Iraq: The Unseen War

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sandorski

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: tommywishbone
... "The fact is that these people could have either been tortured and killed under Saddam or they could have been casualties from the current war. If I was an Iraqi I would choose the latter because at least then I had some hope that life might not continue to suck."...

This must be a joke.... right? You actually pretend to speak for the Iraqis? Their country is burning. Their children die in the street everyday. We rape their people, we burn their towns, we run wild without any measure of decency, but you take the sanctamonious position of determining which death is best for them. Madness. Madness.

And I put it to you sir; the time for intellectual content, the time for debate, was THREE years ago, BEFORE we decided that mass murder & carnage was correct path. Perhaps we have gotten to the point where reason, relevance & intellect are no longer avenues of choice. When your house is on fire and half the family is dead, you don't sit down and review the best options; you scream and run! It's time to run.
It appears to me he's speaking for himself "If" he were an Iraqi.

And, truthfully, we get more lectures from the left about how terrible it is in Iraq, how the Iraqi people are suffering, what they want from government and life; so the left seems to speak as a proxy for Iraqis quite often. During their diatribes they seem to forget that the Iraqis have spoken themselves already and are glad Saddam is gone, have hope for a better future, and don't want a religious government. But you wouldn't know that by listening to the anti-war crew in the US because they so often neglect to mention those little niggling facts.

Many of them speak everyday by sending young Americans home in body bags and ambulances. It's not a clear cut thing.
 
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Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: tommywishbone
... "The fact is that these people could have either been tortured and killed under Saddam or they could have been casualties from the current war. If I was an Iraqi I would choose the latter because at least then I had some hope that life might not continue to suck."...

This must be a joke.... right? You actually pretend to speak for the Iraqis? Their country is burning. Their children die in the street everyday. We rape their people, we burn their towns, we run wild without any measure of decency, but you take the sanctamonious position of determining which death is best for them. Madness. Madness.

And I put it to you sir; the time for intellectual content, the time for debate, was THREE years ago, BEFORE we decided that mass murder & carnage was correct path. Perhaps we have gotten to the point where reason, relevance & intellect are no longer avenues of choice. When your house is on fire and half the family is dead, you don't sit down and review the best options; you scream and run! It's time to run.
It appears to me he's speaking for himself "If" he were an Iraqi.

And, truthfully, we get more lectures from the left about how terrible it is in Iraq, how the Iraqi people are suffering, what they want from government and life; so the left seems to speak as a proxy for Iraqis quite often. During their diatribes they seem to forget that the Iraqis have spoken themselves already and are glad Saddam is gone, have hope for a better future, and don't want a religious government. But you wouldn't know that by listening to the anti-war crew in the US because they so often neglect to mention those little niggling facts.

Many of them speak everyday by sending young Americans home in body bags and ambulances. It's not a clear cut thing.
Many more speak by joining the Iraqi police or military and sending their own, as well as foreign jihadists, to prison or home in body bags as well. So I agree. It's not clear cut at all.

 

BBond

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: sandorski


Many of them speak everyday by sending young Americans home in body bags and ambulances. It's not a clear cut thing.
Many more speak by joining the Iraqi police or military and sending their own, as well as foreign jihadists, to prison or home in body bags as well. So I agree. It's not clear cut at all.

The question of who is sending whom home in body bags is still being decided. A brazen attack in the capitol of Iraq after over two years and five months of U.S. occupation should give even completely brainwashed Bushies like the chicken pause.

The Iraqi security forces are about as competent at defending Iraq as the chicken is about recognizing the truth.

Attacks erupt in Iraq as vote nears

At least 30 killed; assembly to meet on draft compact

By Borzou Daragahi and Raheem Salman, Los Angeles Times | August 25, 2005

BAGHDAD -- Clashes erupted yesterday between followers of a radical Shi'ite cleric and his opponents in the holy city of Najaf, leaving at least six dead and scores injured during a violent day throughout Iraq ahead of a National Assembly vote on a new constitution.

In the capital, as many as 40 gunmen and suicide bombers staged a brazen daylight attack on police that left at least 15 dead and 56 injured.

Insurgents launched three attacks in and around the city of Baqubah that left at least eight Iraqis dead, and raided the home of a police commando in Samarra, publicly executing one of his relatives before blowing up the house.

The violence occurred as sectarian and political tensions simmered on the eve of today's vote in the transitional National Assembly on the draft constitution. Although the document is believed to have the support of a majority of the legislators, its call for a degree of federalism and other provisions have drawn strong opposition from some Iraqis.

A US military official in Baghdad, speaking yesterday on condition of anonymity, said he anticipated more violence today as the assembly meets.

