Iraqi journalist throws shoes at Bush

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: ObscureCaucasian

This guy better get a very serious sentence, you can't set the precedent that is's okay to hurl objects at the President of the United States.

What precedent, and where? It's Iraq. They haven't had a functional judiciary since before Saddam.

I know the guy meant to insult Bush, but the reality is that he just made an ass of himself. First off his insult is on that is lost on 90% of Americans, and second he missed.

So what? He did it in Iraq where the meaning of the insult most certainly was not lost.

Luckily I heard the guy could get 7-8 years in prision.

From the public reaction, it's more likely he'll get a hero's parade.

 

[tatteredpotato]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: ObscureCaucasian

This guy better get a very serious sentence, you can't set the precedent that is's okay to hurl objects at the President of the United States.

What precedent, and where? It's Iraq. They haven't had a functional judiciary since before Saddam.

I know the guy meant to insult Bush, but the reality is that he just made an ass of himself. First off his insult is on that is lost on 90% of Americans, and second he missed.

So what? He did it in Iraq where the meaning of the insult most certainly was not lost.

Luckily I heard the guy could get 7-8 years in prision.

From the public reaction, it's more likely he'll get a hero's parade.

al-Maliki called for it, so who knows.

 

[jyates]

I hear the Red Sox are looking to recruit that fastshoe thrower and that Bush potentially has a lucrative dodge ball career waiting for him when he leaves office in a few weeks.

 

[fallout man]

LOL

 

[Craig234]

I think it's great the guy did this, almost. I'm not saying I think it'd be great if just anyone did it for some other reason, but for an Iraqi journalist to express this view this way, I think is great as an 'emperor has no clothes' sort of incident where the widespread anger among many Iraqis was expressed that was otherwise buried under government PR, and in a harmless, almost non-violent manner. I do think it's just a little too violent.

The Iraqi people getting some direct chance to show their displeasure for the countless thousands needlessly killed with reckless policies, the billions squandered, the museums looted for lack of planning despite a lot of advance warning, the attempted but failed takeover of the country by an extremist American right-wing ideology - good.

I think the guy should get some but minimal punishment. If he spent a day in jail I'm ok. Not as a precendent for all shoe throwers to get a day, but for this situation.

 

[runestone]

I'm sure the shoe martyr missed the good old Saddam days- when he and his entire family would have been literally thrown into a meatgrinder.

 

[trenchfoot]

I wonder what happened to those now very famous shoes? We'll probably see them on Ebay any time now, or some "very reasonable facsimilies" thereof.

I'm with those that wished that Bush had defended himself by deflecting those shoes with his face or at least catching them with his mouth like the dog he is accused of being. Eh, at least he was close/quick enough to notice the shoe size imprinted in the insole and smell how fragrant they were as they zinged by.

Bush should wear those shoes as a symbol of his clear and decisive victory over the threat of Iraqi terrorism and their intent to export their numerous terrorists wielding those untold thousands of WMD's that were never found.

edit - spl

 

[Steeplerot]

In parallel universe -here's the money shot.

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: runestone
I'm sure the shoe martyr missed the good old Saddam days- when he and his entire family would have been literally thrown into a meatgrinder.

Do you think any of them actually care seeing as how many innocent people Bush has gotten killed now?
I heard they pulled down a Bush statue where the Saddam one was the other day.

Things have gone full circle. Only ones who may be happier or safer without Saddam are the Kurds, who will stab us in the back sooner or later just like our "friends" did in Afghanistan.
Hate to break it to you, but the Kurds are terrorists wit ha agenda also we currently support, and right-wingers supporting Bush are their useful idiots, just like Reagan supporters in the 80s with Afghanistan.
We learned nothing from 9/11 it seems so far seeing how we handled our foreign policy, glad this neocon faction and their apologists do not matter anymore.
We will see if Obama has a clue, he seems almost more of the same with Afganistan war. Maybe we can get a draw, Bush loses Iraq, Obama loses Afghanistan for us. 1 for 1. And of course the real losers? Our soldiers and the taxpayers who fund these imperialist bullshit wars.

This country is headed to the shitter, with a bunch of tools waving the flag and acting like our shit does not stink ignorant of what is really going on in the world because their head is up the US medias ass. Oh well, at least we can say we spend far more then anyone else on military, like that makes us anything other than as stupid as the Soviets in their last days.

