Iraq.

[techs]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200...ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_iraq

Iraq steps up security ahead of US city withdrawal

BAGHDAD ? Iraqi security forces bolstered checkpoints and banned motorcycles from the streets of Baghdad as they prepared Sunday for more violence before this week's withdrawal of U.S. combat troops from the capital and other cities and towns.

Despite the increased checks, a roadside bomb targeting a U.S. convoy in eastern Baghdad wounded six bystanders. It was unclear if anyone in the convoy was injured, police said.

A car bomb also exploded in the parking lot of a police academy in western Baghdad, killing one police officer and wounding six others, police said, speaking on condition of anonymity as they were not authorized to speak to the media.

Iraq's main Sunni political bloc joined Shiite Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki in describing the June 30 deadline for the U.S. withdrawal from urban areas as a turning point for the country.

Al-Maliki's government has declared Tuesday National Sovereignty Day and decreed a public holiday.

"June 30 is an important turning point on the civilian, security and political levels, and this is the feeling shared by all Iraqis," Salim al-Jubouri, spokesman for the Sunni Iraqi Accordance Front, said in a statement.

He also said "terrorist elements" would try to disrupt the withdrawal but added that Iraqi forces were capable of ensuring security. Although considerable progress has been made at reconciling Sunnis and Shiites, there is still a divide between the two Islamic sects that nearly brought the country to the brink of civil war in 2006-2007.



I have been following the increasing violence, and am surprised no one seems to be talking about it.

 

[TruePaige]

I really haven't seen much coverage on this in the media, Techs.

Important milestone in our Iraqi policy though.

 

[StageLeft]

Now we can see if Obama's decision was right or not to do it. He's had no positive influence there due to his short duration in office, so either Iraq is finally ready, in which case he's not shooting his load early, or it's not, in which case he is. I dearly hope people don't, should this end up being right, fudge history and pretend that he was the one who finally ended the war, though.

 

[Ns1]

heh, my friend is currently back from iraq until the the first week of july. he has a ton of stories...some good, most bad haha

he actually says things are much improved from a violence standpoint from when he first got there. the quality of life, however.....

 

[brxndxn]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Now we can see if Obama's decision was right or not to do it. He's had no positive influence there due to his short duration in office, so either Iraq is finally ready, in which case he's not shooting his load early, or it's not, in which case he is. I dearly hope people don't, should this end up being right, fudge history and pretend that he was the one who finally ended the war, though.

I have no problem with him getting the credit.. Bush gets the credit for starting the war.

Also, whether Iraq is 'ready' or not is a moot point. The 'war' as we know it is over and has been over.. The 'country building' has to be left up to the Iraqis.. They might not build exactly what we want and it might not be perfectly smooth at the start, but they're adults and they are just as capable of setting up their own country. We need to get the hell out and quit meddling.

It will be good to get everyone home.

 

[cliftonite]

Originally posted by: brxndxn

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Now we can see if Obama's decision was right or not to do it. He's had no positive influence there due to his short duration in office, so either Iraq is finally ready, in which case he's not shooting his load early, or it's not, in which case he is. I dearly hope people don't, should this end up being right, fudge history and pretend that he was the one who finally ended the war, though.

I have no problem with him getting the credit.. Bush gets the credit for starting the war.

Also, whether Iraq is 'ready' or not is a moot point. The 'war' as we know it is over and has been over.. The 'country building' has to be left up to the Iraqis.. They might not build exactly what we want and it might not be perfectly smooth at the start, but they're adults and they are just as capable of setting up their own country. We need to get the hell out and quit meddling.

It will be good to get everyone home.

Agreed, what a ridiculous waste of money and lives this war has been.

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: cliftonite

Originally posted by: brxndxn

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Now we can see if Obama's decision was right or not to do it. He's had no positive influence there due to his short duration in office, so either Iraq is finally ready, in which case he's not shooting his load early, or it's not, in which case he is. I dearly hope people don't, should this end up being right, fudge history and pretend that he was the one who finally ended the war, though.