''We believe that the enemy is continuing to try to influence the drafting of the constitution and is still intending to conduct some larger scale operation in Baghdad and elsewhere associated with the release," he told reporters.

Police closed off roads and imposed a curfew on Najaf, a shrine city that has been quiet since clashes between US troops and members of the Mahdi Army, a militia loyal to radical cleric Moqtada al-Sadr, who has been critical of the new constitution.

Sadr's followers charged that they were victims of an unprovoked attack by rioters who tried to burn down the cleric's Najaf office. Witnesses said demonstrators were protesting an increase in political activity in and around the old city, which many Najaf residents and clergy consider holy.

Sadr's followers blamed a rival Shi'ite faction for the clashes and announced they would pull their bloc of at least 20 lawmakers and three ministers out of government. They said they have mobilized their militia, whose gun battles with US troops a year ago traumatized the nation.

Sadr supporters are hungry for revenge against the Supreme Council of the Islamic Republic of Iraq, the rival political party of Abdelaziz Hakim, which controls the Interior Ministry, said Fatah Sheik, a leader of Sadr's parliamentary bloc.

Shopkeepers and bystanders were among those killed and injured during the assault on police in the Jamiyaa neighborhood of Baghdad. The attackers, believed to be Sunni Arab insurgents, were armed with car bombs, rockets, and machine guns, police said.

The apparent target, a visiting police chief from the city of Samarra, survived. Iraqi police and soldiers, as well as US forces, rushed into the area to head off further attacks. Most of the gunmen escaped, but two suspects carrying rocket-propelled grenade launchers were arrested, a police official said.

Also in the capital, Iraq's deputy justice minister Osho Ibrahim narrowly escaped an assassination attempt, the second directed at him in two days.
 
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Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: sandorski


Many of them speak everyday by sending young Americans home in body bags and ambulances. It's not a clear cut thing.
Many more speak by joining the Iraqi police or military and sending their own, as well as foreign jihadists, to prison or home in body bags as well. So I agree. It's not clear cut at all.

The question of who is sending whom home in body bags is still being decided. A brazen attack in the capitol of Iraq after over two years and five months of U.S. occupation should give even completely brainwashed Bushies like the chicken pause.

The Iraqi security forces are about as competent at defending Iraq as the chicken is about recognizing the truth.

Attacks erupt in Iraq as vote nears

At least 30 killed; assembly to meet on draft compact

By Borzou Daragahi and Raheem Salman, Los Angeles Times | August 25, 2005

BAGHDAD -- Clashes erupted yesterday between followers of a radical Shi'ite cleric and his opponents in the holy city of Najaf, leaving at least six dead and scores injured during a violent day throughout Iraq ahead of a National Assembly vote on a new constitution.

In the capital, as many as 40 gunmen and suicide bombers staged a brazen daylight attack on police that left at least 15 dead and 56 injured.

Insurgents launched three attacks in and around the city of Baqubah that left at least eight Iraqis dead, and raided the home of a police commando in Samarra, publicly executing one of his relatives before blowing up the house.

The violence occurred as sectarian and political tensions simmered on the eve of today's vote in the transitional National Assembly on the draft constitution. Although the document is believed to have the support of a majority of the legislators, its call for a degree of federalism and other provisions have drawn strong opposition from some Iraqis.

A US military official in Baghdad, speaking yesterday on condition of anonymity, said he anticipated more violence today as the assembly meets.

''We believe that the enemy is continuing to try to influence the drafting of the constitution and is still intending to conduct some larger scale operation in Baghdad and elsewhere associated with the release," he told reporters.

Police closed off roads and imposed a curfew on Najaf, a shrine city that has been quiet since clashes between US troops and members of the Mahdi Army, a militia loyal to radical cleric Moqtada al-Sadr, who has been critical of the new constitution.

Sadr's followers charged that they were victims of an unprovoked attack by rioters who tried to burn down the cleric's Najaf office. Witnesses said demonstrators were protesting an increase in political activity in and around the old city, which many Najaf residents and clergy consider holy.

Sadr's followers blamed a rival Shi'ite faction for the clashes and announced they would pull their bloc of at least 20 lawmakers and three ministers out of government. They said they have mobilized their militia, whose gun battles with US troops a year ago traumatized the nation.

Sadr supporters are hungry for revenge against the Supreme Council of the Islamic Republic of Iraq, the rival political party of Abdelaziz Hakim, which controls the Interior Ministry, said Fatah Sheik, a leader of Sadr's parliamentary bloc.

Shopkeepers and bystanders were among those killed and injured during the assault on police in the Jamiyaa neighborhood of Baghdad. The attackers, believed to be Sunni Arab insurgents, were armed with car bombs, rockets, and machine guns, police said.

