Iran Plotted Terrorist Attacks Against United States/Saudi Arabia/Israel

[Doboji]

Obviously the propaganda machine is out in full force trying to blame Iran for everything. Finding justifications to go blow the shit out of them.

I do not believe a word of it. Why? The divide and conquer mentality involved in this. Iran is plotting to kill a Saudi? WTF is that crap? What does Iran have to gain by killing a Saudi? Nothing except a neighbhor to war with.

We have alot to gain by having Arab fighting Arabs, less American blood spilled.

Propaganda. Lets use some Judge Judy logic here and think of the obvious. This does not pass the sniff test.

Wow, you really expose your ignorance with this post.

1. Iran and Saudi Arabia are not allies... they are pretty much in a cold war against each other for influence in the Middle East.

2. Iran would never go to real war with Saudi Arabia... the fact that Mecca and Medina reside in Saudi Arabia kill that idea on the vine.

3. Iranians do NOT consider themselves Arab.

If you actually know a damn thing about the middle east, it absolutely passes the sniff test. Makes perfect sense to attempt to damage the US relationship with Saudi Arabia... what doesn't make sense is what the US Govt would gain by lying about it. Since it's unlikely this administration will do anything militarily... I just fail to see what the point would be in lying? To get a pat on the back? Sure.. why not. Seems like a lot of conspiracy work for a pat on the back. Occam's razor says this is real.

 

[lothar]

Obviously the propaganda machine is out in full force trying to blame Iran for everything. Finding justifications to go blow the shit out of them.

I do not believe a word of it. Why? The divide and conquer mentality involved in this. Iran is plotting to kill a Saudi? WTF is that crap? What does Iran have to gain by killing a Saudi? Nothing except a neighbhor to war with.

We have alot to gain by having Arab fighting Arabs, less American blood spilled.

Propaganda. Lets use some Judge Judy logic here and think of the obvious. This does not pass the sniff test.

Obama is now following the Bush/McCain propaganda of singing "Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran"? Hope and change...

You must not have been paying attention the past few months regarding the situation in Bahrain and also OPEC. 🙄
Saudi Arabia and Iran are fighting for top dog influence in the middle east.
Right now though, Saudi Arabia still has it.

 

[midwestfisherman]

thats not how the world views them. only US and israel see it this way

Oh really, how about some concrete evidence to that fact?

 

[brandonb]

Obama is now following the Bush/McCain propaganda of singing "Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran"? Hope and change...

You must not have been paying attention the past few months regarding the situation in Bahrain and also OPEC. 🙄
Saudi Arabia and Iran are fighting for top dog influence in the middle east.
Right now though, Saudi Arabia still has it.

Sounds like a perfect time for someone (USA/Israel) to stir up the hornets nest and cause some trouble. Doesn't it? Powder Keg...

Iran is not going to risk war with multiple nations when its already in the hot seat and trying to gain influence. Iran has up to this point always used political manoveuring to gain influence, never brute force. Iran can't use brute force, as they will lose. Iran is playing a chess game. This "plot" doesn't serve any purpose to that game, if they succeeded or failed.

 

[piasabird]

Should probably include Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and every other country near them. They pay the Hezbolah to create unrest in the region and then sit in their own country in relative peace. Instead of trying to fight off the terrorists, just cut off the head of the snake!

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

This isn't that complicated. First thing is to make sure that we know what we think we know. Assuming that Iran is responsible then we publish the evidence. Next step is to ram it down the throat of the UN and pull it out every time someone mentions "peaceful", "nuclear", and "Iran" in the same sentence. we don't do something stupid like start a war but keep our options open and that includes limited military strikes depending on the specific context and facts at that time.

 

[Doboji]

Did you guys hear Hilary Clinton's statement? They are looking at ways to sanction the "specific individuals" within the Iran govt responsible for this plot. So they are alleging to know the specific people involved. Sounds like they have some pretty powerful evidence there somewhere to know that level of info.

 

[woolfe9999]

Did you guys hear Hilary Clinton's statement? They are looking at ways to sanction the "specific individuals" within the Iran govt responsible for this plot. So they are alleging to know the specific people involved. Sounds like they have some pretty powerful evidence there somewhere to know that level of info.