I have no problem with him getting the credit.. Bush gets the credit for starting the war.

Also, whether Iraq is 'ready' or not is a moot point. The 'war' as we know it is over and has been over.. The 'country building' has to be left up to the Iraqis.. They might not build exactly what we want and it might not be perfectly smooth at the start, but they're adults and they are just as capable of setting up their own country. We need to get the hell out and quit meddling.

It will be good to get everyone home.

Agreed, what a ridiculous waste of money and lives this war has been.

:thumbsup:

 

[Lemon law]

That is the 64 Trillion dollar question, once the US army no longer keeps security in the cities, is the Iraqi army prepared?

It may be a red letter day for Iraq as a nation if the answer is yes, but a lot of rascals have been waiting and planning for the day when the old sheriff no longer guards the hen house.

Because there has been little political progress in Iraq, the illusion of tranquility may be far wider than it is deep. Like a marriage, it takes two to make it but only one to break it.
I do not want to be a voice of doom and gloom and would prefer to be optimistic, but in all honesty, we have to be prepared for the worst also.

 

[Fox5]

Any takers on how long until the current Iraqi government collapses or cedes significant territory to hostile interests?

 

[JSt0rm]

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: cliftonite

Originally posted by: brxndxn

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Now we can see if Obama's decision was right or not to do it. He's had no positive influence there due to his short duration in office, so either Iraq is finally ready, in which case he's not shooting his load early, or it's not, in which case he is. I dearly hope people don't, should this end up being right, fudge history and pretend that he was the one who finally ended the war, though.

I have no problem with him getting the credit.. Bush gets the credit for starting the war.

Also, whether Iraq is 'ready' or not is a moot point. The 'war' as we know it is over and has been over.. The 'country building' has to be left up to the Iraqis.. They might not build exactly what we want and it might not be perfectly smooth at the start, but they're adults and they are just as capable of setting up their own country. We need to get the hell out and quit meddling.

It will be good to get everyone home.

Agreed, what a ridiculous waste of money and lives this war has been.

:thumbsup:

qft!!!

 

[ZeGermans]

Just droppin in to say "withdrawing from cities" in some areas meant "don't move anyone and REDRAW THE GOD DAMN BORDERS"

 

[GeezerMan]

They are probably just moving the soldiers to the embassy grounds to guard the HUGE 0.44 square kilometers US embassy in Iraq

LINK

and yeah, I'm kinda sorta joking since it won't take all of the US soldiers to guard it, but it's still a very large complex.

 

[amdhunter]

Yay, now we can have all these guys back home, after they have run that country into the ground, and just made a mess of the quality of life there for centuries to come.

It's going to be a huge shock to them when they realize that they can no longer act and do as they wish when they are back home. I bet the majority of them will miss abusing their powers and either end up in jail, beating their wives, or even shot dead for messing with the wrong person in the street.

I'd rather have them stripped of their equipment, and left there for the Iraqi people to take care of them. If the people there love the troops so much, it shouldn't be a problem...right?

 

[UberNeuman]

Originally posted by: amdhunter
Yay, now we can have all these guys back home, after they have run that country into the ground, and just made a mess of the quality of life there for centuries to come.

It's going to be a huge shock to them when they realize that they can no longer act and do as they wish when they are back home. I bet the majority of them will miss abusing their powers and either end up in jail, beating their wives, or even shot dead for messing with the wrong person in the street.

I'd rather have them stripped of their equipment, and left there for the Iraqi people to take care of them. If the people there love the troops so much, it shouldn't be a problem...right?

?

 

[amdhunter]

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: amdhunter
Yay, now we can have all these guys back home, after they have run that country into the ground, and just made a mess of the quality of life there for centuries to come.

It's going to be a huge shock to them when they realize that they can no longer act and do as they wish when they are back home. I bet the majority of them will miss abusing their powers and either end up in jail, beating their wives, or even shot dead for messing with the wrong person in the street.