The apparent target, a visiting police chief from the city of Samarra, survived. Iraqi police and soldiers, as well as US forces, rushed into the area to head off further attacks. Most of the gunmen escaped, but two suspects carrying rocket-propelled grenade launchers were arrested, a police official said.

Also in the capital, Iraq's deputy justice minister Osho Ibrahim narrowly escaped an assassination attempt, the second directed at him in two days.
BBond's answer to everything - Trot out a news article about the actions of the terrorists.

I notice you never post articles that specifically deal with terrorists being captured or killed, you patriot. :roll:
 

BBond

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

BBond's answer to everything - Trot out a news article about the actions of the terrorists.

I notice you never post articles that specifically deal with terrorists being captured or killed, you patriot. :roll:

Terrorists are walking Earth this very day because the people that YOU worship have FAILED in their duty and their promise to bring them to justice and you have the nerve to ridicule me?

You are a joke without a punch line you brainwashed neocon psycho.
 

BBond

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PS Those terrorists are doing better than ever thanks to your GOD BUSH and his misguided, illplanned, totally counterfeit unprovoked attack against Iraq.
 

BBond

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

BBond's answer to everything - Trot out a news article about the actions of the terrorists.

I notice you never post articles that specifically deal with terrorists being captured or killed, you patriot. :roll:

Not to mention, you a$$hat, that "trotting out a news article about the actions of the terrorists" just happens to point out some facts that morons like you and Bush don't want to face.

After over two years and five months into this unnecessary invasion the terrorists are stronger than ever and operating almost at will. And ALL due to Bush's lies.

Who is the real patriot, chicken? You failures???

LMFAO.
 
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Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

BBond's answer to everything - Trot out a news article about the actions of the terrorists.

I notice you never post articles that specifically deal with terrorists being captured or killed, you patriot. :roll:

Terrorists are walking Earth this very day because the people that YOU worship have FAILED in their duty and their promise to bring them to justice and you have the nerve to ridicule me?

You are a joke without a punch line you brainwashed neocon psycho.
Thanks for providing yet another fine example of why the left is further marginalizing itself these days.

/golf clap
 

BBond

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Oct 3, 2004
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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

BBond's answer to everything - Trot out a news article about the actions of the terrorists.

I notice you never post articles that specifically deal with terrorists being captured or killed, you patriot. :roll:

Terrorists are walking Earth this very day because the people that YOU worship have FAILED in their duty and their promise to bring them to justice and you have the nerve to ridicule me?

You are a joke without a punch line you brainwashed neocon psycho.
Thanks for providing yet another fine example of why the left is further marginalizing itself these days.

/golf clap

You are a complete fool. You've been totally discredited here and all you can come up with are stupid, childish retorts.

You're not worth wasting the time to type further replies.

 

AnyMal

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Nov 21, 2001
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Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

BBond's answer to everything - Trot out a news article about the actions of the terrorists.

I notice you never post articles that specifically deal with terrorists being captured or killed, you patriot. :roll:

Not to mention, you a$$hat, that "trotting out a news article about the actions of the terrorists" just happens to point out some facts that morons like you and Bush don't want to face.

After over two years and five months into this unnecessary invasion the terrorists are stronger than ever and operating almost at will. And ALL due to Bush's lies.

Who is the real patriot, chicken? You failures???

LMFAO.

Man, it's only 10:30 AM and BBond is already drunk :laugh:
 

BBond

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Oct 3, 2004
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Originally posted by: AnyMal
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

BBond's answer to everything - Trot out a news article about the actions of the terrorists.

I notice you never post articles that specifically deal with terrorists being captured or killed, you patriot. :roll:

Not to mention, you a$$hat, that "trotting out a news article about the actions of the terrorists" just happens to point out some facts that morons like you and Bush don't want to face.

After over two years and five months into this unnecessary invasion the terrorists are stronger than ever and operating almost at will. And ALL due to Bush's lies.

Who is the real patriot, chicken? You failures???

LMFAO.

Man, it's only 10:30 AM and BBond is already drunk :laugh:

Dude, if I'm drunk, you people are tripping.

 

BBond

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Oct 3, 2004
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You have nothing, no facts, no history, and no truth so you come out, just like the chicken, with bullsh!t.

Why don't you answer the question? After over two years and five months, Iraq is in worse shape then before Bush lied and invaded. What do you have to say for yourself on that subject, anymal?
 
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Originally posted by: AnyMal
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

BBond's answer to everything - Trot out a news article about the actions of the terrorists.

