Iran ready to rumble. (7/13)

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straightalker

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Iran can buy nukes on the Black Market just like any terrorist organization can. They probably already have some ssuitcase nnukes, since so many of those have gone unaccounted for in the Soviet Union/Russia in the past couple decades. There's also loads of dirty bomb making materials on the Black Market. Just a few of those would make Isreal totally uninhabitable for the next several billion years. Not that anyone would be around to count that far.

The crux of what i'm saying is, ...Isreal is extremely vulnerable do to it's small size and being surrounded by large hostile Nations with plenty of landmass to absorb some nuclear retaliation. The hatreds in that region go back thousands of years and go deep to the core. Viscious hatreds. Such a climate of hate must always seek diplomatic solutions just because any fighting can very easily escalate into cataclyzmic proportions.

Iran should be left alone and not provoked. The amount of terror they do is matched if not far exceeded by the Isreali Massad. Both Nations are two of the World's top hostile terrorist Nations. Fact be known. Rogue Intel Agencies being the chief runaway problem in our World today. Large civilian populations are completely exposed to the horrific outcomes of so-called "rumbling" or war. It's a question mankind has to settle. Will we go on hating and settling our affairs with violence or will we for the good of all humanity learn to live together in if not peace then at least not war.
 

linkgoron

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Originally posted by: blackllotus
Didn't Israel threaten to go nuclear in the gulf war? If Israel gets invaded by all the surrounding countries then I think they would nuke the ****** out of them.

Going nuclear? Never. Only as a last resort will Israel go nuclear.
 

MBrown

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(I dont know much about this issue. I hope to learn more about it in this thread so bear with me in my post)Why are people getting mad at Isreal. They arent just attacking for no reason right? They had some of their soldiers taken hostage. Isnt that enough reason to go to war? They messed with Isreal and Isreal doesnt play games.
 

FrancesBeansRevenge

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Of course, anyone who thinks Israel attacked unprovoked doesn't know their history.
Syria was blockading Israeli shipping in the Gulf of Aqaba, itself an act of war.

It's not surprising. The sly, quiet, but nonetheless aggressive, moves pressuring nations into war are rarely taken into account. Those who fire the first shot are usually blamed.

People still think America was attacked unprovoked by the Japanese in Dec 41 and rarely, very rarely, know about the American blockade on oil exports to Japan (like you say itself an act of war). Japan had little to no oil industry to speak of, and a blockade of oil imports would almost certainly trigger war and we knew it:

The warmaking potentialities of this decision had been recognized by Roosevelt himself shortly before it was taken. Addressing a delegation and explaining why oil exports to Japan had not been stopped previously, he said:

"It was very essential, from our own selfish point of view of defense, to prevent a war from starting in the South Pacific. So our foreign policy was trying to stop a war from breaking out down there.... Now, if we cut the oil off, they [the Japanese] probably would have gone down to the Netherlands East Indies a year ago, and we would have had war."

 

russoxley187

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I always think its funny as hell that people talk about war and military action that actually have never served a day in the military.
Israel will NEVER attack Iran or Syria without out help and support. Trust me when I tell you this. They just want to readicate the damn terrorsits in Lebanon right now. Somethin that the lebanese government was supposed to do years ago, but could not. Since Hezbolla is actually has a stronger military that the lebanese government.
 

LegendKiller

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Originally posted by: straightalker
Iran can buy nukes on the Black Market just like any terrorist organization can. They probably already have some ssuitcase nnukes, since so many of those have gone unaccounted for in the Soviet Union/Russia in the past couple decades. There's also loads of dirty bomb making materials on the Black Market. Just a few of those would make Isreal totally uninhabitable for the next several billion years. Not that anyone would be around to count that far.

The crux of what i'm saying is, ...Isreal is extremely vulnerable do to it's small size and being surrounded by large hostile Nations with plenty of landmass to absorb some nuclear retaliation. The hatreds in that region go back thousands of years and go deep to the core. Viscious hatreds. Such a climate of hate must always seek diplomatic solutions just because any fighting can very easily escalate into cataclyzmic proportions.

Iran should be left alone and not provoked. The amount of terror they do is matched if not far exceeded by the Isreali Massad. Both Nations are two of the World's top hostile terrorist Nations. Fact be known. Rogue Intel Agencies being the chief runaway problem in our World today. Large civilian populations are completely exposed to the horrific outcomes of so-called "rumbling" or war. It's a question mankind has to settle. Will we go on hating and settling our affairs with violence or will we for the good of all humanity learn to live together in if not peace then at least not war.

Sounds like we have a real world mover and shaker here. He knows how the black market works, where, how, and how easily it is to get everything. Hey buddy, would you mind passing me one of those suitcase nukes?


The black market threat is overstated. The "missing" suitcase nukes are an urban myth, and dirty bomb materials can be found anywhere, including your household fire alarm. If anybody wanted a nuke and could get it, then why do they try to hard to make them? Why not just buy it and declare you have it?

Seriously, parents shouldn't let kids play with the intarweb.