MadRat
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The French pioneered the Toyota pickup attacks with ATGMs. They taught Chadian guerillas how to use them and devastated a group of Libyan tanks. Their most effective tactic was to charge simultaneously from multiple directions so that the tank could only fend off one of the attackers; the second would destroy the T-55 with its Milan ATGM.
If I don't post a link, people cannot call BS on me unless they know I'm BSing them. The burden of proof is on them. I should not be responsible for their lack of knowledge. I get tired of spelling things out to people. If they don't keep up with current events then their knowledge is deficient, not mine. I will not let their lack of knowledge burden me in any way.
I will not post links, I will make them find the info.
If the missile failed to injure any of the crewmen inside the tank, what makes you think that the tanks are "done for"? What you have is tank that is still fine on the inside, just in need of a new engine. Depending on how long the war lasts, they could still see action again. Replacing the engine isn't as hard as making a new tank.
If there were an ignore list here you'd be on it. Syria, Jordan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Iran just sent armed divisions to assist Iraq. Go find the link.
thanks for the info MadRat, yep none or one killed in the tank due to enemy fire, just like I thought.
the MI tanks are repairable indeed, but once the main stucture (hull mainly)is damaged to a certain point it's not practial to repair it, either destroy it completely or use it for parts.
the MI tanks are repairable indeed, but once the main stucture (hull mainly)is damaged to a certain point it's not practial to repair it, either destroy it completely or use it for parts.
Nope. The burden of proof is always on the person making the allegations. You can go ahead and ignore people's requests for links, but they are going to go ahead and not take you as a valid poster on some things if you do not provide links.
It is your right to not post links, it is others' right to ignore you until you back up a far-fetched/odd/questionable fact. No one is saying you have to provide links showing the earth is round, but when you state other things that may be "questionable"... well, having a link helps
It was a big surprise to me. The fact that the Kornet has two charges, one to set off the tanks reactive armor, then a second charge to penetrate the tank. That and the fact Iraq isn't supposed to have these weapons, and they appear to come from one of the three loud-mouthed countries that opposed us in the UN.
Now this is just sad... if you even bothered to read this thread you'd see that *I DID IN FACT PROVIDE A LINK*
Now look for it! Come on, I don't need to make a link to THIS PAGE do I? All you have to do is scroll up and you'll see it.
I agree with this partly, but in my experience there is no limit to human stupidity. Just when you think something is common sense and universally accepted, you'll meet somebody who doesn't believe it. And they'll fight you to no end when you try to prove the obvious.
So I've adopted a view that I'll maintain good relations with those I view as intelligent people, and I'll let the people I consider idiots hoot and holler as I ignore them.
Also, China has just moved tactical nukes outside of baghdad equiped with nerve gas releasing rocket fuel. Go find the link
no link to post, you will just have to take my word for it, don't take it personnally
that's one reason I called the article BS
we are using M1A2 also, I am also pretty sure they don't have reactive armor
that's one reason I called the article BS
we are using M1A2 also, I am also pretty sure they don't have reactive armor
It's kinda suprising that even freshmans in high school know that they must provide valid evidence when they claim something.
CEE = claim, evidence, elaboration
The new M1's have a few layers of armor on them. There's the steel hull of the tank, there's the Bristish design Chobham armor, and there are depleted uranium plates encased in steel.
Also, people on this forum have tried pointing out that no Abrams was ever lost in combat before, but this is untrue. 18 were lost in the first Gulf War, but no crew members were lost.
The tank is pretty damn heavy, but its jet turbine engine moves it along pretty good.
Also, people on this forum have tried pointing out that no Abrams was ever lost in combat before, but this is untrue. 18 were lost in the first Gulf War, but no crew members were lost.
The tank is pretty damn heavy, but its jet turbine engine moves it along pretty good.
we tested it but it didn't fly, I haven't seen it yet on TV on any tanks used in the war, I have seen M1A2's thou
yes they are heavy, too heavy
yes they are very fast considering there weight
they can do over 60, but are governed at 37 or so
yes they are very fast considering there weight
they can do over 60, but are governed at 37 or so
most of those lost in the gulf war were destroyed by us, so the enemy did NOT get them, out of fuel/ammo, stuck or broke down
When you get a little older than high school age, you come to expect a certain level of intelligence from people. You expect people to have at least a baseline of knowledge that they can rely on to hold a conversation with you. But sometimes you'll be amazed when you meet somebody who seems to know absolutely nothing about everything, and you wonder if they've been living in an ice cave for the last 20 years.
Here's my philosphy- make friends with those who are as smart of smarter than you, and ignore those who are dumber than you because you won't learn anything from them anyway.
There are many knowledgeable people on this board, and I try my best to hold intelligent conversations with them. Those who I view as idiots I really don't care about. They can say anything they want to me and I'm not going to be bothered by their drivel.
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