I notice you never post articles that specifically deal with terrorists being captured or killed, you patriot. :roll:

Not to mention, you a$$hat, that "trotting out a news article about the actions of the terrorists" just happens to point out some facts that morons like you and Bush don't want to face.

After over two years and five months into this unnecessary invasion the terrorists are stronger than ever and operating almost at will. And ALL due to Bush's lies.

Who is the real patriot, chicken? You failures???

LMFAO.

Man, it's only 10:30 AM and BBond is already drunk :laugh:
LOL. You'd think so, wouldn't you? If he's not, it's pretty scary that the boy just can't seem to control himself.
 

AnyMal

Lifer
Nov 21, 2001
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Originally posted by: BBond
You have nothing, no facts, no history, and no truth so you come out, just like the chicken, with bullsh!t.

Why don't you answer the question? After over two years and five months, Iraq is in worse shape then before Bush lied and invaded. What do you have to say for yourself on that subject, anymal?

What do you know about Iraq before the invasion? What do you know about the killings that went on for years and took lives of far more Iraqis then post-war? What do you know about the most brutal dictatorship next only to the likes of Stalin and Hitler that Iraqi people had suffered from for 30 years? Are you aware of any of this? Or are you simply using this war as an outlet for your pent-up hatred of anything that Repubs touch? What have you and your liberal crybaby friends have done to make the lives of Iraqis better? Nothing at all. Not a damn thing. Why? Because you don't care.
 

imported_Pedro69

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: sandorski


Many of them speak everyday by sending young Americans home in body bags and ambulances. It's not a clear cut thing.
Many more speak by joining the Iraqi police or military and sending their own, as well as foreign jihadists, to prison or home in body bags as well. So I agree. It's not clear cut at all.

The question of who is sending whom home in body bags is still being decided. A brazen attack in the capitol of Iraq after over two years and five months of U.S. occupation should give even completely brainwashed Bushies like the chicken pause.

The Iraqi security forces are about as competent at defending Iraq as the chicken is about recognizing the truth.

Attacks erupt in Iraq as vote nears

At least 30 killed; assembly to meet on draft compact

By Borzou Daragahi and Raheem Salman, Los Angeles Times | August 25, 2005

BAGHDAD -- Clashes erupted yesterday between followers of a radical Shi'ite cleric and his opponents in the holy city of Najaf, leaving at least six dead and scores injured during a violent day throughout Iraq ahead of a National Assembly vote on a new constitution.

In the capital, as many as 40 gunmen and suicide bombers staged a brazen daylight attack on police that left at least 15 dead and 56 injured.

Insurgents launched three attacks in and around the city of Baqubah that left at least eight Iraqis dead, and raided the home of a police commando in Samarra, publicly executing one of his relatives before blowing up the house.

The violence occurred as sectarian and political tensions simmered on the eve of today's vote in the transitional National Assembly on the draft constitution. Although the document is believed to have the support of a majority of the legislators, its call for a degree of federalism and other provisions have drawn strong opposition from some Iraqis.

A US military official in Baghdad, speaking yesterday on condition of anonymity, said he anticipated more violence today as the assembly meets.

''We believe that the enemy is continuing to try to influence the drafting of the constitution and is still intending to conduct some larger scale operation in Baghdad and elsewhere associated with the release," he told reporters.

Police closed off roads and imposed a curfew on Najaf, a shrine city that has been quiet since clashes between US troops and members of the Mahdi Army, a militia loyal to radical cleric Moqtada al-Sadr, who has been critical of the new constitution.

Sadr's followers charged that they were victims of an unprovoked attack by rioters who tried to burn down the cleric's Najaf office. Witnesses said demonstrators were protesting an increase in political activity in and around the old city, which many Najaf residents and clergy consider holy.

Sadr's followers blamed a rival Shi'ite faction for the clashes and announced they would pull their bloc of at least 20 lawmakers and three ministers out of government. They said they have mobilized their militia, whose gun battles with US troops a year ago traumatized the nation.

Sadr supporters are hungry for revenge against the Supreme Council of the Islamic Republic of Iraq, the rival political party of Abdelaziz Hakim, which controls the Interior Ministry, said Fatah Sheik, a leader of Sadr's parliamentary bloc.

Shopkeepers and bystanders were among those killed and injured during the assault on police in the Jamiyaa neighborhood of Baghdad. The attackers, believed to be Sunni Arab insurgents, were armed with car bombs, rockets, and machine guns, police said.

The apparent target, a visiting police chief from the city of Samarra, survived. Iraqi police and soldiers, as well as US forces, rushed into the area to head off further attacks. Most of the gunmen escaped, but two suspects carrying rocket-propelled grenade launchers were arrested, a police official said.

