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Iran War Thread:2-13 U.S. readies for suicide boats in gulf

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dmcowen674

No Lifer
Looks inevitable that there will be a War with Iran.

I'm surprised it took this long to get to this point.

It could break out into WWIII should Russia and China side with the Iran nut job.

Between Armageddon Day 12-21-2012 being my 50th birthday and this possibility of WWIII, probabilities are getting higher the Mayans had it right that this is the end year.


2-13-2012

http://news.yahoo.com/u-navy-iran-prepares-suicide-bomb-boats-gulf-214228684.html

U.S. Navy: Iran prepares suicide bomb boats in Gulf


Iran has built up its naval forces in the Gulf and prepared boats that could be used in suicide attacks

"They have increased the number of submarines ... they increased the number of fast attack craft," Vice Admiral Mark Fox told reporters. "Some of the small boats have been outfitted with a large warhead that could be used as a suicide explosive device. The Iranians have a large mine inventory."


"We have watched with interest their development of long range rockets and short, medium and long range ballistic missiles and of course ... the development of their nuclear program," Fox, who heads the U.S. Fifth Fleet, said at a briefing on the fleet's base in the Gulf state of Bahrain.
Iran now has 10 small submarines, he said.
 
In the meantime the oil producers (Iranians included) are raking in the ever increasing profits gleaned from the fear induced price hikes this commotion is causing and laughing all the way to those off-shore banks to stash their loot.

I can just picture the oil magnates calling the Iranian ayatollahs on their encrypted commo gear and congratulating them for pushing oil prices ever higher and higher.

What a scam. Brinkmanship is good for business it seems.
 
dmcowen674 said:
Iran now has 10 small submarines
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Someone in the USA Navy asked about Iran sub threats made the comment that finding them on sonar was about as hard as throwing a stone in the ocean and hitting water. The technology is so old it is like comparing flint locks to a AR17. The same holds true for all their armed forces. The best the air force has is some old F14 and they have to salvage parts to keep those flying. The only leverage Iran has is the oil route, otherwise they are nothing that would take more than a few days to wipe off the map and we would not have to use anything nuclear to do it.
 
Modelworks said:
Someone in the USA Navy asked about Iran sub threats made the comment that finding them on sonar was about as hard as throwing a stone in the ocean and hitting water. The technology is so old it is like comparing flint locks to a AR17. The same holds true for all their armed forces. The best the air force has is some old F14 and they have to salvage parts to keep those flying. The only leverage Iran has is the oil route, otherwise they are nothing that would take more than a few days to wipe off the map and we would not have to use anything nuclear to do it.
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Yep, nothing that a few depth charges and air-air missiles can't fix
 
The small boats with bombs cannot get close enough to do anything, provided we have our troops on alert and they are allowed to life fire. I do not want a repeat of Beirut.
 
cybrsage said:
The small boats with bombs cannot get close enough to do anything, provided we have our troops on alert and they are allowed to life fire. I do not want a repeat of Beirut.
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Much depends on the targets. Iran may not go after the fleet, but the commercial shipping.

Do we or the world have enough small ships to perform escort duty starting from day 1 until Iran pulls back (voluntarily or involuntarily)?
 
EagleKeeper said:
Much depends on the targets. Iran may not go after the fleet, but the commercial shipping.

Do we or the world have enough small ships to perform escort duty starting from day 1 until Iran pulls back (voluntarily or involuntarily)?
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That is true. However, once they attack one ship we can use that as a reason to blow up all their ports.
 
cybrsage said:
That is true. However, once they attack one ship we can use that as a reason to blow up all their ports.
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Those boats do not have to launch from a port though.

Unless you can show that they were Iranian boats; then attacking a port becomes a initiated act of war.

One can guess that the boats were Iranian, but you need to have documented chain of custody
 
This isnt about some "Iran nut job". This is about people in this country being so stupid and braindead that they do not see or understand the most basic of truisms, such as "when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail". No common sense. No ability to reason. Just a bunch of lazy slobby brainwashed consumers who do exactly what their controllers say. If we need another war to boost the debt and profits, then that is what we get. Dont make the mistake of thinking this has anything to do with any person in particular. China and Russia are no better anyway. They will go along with it as long as it is in their interest too. The only ones who will lose is the general public, the same ones who cant use their melons to add two plus two and see imperialism for what it is.
 
Iran is being accused of trying to kill Israel envoys in India

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-17013987

I feel that things are at a tipping point. Russia is worried about the US having so many bases in the middle east. Russia is siding with Assad hoping to keep him in power.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-16797818

We have Israel and Iran about to go at it.

Right next to Israel and Iran we have Syria which is backed by Russia.

From what I see, the middle east is a powder keg waiting for a spark.
 
When a country places bombs on their own vehicles to give excuse for war, you know it's going to happen soon. Like I've stated many times over the last few months, the propaganda came has started, and will only escalate until there is full war.

