well the person in the middle giving his speech is. Oh BTW I speak arabic!

*** Hizbollah condemmed the beheading, from Al-Manar TV saw it an hour ago from their news bulletin***. They didn't have the statement on their web site yet. First Islamic militant group to condem the killing very nice

Yes, it is nice to see that they condemn it, but find no problem dropping mortars into the middle of Israeli towns.

Back on topic we go...

 

[SoylentGreen]

Originally posted by: Klixxer
ONE person died in a war zone, they killed a POW swiftly and painlessly, how is this any worse than what the US soldiers have done?

It's their goddamn country, don't like it? Get out!

Are you stupid or something?

"Stupid is as stupid posts sir"

Other people have posted why he was there, so no repeat necessary.

 

[MegaWorks]

ThePresence don't make me start!

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: ncircle

Originally posted by: Klixxer
Ok, now get this, 70-90% of all prisoners, including those who were beaten to death, tortured, raped and humiliated are innocent civilians.

You get what you give, and it is funny, because ncircle and others didn't say ONE WORD when US forces did this to Iraqis, you know, the country the US invaded to erm, i forget what it was for, what is the excuse for it this week?

LadyJessica: Leaving it will not create any more of a mess than the US is already creating, it was a mistake to invade, now the US is up to it's neck in dirt and it isn't going to get better, it is going to get worse. The problem is more complex than you make it, you are trying to enforce democracy and a culture and they are telling you they don't want you there, it is THEIR country, to do with as they wish.

To Kage69, you are correct, it wasn't painless, but a lot less painful than months of beating, rape, getting stuff shoved into your rectum and then beaten to death.

You get what you give.

you've guessed right all along.
i dont give a rats HOOT about the iraqis!
you want an admission well you got it.

Speaking of Europe
You'd have been highly regarded in Nazi Germany.

Ever thought of working for the Bush campaign?

 

[Shad0hawK]

Originally posted by: Klixxer
ONE person died in a war zone, they killed a POW swiftly and painlessly, how is this any worse than what the US soldiers have done?

It's their goddamn country, don't like it? Get out!

i do not know what fantasy world you are in, but getting your head cut off with a knife is not "painless"(maybe that is why the guy getting his head cut off was screaming..maybe not..)

how is it worse? well who is better off, some people were "humilated" by beign forced into nude pyramids or the dead guy?

hmmm...let me think.


you are in "my" country and i do not like it, does that mean you should leave, foreigner?

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: virtueixi

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: chrisms

Originally posted by: Klixxer
ONE person died in a war zone, they killed a POW swiftly and painlessly, how is this any worse than what the US soldiers have done?

It's their goddamn country, don't like it? Get out!

Because this guy was innocent, he was not a prisoner of war he was a hostage. He was only in Iraq to help rebuild infastructure, not fight the war. And they videotaped it and posted it on the internet to show off his killing.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040510/D82FRB680.html
GENEVA (AP) - A Red Cross report disclosed Monday said coalition intelligence officers estimated that 70-90 percent of Iraqi detainees were arrested by mistake


AND HERE IS WHAT THE US DID WITH THE PEOPLE ARRESTED MISTAKENLY

-- Breaking chemical lights and pouring phosphoric liquid on detainees;

-- Beating detainees with a broom handle and chair;

-- Threatening male detainees with rape;

-- Sodomizing a detainee with a chemical light and perhaps with a broomstick."

-- A male MP guard having sex with a female detainee; THIS IS CALLED RAPE

-- Forcing groups of male detainees to masturbate themselves while being photographed and videotaped;

I couldn't find that in that article, what was your source? Although I did find this:

"The report described how male prisoners were forced to parade around in women's underwear."

sorry about that...
SOURCE
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4894033/

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: MegaWorks
ThePresence don't make me start!

I would actually enjoy that argument, but I don't want to hijack the thread.

 

[Genx87]

GENEVA (AP) - A Red Cross report disclosed Monday said coalition intelligence officers estimated that 70-90 percent of Iraqi detainees were arrested by mistake

Are they going to disclose the names of the intelligence officers?

 

[arsbanned]

klixxer, you're out of line on this one. To suggest Berg deserved what he got puts you in league with the rest of the vitriol spewing hyenas around here.
And anyone who suggests that Berg's murder was quick and painless is nuts.

 

[conjur]

Hezbollah condemns the beheading

BEIRUT (Reuters) - Lebanon's Hizbollah guerrilla group condemned Wednesday the beheading of an American hostage by Iraqi militants as an ugly crime that flouted the tenets of Islam.
"Hizbollah condemns this horrible act that has done very great harm to Islam and Muslims by this group that claims affiliation to the religion of mercy, compassion and humane principles," the Shi'ite Muslim group said in a statement.

An Islamist Web site Tuesday carried a video clip of the execution of the man who identified himself as Nick Berg, with a statement saying a group linked to al Qaeda did it in revenge for the abuse of Iraqis by U.S. troops.

Hizbollah said Berg's killing had diverted the world's gaze from an escalating furor over the abuse of Iraqi prisoners by occupation soldiers.

"The timing of this act that overshadowed the scandal over the abuse of Iraqi prisoners in occupation forces prisons is suspect timing that aims to serve the American administration and occupation forces in Iraq and present excuses and pretexts for their inhumane practices against Iraqi detainees."

The Syrian-backed group which the United States deems "terrorist" said the executors' behavior was closer to "the Pentagon school -- the school of killing and occupation and crimes and torture and immoral practices that were exposed by the great scandal in occupation prisons."

Washington blames Hizbollah, whose attacks forced Israeli troops to withdraw from south Lebanon in 2000 after a 22-year occupation, for 1980s suicide bombings against its embassy and Marines barracks and the abduction of Westerners in Beirut.

 

[etech]

Originally posted by: conjur
Hezbollah condemns the beheading

BEIRUT (Reuters) - Lebanon's Hizbollah guerrilla group condemned Wednesday the beheading of an American hostage by Iraqi militants as an ugly crime that flouted the tenets of Islam.
"Hizbollah condemns this horrible act that has done very great harm to Islam and Muslims by this group that claims affiliation to the religion of mercy, compassion and humane principles," the Shi'ite Muslim group said in a statement.

An Islamist Web site Tuesday carried a video clip of the execution of the man who identified himself as Nick Berg, with a statement saying a group linked to al Qaeda did it in revenge for the abuse of Iraqis by U.S. troops.

Hizbollah said Berg's killing had diverted the world's gaze from an escalating furor over the abuse of Iraqi prisoners by occupation soldiers.

"The timing of this act that overshadowed the scandal over the abuse of Iraqi prisoners in occupation forces prisons is suspect timing that aims to serve the American administration and occupation forces in Iraq and present excuses and pretexts for their inhumane practices against Iraqi detainees."

The Syrian-backed group which the United States deems "terrorist" said the executors' behavior was closer to "the Pentagon school -- the school of killing and occupation and crimes and torture and immoral practices that were exposed by the great scandal in occupation prisons."

Washington blames Hizbollah, whose attacks forced Israeli troops to withdraw from south Lebanon in 2000 after a 22-year occupation, for 1980s suicide bombings against its embassy and Marines barracks and the abduction of Westerners in Beirut.

That is the only reason Hizbollah is upset, it has interupted their ranting about American abuse.