Also in the capital, Iraq's deputy justice minister Osho Ibrahim narrowly escaped an assassination attempt, the second directed at him in two days.
BBond's answer to everything - Trot out a news article about the actions of the terrorists.

I notice you never post articles that specifically deal with terrorists being captured or killed, you patriot. :roll:

Yet you fail to provide anything that would contradict his argument.
 
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Originally posted by: AnyMal
Originally posted by: BBond
You have nothing, no facts, no history, and no truth so you come out, just like the chicken, with bullsh!t.

Why don't you answer the question? After over two years and five months, Iraq is in worse shape then before Bush lied and invaded. What do you have to say for yourself on that subject, anymal?

What do you know about Iraq before the invasion? What do you know about the killings that went on for years and took lives of far more Iraqis then post-war? What do you know about the most brutal dictatorship next only to the likes of Stalin and Hitler that Iraqi people had suffered from for 30 years? Are you aware of any of this? Or are you simply using this war as an outlet for your pent-up hatred of anything that Repubs touch? What have you and your liberal crybaby friends have done to make the lives of Iraqis better? Nothing at all. Not a damn thing. Why? Because you don't care.

Exactly. The Iraqis, dead or alive, are little more than bludgeons for the left to beat Bush over the head with. Other than that they don't give a crap about them. A few in here even freely admit that they don't care about Iraqis. Many libs use dead Iraqis in a similar fashion to how Sheehan uses her dead son. Crocodile tears apparently flow freely from the left.
 

imported_Pedro69

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: AnyMal
Originally posted by: BBond
You have nothing, no facts, no history, and no truth so you come out, just like the chicken, with bullsh!t.

Why don't you answer the question? After over two years and five months, Iraq is in worse shape then before Bush lied and invaded. What do you have to say for yourself on that subject, anymal?

What do you know about Iraq before the invasion? What do you know about the killings that went on for years and took lives of far more Iraqis then post-war? What do you know about the most brutal dictatorship next only to the likes of Stalin and Hitler that Iraqi people had suffered from for 30 years? Are you aware of any of this? Or are you simply using this war as an outlet for your pent-up hatred of anything that Repubs touch? What have you and your liberal crybaby friends have done to make the lives of Iraqis better? Nothing at all. Not a damn thing. Why? Because you don't care.

Exactly. The Iraqis, dead or alive, are little more than bludgeons for the left to beat Bush over the head with. Other than that they don't give a crap about them. A few in here even freely admit that they don't care about Iraqis. Many libs use dead Iraqis in a similar fashion to how Sheehan uses her dead son. Crocodile tears apparently flow freely from the left.
Yeah right as if you two cared about Iraq before it became fashionable for your agenda.
 
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Originally posted by: Pedro69
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: sandorski


Many of them speak everyday by sending young Americans home in body bags and ambulances. It's not a clear cut thing.
Many more speak by joining the Iraqi police or military and sending their own, as well as foreign jihadists, to prison or home in body bags as well. So I agree. It's not clear cut at all.

The question of who is sending whom home in body bags is still being decided. A brazen attack in the capitol of Iraq after over two years and five months of U.S. occupation should give even completely brainwashed Bushies like the chicken pause.

The Iraqi security forces are about as competent at defending Iraq as the chicken is about recognizing the truth.

Attacks erupt in Iraq as vote nears

At least 30 killed; assembly to meet on draft compact

By Borzou Daragahi and Raheem Salman, Los Angeles Times | August 25, 2005

BAGHDAD -- Clashes erupted yesterday between followers of a radical Shi'ite cleric and his opponents in the holy city of Najaf, leaving at least six dead and scores injured during a violent day throughout Iraq ahead of a National Assembly vote on a new constitution.

In the capital, as many as 40 gunmen and suicide bombers staged a brazen daylight attack on police that left at least 15 dead and 56 injured.

Insurgents launched three attacks in and around the city of Baqubah that left at least eight Iraqis dead, and raided the home of a police commando in Samarra, publicly executing one of his relatives before blowing up the house.

The violence occurred as sectarian and political tensions simmered on the eve of today's vote in the transitional National Assembly on the draft constitution. Although the document is believed to have the support of a majority of the legislators, its call for a degree of federalism and other provisions have drawn strong opposition from some Iraqis.

A US military official in Baghdad, speaking yesterday on condition of anonymity, said he anticipated more violence today as the assembly meets.

''We believe that the enemy is continuing to try to influence the drafting of the constitution and is still intending to conduct some larger scale operation in Baghdad and elsewhere associated with the release," he told reporters.

Police closed off roads and imposed a curfew on Najaf, a shrine city that has been quiet since clashes between US troops and members of the Mahdi Army, a militia loyal to radical cleric Moqtada al-Sadr, who has been critical of the new constitution.