Iran blames Israel for Nuke scientist death.
Israel blames Iran for Envoy bombing.

Both [will] say it will be an act of war. Who will act first though? So far Iran has done nothing. If Israel attacks. Who do you think is actually innocent here and who is the aggressor?

*whistles*
 
brandonb said:
Both [will] say it will be an act of war. Who will act first though? So far Iran has done nothing. If Israel attacks. Who do you think is actually innocent here and who is the aggressor?

*whistles*
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I think "doing nothing" is what Iran plans on doing.

Iran will continue its nuclear program, Israel and the US think they have no other option besides a military strike on Iran.

When Iran is attacked, the president of Iran will play the role of a victim.

If Iran has nukes, I think they will only use them after either Israel or the US attacks.
 
From what I understand, we have two carrier groups stationed right off Iran. And, unless I'm mistaken, by themselves, they constitute the 4th most powerful "country" in the world. Iran isn't going to start anything - it's all just posturing.
 
sm625 said:
This isnt about some "Iran nut job". This is about people in this country being so stupid and braindead that they do not see or understand the most basic of truisms, such as "when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail". No common sense. No ability to reason. Just a bunch of lazy slobby brainwashed consumers who do exactly what their controllers say. If we need another war to boost the debt and profits, then that is what we get. Dont make the mistake of thinking this has anything to do with any person in particular. China and Russia are no better anyway. They will go along with it as long as it is in their interest too. The only ones who will lose is the general public, the same ones who cant use their melons to add two plus two and see imperialism for what it is.
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So you advocate we be unprepared. Not a compelling argument. The World As It Is- There are people who have used such means before. It is possible given the circumstances that this may be one such time and place. To prepare for such a thing is like having a fire extinguisher in the kitchen. You might say thats unneeded however I have one. You are free not to do so but that does not absolve you of the consequences if one was needed.
 
Texashiker said:
I think "doing nothing" is what Iran plans on doing.

Iran will continue its nuclear program, Israel and the US think they have no other option besides a military strike on Iran.

When Iran is attacked, the president of Iran will play the role of a victim.

If Iran has nukes, I think they will only use them after either Israel or the US attacks.
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I don't see Iran using any nukes. Just like I didn't see Iraq using any nukes, or chemical weapons, biological weapons or anything else.

When the arab spring was in full force last year, I mentioned that the only real threats are Syria and Iran now that every other arab nation has either had government changes (with revolutions, etc). That the only non pro israel nations are now Syria and Iran, and they will be the next ones to change. They are the ones in the news today.

I understand Israel wanting to remove any threats, much like I understand Iran wanting to pursue nuke technology to defend themselves from the aggressors. But who is going to die to protect Israel? American's should not. I don't want my tax dollars recooping Israeli's eliminated arsenal either like we typically do. I'm tired of it.

What a suprise:

http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/13/opinion/cantor-iran-strategy/index.html?hpt=hp_t3
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Cantor

Israeli Spy.
 
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DrPizza said:
From what I understand, we have two carrier groups stationed right off Iran. And, unless I'm mistaken, by themselves, they constitute the 4th most powerful "country" in the world. Iran isn't going to start anything - it's all just posturing.
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This, and even if there were isolated skirmishes, Russia and especially China won't come to Iran's defense.
 
Londo_Jowo said:
Yep, nothing that a few depth charges and air-air missiles can't fix
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not in the Straight of Horitz. Superior navy of the US gets nullified as the space is limited and its close to the land which means its in missile range. US ran a simulation and found that they would loose over a 1000 men in under a hour if they would try to unblock it from Iran.
 
IndyColtsFan said:
This, and even if there were isolated skirmishes, Russia and especially China won't come to Iran's defense.
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I dont know if its so much as coming to the aid of Iran, or seeing the US as encroaching on Russia and China.

Strikes on Iran is a 2 fold problem:

1 - the flow of oil from Iran to China and Russia can not be disrupted.

2 - Russia worried about the US having bases in Iran.

As long as things stay "minor", then there probably will not be a problem.
 
LiuKangBakinPie said:
not in the Straight of Horitz. Superior navy of the US gets nullified as the space is limited and its close to the land which means its in missile range. US ran a simulation and found that they would loose over a 1000 men in under a hour if they would try to unblock it from Iran.
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link?
 
also, if war does happen (i doubt it will), will Barak be lauded or opposed for doing the exact thing he said he wouldn't do?

isn't gitmo still open too?
 
LiuKangBakinPie said:
not in the Straight of Horitz. Superior navy of the US gets nullified as the space is limited and its close to the land which means its in missile range. US ran a simulation and found that they would loose over a 1000 men in under a hour if they would try to unblock it from Iran.
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You do know aircraft carriers aren't giant battering rams right? They launch aircraft, hundreds of them. That and I assure you any Iranian missile sites that may be a threat are already identified and would be taken out in the opening stages of any conflict.
 
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