Ironic, The Afghanistan war bankrupted the Soviets, and it is looking to be our imperialist grave also under Obama.

?Powerful states can maintain themselves only by crime, little states are virtuous only by weakness.? -Bakunin

 

[Zipp]

So they pulled down a statue of Bush?...Who did you hear this from?


Take a pill.

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: Zipp
So they pulled down a statue of Bush?...Who did you hear this from?


Take a pill.

Retracted,
It was a effigy of bush, not a actual statue, seems WaPo changed the term. Same difference.

 

[runestone]

Originally posted by: TheRedUnderURBed

Originally posted by: runestone
I'm sure the shoe martyr missed the good old Saddam days- when he and his entire family would have been literally thrown into a meatgrinder.

Do you think any of them actually care seeing as how many innocent people Bush has gotten killed now?
I heard they pulled down a Bush statue where the Saddam one was the other day.

Things have gone full circle. Only ones who may be happier or safer without Saddam are the Kurds, who will stab us in the back sooner or later just like our "friends" did in Afghanistan.
Hate to break it to you, but the Kurds are terrorists wit ha agenda also we currently support, and right-wingers supporting Bush are their useful idiots, just like Reagan supporters in the 80s with Afghanistan.
We learned nothing from 9/11 it seems so far seeing how we handled our foreign policy, glad this neocon faction and their apologists do not matter anymore.
We will see if Obama has a clue, he seems almost more of the same with Afganistan war. Maybe we can get a draw, Bush loses Iraq, Obama loses Afghanistan for us. 1 for 1. And of course the real losers? Our soldiers and the taxpayers who fund these imperialist bullshit wars.

This country is headed to the shitter, with a bunch of tools waving the flag and acting like our shit does not stink ignorant of what is really going on in the world because their head is up the US medias ass. Oh well, at least we can say we spend far more then anyone else on military, like that makes us anything other than as stupid as the Soviets in their last days.

Ironic, The Afghanistan war bankrupted the Soviets, and it is looking to be our imperialist grave also under Obama.

?Powerful states can maintain themselves only by crime, little states are virtuous only by weakness.? -Bakunin

Yes Red, I do think a lot of them care. I form my opinion from people I have talked with who have been in Iraq on more than one tour of duty.
I don't think the majority of our media gives a damn beyond their private views of America as an " imperialist", "neocon" blight on the world.
Bakunin's efforts to fight marxism and it's ilk would have earned him the scorn of modern day anarchists, like the ones burning businesses in Greece.
I digress.

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: runestone


Yes Red, I do think a lot of them care. I form my opinion from people I have talked with who have been in Iraq on more than one tour of duty.
I don't think the majority of our media gives a damn beyond their private views of America as an " imperialist", "neocon" blight on the world.
Bakunin's efforts to fight marxism and it's ilk would have earned him the scorn of modern day anarchists, like the ones burning businesses in Greece.
I digress.

What is going on in Greece is not a Anarchist thing, it is based mainly on Turk nationalists using the red and black flag. I find the whole thing to be rather silly and overblown really.

Back to Iraq:
And what US Media says such things? None. Quit with the strawman, I dare you to find me a mainstream media source that say anything about Iraq so bluntly as I or independent media sources do.
Hell, I dare you to find me one mainstream source that has the balls to criticize the Afghanistan war, it is still "off-limits" like Iraq was for the first few years thanks to the complacent media being in Bushes pocket.
The most risque thing you hear is that it is not going as easily as it was supposed to.
Same shit as Iraq, guess we should hurry up and lose Iraq before we can be adult enough to get to being honest about Afghanistan. :roll:

And give me a break, Baghdad is a shithole surrounded by walls now like Palestine. Great job guys! That is sure going to last and win hearts and minds.
Plenty of sources out there then the random internet guy who had to be stuck there who has his own agenda to deal with as far as having to put up with it.
Just do not trust soldiers anymore, that is unless I know them personally BEFORE they went, and even then you cannot get a straight answer most of the time because of emotional involvement.
Sorry to be harsh, but I am looking out for myself and you guys if you like it or not.
The wars are bullshit, and so it that winning hearts and minds stuff.