Sadr's followers charged that they were victims of an unprovoked attack by rioters who tried to burn down the cleric's Najaf office. Witnesses said demonstrators were protesting an increase in political activity in and around the old city, which many Najaf residents and clergy consider holy.

Sadr's followers blamed a rival Shi'ite faction for the clashes and announced they would pull their bloc of at least 20 lawmakers and three ministers out of government. They said they have mobilized their militia, whose gun battles with US troops a year ago traumatized the nation.

Sadr supporters are hungry for revenge against the Supreme Council of the Islamic Republic of Iraq, the rival political party of Abdelaziz Hakim, which controls the Interior Ministry, said Fatah Sheik, a leader of Sadr's parliamentary bloc.

Shopkeepers and bystanders were among those killed and injured during the assault on police in the Jamiyaa neighborhood of Baghdad. The attackers, believed to be Sunni Arab insurgents, were armed with car bombs, rockets, and machine guns, police said.

The apparent target, a visiting police chief from the city of Samarra, survived. Iraqi police and soldiers, as well as US forces, rushed into the area to head off further attacks. Most of the gunmen escaped, but two suspects carrying rocket-propelled grenade launchers were arrested, a police official said.

Also in the capital, Iraq's deputy justice minister Osho Ibrahim narrowly escaped an assassination attempt, the second directed at him in two days.
BBond's answer to everything - Trot out a news article about the actions of the terrorists.

I notice you never post articles that specifically deal with terrorists being captured or killed, you patriot. :roll:

Yet you fail to provide anything that would contradict his argument.
His posts don't generally consist of anything besides proving his extreme and rabid hate of Bush. I don't consider that an argument.
 

imported_Pedro69

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: Pedro69
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: sandorski


Many of them speak everyday by sending young Americans home in body bags and ambulances. It's not a clear cut thing.
Many more speak by joining the Iraqi police or military and sending their own, as well as foreign jihadists, to prison or home in body bags as well. So I agree. It's not clear cut at all.

The question of who is sending whom home in body bags is still being decided. A brazen attack in the capitol of Iraq after over two years and five months of U.S. occupation should give even completely brainwashed Bushies like the chicken pause.

The Iraqi security forces are about as competent at defending Iraq as the chicken is about recognizing the truth.

Attacks erupt in Iraq as vote nears

At least 30 killed; assembly to meet on draft compact

By Borzou Daragahi and Raheem Salman, Los Angeles Times | August 25, 2005

BAGHDAD -- Clashes erupted yesterday between followers of a radical Shi'ite cleric and his opponents in the holy city of Najaf, leaving at least six dead and scores injured during a violent day throughout Iraq ahead of a National Assembly vote on a new constitution.

In the capital, as many as 40 gunmen and suicide bombers staged a brazen daylight attack on police that left at least 15 dead and 56 injured.

Insurgents launched three attacks in and around the city of Baqubah that left at least eight Iraqis dead, and raided the home of a police commando in Samarra, publicly executing one of his relatives before blowing up the house.

The violence occurred as sectarian and political tensions simmered on the eve of today's vote in the transitional National Assembly on the draft constitution. Although the document is believed to have the support of a majority of the legislators, its call for a degree of federalism and other provisions have drawn strong opposition from some Iraqis.

A US military official in Baghdad, speaking yesterday on condition of anonymity, said he anticipated more violence today as the assembly meets.

''We believe that the enemy is continuing to try to influence the drafting of the constitution and is still intending to conduct some larger scale operation in Baghdad and elsewhere associated with the release," he told reporters.

Police closed off roads and imposed a curfew on Najaf, a shrine city that has been quiet since clashes between US troops and members of the Mahdi Army, a militia loyal to radical cleric Moqtada al-Sadr, who has been critical of the new constitution.

Sadr's followers charged that they were victims of an unprovoked attack by rioters who tried to burn down the cleric's Najaf office. Witnesses said demonstrators were protesting an increase in political activity in and around the old city, which many Najaf residents and clergy consider holy.

Sadr's followers blamed a rival Shi'ite faction for the clashes and announced they would pull their bloc of at least 20 lawmakers and three ministers out of government. They said they have mobilized their militia, whose gun battles with US troops a year ago traumatized the nation.

Sadr supporters are hungry for revenge against the Supreme Council of the Islamic Republic of Iraq, the rival political party of Abdelaziz Hakim, which controls the Interior Ministry, said Fatah Sheik, a leader of Sadr's parliamentary bloc.