I'd rather have them stripped of their equipment, and left there for the Iraqi people to take care of them. If the people there love the troops so much, it shouldn't be a problem...right?

?

I am saying to let [the troops] rot there in Iraq. I don't want a bunch of douchebags coming back to the states. They ruined Iraq and broke down a people; the people should be allowed to break them back.

 

[TruePaige]

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: cliftonite

Originally posted by: brxndxn

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Now we can see if Obama's decision was right or not to do it. He's had no positive influence there due to his short duration in office, so either Iraq is finally ready, in which case he's not shooting his load early, or it's not, in which case he is. I dearly hope people don't, should this end up being right, fudge history and pretend that he was the one who finally ended the war, though.

I have no problem with him getting the credit.. Bush gets the credit for starting the war.

Also, whether Iraq is 'ready' or not is a moot point. The 'war' as we know it is over and has been over.. The 'country building' has to be left up to the Iraqis.. They might not build exactly what we want and it might not be perfectly smooth at the start, but they're adults and they are just as capable of setting up their own country. We need to get the hell out and quit meddling.

It will be good to get everyone home.

Agreed, what a ridiculous waste of money and lives this war has been.

:thumbsup:

qft!!!

:thumbsup:

 

[UberNeuman]

Originally posted by: amdhunter

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: amdhunter
Yay, now we can have all these guys back home, after they have run that country into the ground, and just made a mess of the quality of life there for centuries to come.

It's going to be a huge shock to them when they realize that they can no longer act and do as they wish when they are back home. I bet the majority of them will miss abusing their powers and either end up in jail, beating their wives, or even shot dead for messing with the wrong person in the street.

I'd rather have them stripped of their equipment, and left there for the Iraqi people to take care of them. If the people there love the troops so much, it shouldn't be a problem...right?

?

I am saying to let [the troops] rot there in Iraq. I don't want a bunch of douchebags coming back to the states. They ruined Iraq and broke down a people; the people should be allowed to break them back.

All of them? There's a fair allotment of "douchebags" in any group of people. To tag everyone that way is madness....

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: Lemon law
That is the 64 Trillion dollar question, once the US army no longer keeps security in the cities, is the Iraqi army prepared?

It may be a red letter day for Iraq as a nation if the answer is yes, but a lot of rascals have been waiting and planning for the day when the old sheriff no longer guards the hen house.

Because there has been little political progress in Iraq, the illusion of tranquility may be far wider than it is deep. Like a marriage, it takes two to make it but only one to break it.
I do not want to be a voice of doom and gloom and would prefer to be optimistic, but in all honesty, we have to be prepared for the worst also.

Does anyone honestly care???

We need to bring our troops home. That is the bottom line!!

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: amdhunter

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: amdhunter
Yay, now we can have all these guys back home, after they have run that country into the ground, and just made a mess of the quality of life there for centuries to come.

It's going to be a huge shock to them when they realize that they can no longer act and do as they wish when they are back home. I bet the majority of them will miss abusing their powers and either end up in jail, beating their wives, or even shot dead for messing with the wrong person in the street.

I'd rather have them stripped of their equipment, and left there for the Iraqi people to take care of them. If the people there love the troops so much, it shouldn't be a problem...right?

?

I am saying to let [the troops] rot there in Iraq. I don't want a bunch of douchebags coming back to the states. They ruined Iraq and broke down a people; the people should be allowed to break them back.

There is something seriously wrong with you, you should seek professional help.

 

[Skitzer]

Originally posted by: amdhunter

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: amdhunter
Yay, now we can have all these guys back home, after they have run that country into the ground, and just made a mess of the quality of life there for centuries to come.

It's going to be a huge shock to them when they realize that they can no longer act and do as they wish when they are back home. I bet the majority of them will miss abusing their powers and either end up in jail, beating their wives, or even shot dead for messing with the wrong person in the street.

I'd rather have them stripped of their equipment, and left there for the Iraqi people to take care of them. If the people there love the troops so much, it shouldn't be a problem...right?

?