I am very anti-imperialist/war I admit, but I fully supported the CIA or whatever going in and taking Bin Laden out using the proper channels of intelligence. I am not going to get into any conspiracy theory BS but the ball sure got dropped there for whatever reason. And this is infuriating.

I hope for our sake and especially the soldiers sake we get some real answers soon as to why we got put into this mess. But I am not holding my breath with Obama so gung-ho about Afghanistan.

Anyhow, my apologies for going so far off on a tangent here in a thread about Bush shoe chucking.
Send Bush your shoe!

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: runestone
I don't think the majority of our media gives a damn beyond their private views of America as an " imperialist", "neocon" blight on the world.

When will you flag icon people get a clue that it's not 'all good' or 'all bad', that if the US does 10 million things, and 9.9 million are good and 100,000 bad, that's 100,000 bad things, and that's worth talkng about and doing something about, and that trying to twist the discussion into a defense that the people talking about the 100,000 are saying the US is only 'a blight on the world' doesn't address the actual issues? See my sig...

To answer my own question, for most of you, sadly, never. A few of you do grow out of it.

 

[runestone]

Oh Craig, please ignore the flag icon if you think myself or others use it as some emblem or ward against the evil eye.
My sentiments about the current Greek drama/trauma do very much echoe that of Red.
I think sometimes we lose sight of the greater goal, and get bogged down in rhetoric of "whose on first" etc.
We mostly all know that shades of gray take up most of the spectrum; in the end though,l think we end up choosing and fighting for a "more blackish or whitish" goal.
I wish I had more power of the word( I admit my shortcomings of education)- I would only say that we must hang together, rather than.....

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: runestone
Oh Craig, please ignore the flag icon if you think myself or others use it as some emblem or ward against the evil eye.
My sentiments about the current Greek drama/trauma do very much echoe that of Red.
I think sometimes we lose sight of the greater goal, and get bogged down in rhetoric of "whose on first" etc.
We mostly all know that shades of gray take up most of the spectrum; in the end though,l think we end up choosing and fighting for a "more blackish or whitish" goal.
I wish I had more power of the word( I admit my shortcomings of education)- I would only say that we must hang together, rather than.....

fwiw I am amazed someone here knows Bakunin besides one of the hardcore market libertarians. But then I have not been here long.
Don't mind Craig, although he has a point about he nationalists in here. They can be pretty rabid and do use the flag (or $) to basically troll people with their icon.
Pretty rare that someone without their heads up limbaugh or hannitys ass uses it thanks to those guys.

 

[SSSnail]

If you can dodge a shoe, you can dodge a ball.

 

[jonks]

Now the shoe-thrower's brother is claiming the guy was tortured while in detention. I call major bullshit on that. First off, they know the guy is going to be released so torturing him would just be fucking stupid. Second, if they did torture him, they sure as shit wouldn't let his brother in to say hi so he could tell everyone about it.

 

[fallout man]

Originally posted by: jonks
Now the shoe-thrower's brother is claiming the guy was tortured while in detention. I call major bullshit on that. First off, they know the guy is going to be released so torturing him would just be fucking stupid. Second, if they did torture him, they sure as shit wouldn't let his brother in to say hi so he could tell everyone about it.

The BBC sez that he's got a broken arm and broken ribs, among other injuries. Frankly, I wouldn't put it past the new Republiscam guard to beat the living fuck out of this guy for ruining a perfectly nice PR event.

Hilarity ensues when the posters here realize that the government we installed in Iraq is the same pack of scumbags, only with a fresh new faux scent of freedom and democracy. :rolleeyes;

Oh wait, I totally forgot--Iraq is all safe now, and it's all legit and democratic and responsible and shit. Mission Accomplished. Am I Rite?

WE R WINNAR(11!).

 

[cyclohexane]

man, that shoe was thrown hard! This guy throws harder than Barry Zito.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: manowar821

Originally posted by: Corbett
Wow, many of the responses in this thread are absolutely saddening.

Originally posted by: brxndxn
LOL good.. Hand-picked Iraqi press kiss-asses and STILL one of them hates Bush. Every where he goes, society needs to remind him of the fuckups he brought with his presidency.

Originally posted by: amdhunter
Too bad the Iraqi bastard missed.

Originally posted by: compuwiz1
Too bad the shoe thrower missed. Bush should be smacked up against the ears with those shoes.

Originally posted by: Lemon law
somehow I can't blame those soreheads giving GWB a tiny tiny fraction of what he deserves.