Shopkeepers and bystanders were among those killed and injured during the assault on police in the Jamiyaa neighborhood of Baghdad. The attackers, believed to be Sunni Arab insurgents, were armed with car bombs, rockets, and machine guns, police said.

The apparent target, a visiting police chief from the city of Samarra, survived. Iraqi police and soldiers, as well as US forces, rushed into the area to head off further attacks. Most of the gunmen escaped, but two suspects carrying rocket-propelled grenade launchers were arrested, a police official said.

Also in the capital, Iraq's deputy justice minister Osho Ibrahim narrowly escaped an assassination attempt, the second directed at him in two days.
BBond's answer to everything - Trot out a news article about the actions of the terrorists.

I notice you never post articles that specifically deal with terrorists being captured or killed, you patriot. :roll:

Yet you fail to provide anything that would contradict his argument.
My posts don't generally consist of anything besides proving my extreme and rabid hate of liberals. I don't have an argument.

Fixed for you

 

bamacre

Lifer
Jul 1, 2004
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Originally posted by: Pedro69
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: Pedro69
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: sandorski


Many of them speak everyday by sending young Americans home in body bags and ambulances. It's not a clear cut thing.
Many more speak by joining the Iraqi police or military and sending their own, as well as foreign jihadists, to prison or home in body bags as well. So I agree. It's not clear cut at all.

The question of who is sending whom home in body bags is still being decided. A brazen attack in the capitol of Iraq after over two years and five months of U.S. occupation should give even completely brainwashed Bushies like the chicken pause.

The Iraqi security forces are about as competent at defending Iraq as the chicken is about recognizing the truth.

Attacks erupt in Iraq as vote nears

At least 30 killed; assembly to meet on draft compact

By Borzou Daragahi and Raheem Salman, Los Angeles Times | August 25, 2005

BAGHDAD -- Clashes erupted yesterday between followers of a radical Shi'ite cleric and his opponents in the holy city of Najaf, leaving at least six dead and scores injured during a violent day throughout Iraq ahead of a National Assembly vote on a new constitution.

In the capital, as many as 40 gunmen and suicide bombers staged a brazen daylight attack on police that left at least 15 dead and 56 injured.

Insurgents launched three attacks in and around the city of Baqubah that left at least eight Iraqis dead, and raided the home of a police commando in Samarra, publicly executing one of his relatives before blowing up the house.

The violence occurred as sectarian and political tensions simmered on the eve of today's vote in the transitional National Assembly on the draft constitution. Although the document is believed to have the support of a majority of the legislators, its call for a degree of federalism and other provisions have drawn strong opposition from some Iraqis.

A US military official in Baghdad, speaking yesterday on condition of anonymity, said he anticipated more violence today as the assembly meets.

''We believe that the enemy is continuing to try to influence the drafting of the constitution and is still intending to conduct some larger scale operation in Baghdad and elsewhere associated with the release," he told reporters.

Police closed off roads and imposed a curfew on Najaf, a shrine city that has been quiet since clashes between US troops and members of the Mahdi Army, a militia loyal to radical cleric Moqtada al-Sadr, who has been critical of the new constitution.

Sadr's followers charged that they were victims of an unprovoked attack by rioters who tried to burn down the cleric's Najaf office. Witnesses said demonstrators were protesting an increase in political activity in and around the old city, which many Najaf residents and clergy consider holy.

Sadr's followers blamed a rival Shi'ite faction for the clashes and announced they would pull their bloc of at least 20 lawmakers and three ministers out of government. They said they have mobilized their militia, whose gun battles with US troops a year ago traumatized the nation.

Sadr supporters are hungry for revenge against the Supreme Council of the Islamic Republic of Iraq, the rival political party of Abdelaziz Hakim, which controls the Interior Ministry, said Fatah Sheik, a leader of Sadr's parliamentary bloc.

Shopkeepers and bystanders were among those killed and injured during the assault on police in the Jamiyaa neighborhood of Baghdad. The attackers, believed to be Sunni Arab insurgents, were armed with car bombs, rockets, and machine guns, police said.

The apparent target, a visiting police chief from the city of Samarra, survived. Iraqi police and soldiers, as well as US forces, rushed into the area to head off further attacks. Most of the gunmen escaped, but two suspects carrying rocket-propelled grenade launchers were arrested, a police official said.

Also in the capital, Iraq's deputy justice minister Osho Ibrahim narrowly escaped an assassination attempt, the second directed at him in two days.
BBond's answer to everything - Trot out a news article about the actions of the terrorists.

I notice you never post articles that specifically deal with terrorists being captured or killed, you patriot. :roll:

Yet you fail to provide anything that would contradict his argument.
My posts don't generally consist of anything besides proving my extreme and rabid hate of liberals. I don't have an argument.

