Now why was it the initial reports of the looting were NEVER questioned here by those thta question EVERY possible WMD report? The stories were accpeted as FACT without question and used as a basis to place the blame for the los squarely on the US. very telling...
It's amusing how the facts make the contrarian Bush haters suddenly very interested in other threads.
Let me see if I've got it . . .
Iraq has a dangerous cache of WMD and a history of using it . . . which is the PRIMARY reason the US supported sanctions and most recently deposed the regime.
After months of UN inspections, months of covert US missions, and now almost a month of free reign in the country no substantitive WMD materials have been found but it doesn't matter. The UN should end sanctions now . . . we will find the WMD eventually.
The press reports thousands of artifacts stolen. DOD says it's not their fault . . . it's just the people releasing some steam. Campus pillow biters decry the lack of concern the evil Bush Empire shows for Iraqi history. Neo-twit post of the week is about the lack of stolen artifacts. Campus pillow biter #2 calls it proof the US is a lying, imperialist regime determined to destroy all that cannot burn in a V-10. Neo-twit #2 responds with a new link noting the benevolent US government has retrieved thousands of artifacts . . . which according to neo-twit #1 were never missing in the first place.
Iraq has a dangerous cache of WMD and a history of using it . . . which is the PRIMARY reason the US supported sanctions and most recently deposed the regime.
After months of UN inspections, months of covert US missions, and now almost a month of free reign in the country no substantitive WMD materials have been found but it doesn't matter. The UN should end sanctions now . . . we will find the WMD eventually.
The press reports thousands of artifacts stolen. DOD says it's not their fault . . . it's just the people releasing some steam. Campus pillow biters decry the lack of concern the evil Bush Empire shows for Iraqi history. Neo-twit post of the week is about the lack of stolen artifacts. Campus pillow biter #2 calls it proof the US is a lying, imperialist regime determined to destroy all that cannot burn in a V-10. Neo-twit #2 responds with a new link noting the benevolent US government has retrieved thousands of artifacts . . . which according to neo-twit #1 were never missing in the first place.
Let me see if I've got it . . .
How can you possibly see anything with your head up your @ss? You just cannot admit that the reporting regarding the Iraqi artifacts was a) overblown and b) has essentially ignored US efforts to rectify the thefts (which have been exceptionally successful).
How can you possibly see anything with your head up your @ss? You just cannot admit that the reporting regarding the Iraqi artifacts was a) overblown and b) has essentially ignored US efforts to rectify the thefts (which have been exceptionally successful).
Actually some of us have lives. I don't watch CNN, MSNBC, FOXNews, or the BBC for hours on end. The war was a tragic failure of diplomacy NOT a spectator sport. If one item from the cradle of civilization was stolen it's a crime against humanity . . . when the whole damn museum is sacked it's a disaster. What's overblown is your self righteousness . . . along with the rest of the pro-preemption crowd who think 'winning' is all that matters. Allegedly we are the good guys . . . which means we must meet a higher standard . . . as the great green short one says, "there is no try . . . only do."
Indeed the US efforts to recover artifacts have been very good . . . but much like our call to battle . . . shouldn't we have known that certain locations MUST be protected even at the cost of American lives? Rumsfeld et al crow about saving the oil fields but the richness of history is invaluable. He didn't give a shyte before the war, during, or in the aftermath. At least one decent individual in the administration resigned because he gave DOD advanced notice of what would occur.
By your ledger, you want credit for liberating Iraq but no responsibility for the lack of water, electricity, or security. You want credit for minimizing civilian casualties but make no effort to count them or secure the hospitals in a timely fashion. You want credit for protecting the oil fields but no responsibility for protecting cultural treasures.
You are quite right that America deserves credit for EVERYTHING it has done right in this war. And as soon as you accept the fact that criticism of American actions can be just as valid as your adulation . . . you just might have the inkling of a legitimate argument for excessive criticism versus inadequate gratis for a job well done. Not much of an argument if you are watching/reading anything by Murdoch . . . but at least you would have a start.
Indeed the US efforts to recover artifacts have been very good . . . but much like our call to battle . . . shouldn't we have known that certain locations MUST be protected even at the cost of American lives? Rumsfeld et al crow about saving the oil fields but the richness of history is invaluable. He didn't give a shyte before the war, during, or in the aftermath. At least one decent individual in the administration resigned because he gave DOD advanced notice of what would occur.
By your ledger, you want credit for liberating Iraq but no responsibility for the lack of water, electricity, or security. You want credit for minimizing civilian casualties but make no effort to count them or secure the hospitals in a timely fashion. You want credit for protecting the oil fields but no responsibility for protecting cultural treasures.
You are quite right that America deserves credit for EVERYTHING it has done right in this war. And as soon as you accept the fact that criticism of American actions can be just as valid as your adulation . . . you just might have the inkling of a legitimate argument for excessive criticism versus inadequate gratis for a job well done. Not much of an argument if you are watching/reading anything by Murdoch . . . but at least you would have a start.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,3604,974063,00.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A29518-2003Jun7.html
http://online.wsj.com/article_email/0,,SB105485037080424400,00.html
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/06/0602_030602_iraqgold.html
edited the links, please update the quote below.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A29518-2003Jun7.html
http://online.wsj.com/article_email/0,,SB105485037080424400,00.html
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/06/0602_030602_iraqgold.html
edited the links, please update the quote below.
Only one of those links worked...the ones with the ellipses appear to be shortened URLs that you cut-n-pasted?
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