I am saying to let [the troops] rot there in Iraq. I don't want a bunch of douchebags coming back to the states. They ruined Iraq and broke down a people; the people should be allowed to break them back.

Unbelievable

 

[Red Irish]

 

[Red Irish]

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: cliftonite

Originally posted by: brxndxn

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Now we can see if Obama's decision was right or not to do it. He's had no positive influence there due to his short duration in office, so either Iraq is finally ready, in which case he's not shooting his load early, or it's not, in which case he is. I dearly hope people don't, should this end up being right, fudge history and pretend that he was the one who finally ended the war, though.

I have no problem with him getting the credit.. Bush gets the credit for starting the war.

Also, whether Iraq is 'ready' or not is a moot point. The 'war' as we know it is over and has been over.. The 'country building' has to be left up to the Iraqis.. They might not build exactly what we want and it might not be perfectly smooth at the start, but they're adults and they are just as capable of setting up their own country. We need to get the hell out and quit meddling.

It will be good to get everyone home.

Agreed, what a ridiculous waste of money and lives this war has been.

:thumbsup:

qft!!!

:thumbsup:

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: amdhunter

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: amdhunter
Yay, now we can have all these guys back home, after they have run that country into the ground, and just made a mess of the quality of life there for centuries to come.

It's going to be a huge shock to them when they realize that they can no longer act and do as they wish when they are back home. I bet the majority of them will miss abusing their powers and either end up in jail, beating their wives, or even shot dead for messing with the wrong person in the street.

I'd rather have them stripped of their equipment, and left there for the Iraqi people to take care of them. If the people there love the troops so much, it shouldn't be a problem...right?

?

I am saying to let [the troops] rot there in Iraq. I don't want a bunch of douchebags coming back to the states. They ruined Iraq and broke down a people; the people should be allowed to break them back.

JFC are you kidding me? Let's see, your profile says NYC and this was posted @ 1:24am on the east coast... I wonder if you're going to remember posting this in the morning?

Hate the war - not the brave men and women who were sent there to do their job.

 

[dphantom]

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: amdhunter

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: amdhunter
Yay, now we can have all these guys back home, after they have run that country into the ground, and just made a mess of the quality of life there for centuries to come.

It's going to be a huge shock to them when they realize that they can no longer act and do as they wish when they are back home. I bet the majority of them will miss abusing their powers and either end up in jail, beating their wives, or even shot dead for messing with the wrong person in the street.

I'd rather have them stripped of their equipment, and left there for the Iraqi people to take care of them. If the people there love the troops so much, it shouldn't be a problem...right?

?

I am saying to let [the troops] rot there in Iraq. I don't want a bunch of douchebags coming back to the states. They ruined Iraq and broke down a people; the people should be allowed to break them back.

JFC are you kidding me? Let's see, your profile says NYC and this was posted @ 1:24am on the east coast... I wonder if you're going to remember posting this in the morning?

Hate the war - not the brave men and women who were sent there to do their job.

Thank you from a veteran.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: dphantom

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: amdhunter

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: amdhunter
Yay, now we can have all these guys back home, after they have run that country into the ground, and just made a mess of the quality of life there for centuries to come.

It's going to be a huge shock to them when they realize that they can no longer act and do as they wish when they are back home. I bet the majority of them will miss abusing their powers and either end up in jail, beating their wives, or even shot dead for messing with the wrong person in the street.

I'd rather have them stripped of their equipment, and left there for the Iraqi people to take care of them. If the people there love the troops so much, it shouldn't be a problem...right?

?

I am saying to let [the troops] rot there in Iraq. I don't want a bunch of douchebags coming back to the states. They ruined Iraq and broke down a people; the people should be allowed to break them back.

JFC are you kidding me? Let's see, your profile says NYC and this was posted @ 1:24am on the east coast... I wonder if you're going to remember posting this in the morning?

Hate the war - not the brave men and women who were sent there to do their job.

Thank you from a veteran.

You're welcome and thank you from this appreciative non-veteran.