Fixed for you

That's simply not true. While I don't agree all the time with TLC, he provides much more to this board than many.
 

cKGunslinger

Lifer
Nov 29, 1999
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Originally posted by: Pedro69

Fixed for you
Say what you want, but only one poster in this thread immediately jumped aboard the childish namecalling (asshat, psycho, joke, moron, etc) bandwagon.

Could it be that one returned banned member that contributes nothing but mindless hate-speech in every single thread, yet for some inexplicable reason, is tolerated to remain here? Hmm..
 

AnyMal

Lifer
Nov 21, 2001
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Originally posted by: Pedro69
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: Pedro69
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: sandorski


Many of them speak everyday by sending young Americans home in body bags and ambulances. It's not a clear cut thing.
Many more speak by joining the Iraqi police or military and sending their own, as well as foreign jihadists, to prison or home in body bags as well. So I agree. It's not clear cut at all.

The question of who is sending whom home in body bags is still being decided. A brazen attack in the capitol of Iraq after over two years and five months of U.S. occupation should give even completely brainwashed Bushies like the chicken pause.

The Iraqi security forces are about as competent at defending Iraq as the chicken is about recognizing the truth.

Attacks erupt in Iraq as vote nears

At least 30 killed; assembly to meet on draft compact

By Borzou Daragahi and Raheem Salman, Los Angeles Times | August 25, 2005

BAGHDAD -- Clashes erupted yesterday between followers of a radical Shi'ite cleric and his opponents in the holy city of Najaf, leaving at least six dead and scores injured during a violent day throughout Iraq ahead of a National Assembly vote on a new constitution.

In the capital, as many as 40 gunmen and suicide bombers staged a brazen daylight attack on police that left at least 15 dead and 56 injured.

Insurgents launched three attacks in and around the city of Baqubah that left at least eight Iraqis dead, and raided the home of a police commando in Samarra, publicly executing one of his relatives before blowing up the house.

The violence occurred as sectarian and political tensions simmered on the eve of today's vote in the transitional National Assembly on the draft constitution. Although the document is believed to have the support of a majority of the legislators, its call for a degree of federalism and other provisions have drawn strong opposition from some Iraqis.

A US military official in Baghdad, speaking yesterday on condition of anonymity, said he anticipated more violence today as the assembly meets.

''We believe that the enemy is continuing to try to influence the drafting of the constitution and is still intending to conduct some larger scale operation in Baghdad and elsewhere associated with the release," he told reporters.

Police closed off roads and imposed a curfew on Najaf, a shrine city that has been quiet since clashes between US troops and members of the Mahdi Army, a militia loyal to radical cleric Moqtada al-Sadr, who has been critical of the new constitution.

Sadr's followers charged that they were victims of an unprovoked attack by rioters who tried to burn down the cleric's Najaf office. Witnesses said demonstrators were protesting an increase in political activity in and around the old city, which many Najaf residents and clergy consider holy.

Sadr's followers blamed a rival Shi'ite faction for the clashes and announced they would pull their bloc of at least 20 lawmakers and three ministers out of government. They said they have mobilized their militia, whose gun battles with US troops a year ago traumatized the nation.

Sadr supporters are hungry for revenge against the Supreme Council of the Islamic Republic of Iraq, the rival political party of Abdelaziz Hakim, which controls the Interior Ministry, said Fatah Sheik, a leader of Sadr's parliamentary bloc.

Shopkeepers and bystanders were among those killed and injured during the assault on police in the Jamiyaa neighborhood of Baghdad. The attackers, believed to be Sunni Arab insurgents, were armed with car bombs, rockets, and machine guns, police said.

The apparent target, a visiting police chief from the city of Samarra, survived. Iraqi police and soldiers, as well as US forces, rushed into the area to head off further attacks. Most of the gunmen escaped, but two suspects carrying rocket-propelled grenade launchers were arrested, a police official said.

Also in the capital, Iraq's deputy justice minister Osho Ibrahim narrowly escaped an assassination attempt, the second directed at him in two days.
BBond's answer to everything - Trot out a news article about the actions of the terrorists.

I notice you never post articles that specifically deal with terrorists being captured or killed, you patriot. :roll:

Yet you fail to provide anything that would contradict his argument.
My posts don't generally consist of anything besides proving my extreme and rabid hate of liberals. I don't have an argument.

Fixed for you

Wow.. you showed him :roll:
 

bamacre

Lifer
Jul 1, 2004
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Originally posted by: Pedro69
Ditto for BBond


BBond provides this board with a good bit, too. But he also posts a lot of trollish, immature, and hateful crap. Almost as bad as Dave.