Originally posted by: GroundedSailor
Good to see the Iraqis using their freedom.

Originally posted by: waggy
i do have to admit it would have been funnyf if bush got naile din the head witht it.

Originally posted by: microbial
A fitting end to the GWB administration.

Originally posted by: BoomerD
I'd have loved to see "Made in China" imprinted on his forehead...

Originally posted by: Perry404
You're absolutely correct. The guy had no right to be angered over the million dead in his country since the wars beginning.

Originally posted by: colonel
gsave a few more for Dick and dont miss

How exactly are these responses "sad"?

Corbett was enrqaged when he read those responses

Time to lock another thread due to the trollmod.

Calling out a Mod when they are not posting as a Mod is auto ban the last I checked.

How did this get posted before Corbett's post?


Anyway, I lol'd at the pathetic responses he pulled out of this thread. I also lol'd at the pathetic attempt by RedDawn to attack Corbett.

 

[jman19]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: manowar821

Originally posted by: Corbett
Wow, many of the responses in this thread are absolutely saddening.

Originally posted by: brxndxn
LOL good.. Hand-picked Iraqi press kiss-asses and STILL one of them hates Bush. Every where he goes, society needs to remind him of the fuckups he brought with his presidency.

Originally posted by: amdhunter
Too bad the Iraqi bastard missed.

Originally posted by: compuwiz1
Too bad the shoe thrower missed. Bush should be smacked up against the ears with those shoes.

Originally posted by: Lemon law
somehow I can't blame those soreheads giving GWB a tiny tiny fraction of what he deserves.

Originally posted by: GroundedSailor
Good to see the Iraqis using their freedom.

Originally posted by: waggy
i do have to admit it would have been funnyf if bush got naile din the head witht it.

Originally posted by: microbial
A fitting end to the GWB administration.

Originally posted by: BoomerD
I'd have loved to see "Made in China" imprinted on his forehead...

Originally posted by: Perry404
You're absolutely correct. The guy had no right to be angered over the million dead in his country since the wars beginning.

Originally posted by: colonel
gsave a few more for Dick and dont miss

How exactly are these responses "sad"?

Corbett was enrqaged when he read those responses

Time to lock another thread due to the trollmod.

Calling out a Mod when they are not posting as a Mod is auto ban the last I checked.

How did this get posted before Corbett's post?


Anyway, I lol'd at the pathetic responses he pulled out of this thread. I also lol'd at the pathetic attempt by RedDawn to attack Corbett.

I lol'd at Corbett's inability to follow simple rules.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: manowar821

Originally posted by: Corbett
Wow, many of the responses in this thread are absolutely saddening.

Originally posted by: brxndxn
LOL good.. Hand-picked Iraqi press kiss-asses and STILL one of them hates Bush. Every where he goes, society needs to remind him of the fuckups he brought with his presidency.

Originally posted by: amdhunter
Too bad the Iraqi bastard missed.

Originally posted by: compuwiz1
Too bad the shoe thrower missed. Bush should be smacked up against the ears with those shoes.

Originally posted by: Lemon law
somehow I can't blame those soreheads giving GWB a tiny tiny fraction of what he deserves.

Originally posted by: GroundedSailor
Good to see the Iraqis using their freedom.

Originally posted by: waggy
i do have to admit it would have been funnyf if bush got naile din the head witht it.

Originally posted by: microbial
A fitting end to the GWB administration.

Originally posted by: BoomerD
I'd have loved to see "Made in China" imprinted on his forehead...

Originally posted by: Perry404
You're absolutely correct. The guy had no right to be angered over the million dead in his country since the wars beginning.

Originally posted by: colonel
gsave a few more for Dick and dont miss

How exactly are these responses "sad"?

Corbett was enrqaged when he read those responses

Time to lock another thread due to the trollmod.

Calling out a Mod when they are not posting as a Mod is auto ban the last I checked.

How did this get posted before Corbett's post?


Anyway, I lol'd at the pathetic responses he pulled out of this thread. I also lol'd at the pathetic attempt by RedDawn to attack Corbett.

Really, it was nothing to get upset over, it wasn't even mean spirited. To tell you the truth when I fist saw that pic it reminded me of Harvey when he goes into his Bushwhacko mode. I thought it was funny.