Yes I agree it sounds like they have some very specific evidence, but how do we go about sanctioning individuals within that government?

 

[Doboji]

Yes I agree it sounds like they have some very specific evidence, but how do we go about sanctioning individuals within that government?

Make them "persona non grata" around the world? Freezing foreign bank accounts? Limiting global travel... etc etc etc.

 

[lothar]

Sounds like a perfect time for someone (USA/Israel) to stir up the hornets nest and cause some trouble. Doesn't it? Powder Keg...

Iran is not going to risk war with multiple nations when its already in the hot seat and trying to gain influence. Iran has up to this point always used political manoveuring to gain influence, never brute force. Iran can't use brute force, as they will lose. Iran is playing a chess game. This "plot" doesn't serve any purpose to that game, if they succeeded or failed.

You can't possibly be that obtuse...

 

[lothar]

This isn't that complicated. First thing is to make sure that we know what we think we know. Assuming that Iran is responsible then we publish the evidence. Next step is to ram it down the throat of the UN and pull it out every time someone mentions "peaceful", "nuclear", and "Iran" in the same sentence. we don't do something stupid like start a war but keep our options open and that includes limited military strikes depending on the specific context and facts at that time.

Good luck getting Chinese and Russian support.

 

[Lemon law]

Lets see, the USA and Israel as government policy have played the assassination game for decades. The Cia plotted and did over throw an Iranian democracy in 1953. We did the same in Chile, Vietnam, and still do it in Afghanistan and Iraq. As for Israel, it assassinates people all over the mid-east.

Yet when some people only lightly associated with Iran just plots to assassinate a Saudi
diplomat with no real proof more than a few nuts in Iran knew anything about, the USA pretends its a moral outrage.

By that same reasoning, the 911 hijackers were a Saudi act of war.

In other words, the actions of two lone nuts in the USA are proof of every Iranian and especially the entire Iranian government is guilty of a great conspiracy. Elect terror terror Rudy Guillini for President ASAP. There is an Iranian under every bed.

 

[lothar]

Lets see, the USA and Israel as government policy have played the assassination game for decades. The Cia plotted and did over throw an Iranian democracy in 1953. We did the same in Chile, Vietnam, and still do it in Afghanistan and Iraq. As for Israel, it assassinates people all over the mid-east.

Yet when some people only lightly associated with Iran just plots to assassinate a Saudi
diplomat with no real proof more than a few nuts in Iran knew anything about, the USA pretends its a moral outrage.

By that same reasoning, the 911 hijackers were a Saudi act of war.

In other words, the actions of two lone nuts in the USA are proof of every Iranian and especially the entire Iranian government is guilty of a great conspiracy. Re-elect terror terror Barack Obama for President ASAP. There is an Iranian under every bed.

Since it's the Obama admin that's doing this, I've fixed your statement for you.

 

[Doboji]

Lets see, the USA and Israel as government policy have played the assassination game for decades. The Cia plotted and did over throw an Iranian democracy in 1953. We did the same in Chile, Vietnam, and still do it in Afghanistan and Iraq. As for Israel, it assassinates people all over the mid-east.

Yet when some people only lightly associated with Iran just plots to assassinate a Saudi
diplomat with no real proof more than a few nuts in Iran knew anything about, the USA pretends its a moral outrage.

By that same reasoning, the 911 hijackers were a Saudi act of war.

In other words, the actions of two lone nuts in the USA are proof of every Iranian and especially the entire Iranian government is guilty of a great conspiracy. Elect terror terror Rudy Guillini for President ASAP. There is an Iranian under every bed.

I think you'll find the evidence a bit more substantial that that...

Do you really think we should shrug our shoulders and accept this assassination attempt? Do you have any evidence of these so-called CIA assassinations?

 

[Jaskalas]

Did you guys hear Hilary Clinton's statement? They are looking at ways to sanction the "specific individuals" within the Iran govt responsible for this plot. So they are alleging to know the specific people involved. Sounds like they have some pretty powerful evidence there somewhere to know that level of info.

Clinton eh? She vote for the Iraq war. Her husband said Iraq had WMDs. It's a Democrat warmongering conspiracy.

 

[KlokWyze]

Lets see, the USA and Israel as government policy have played the assassination game for decades. The Cia plotted and did over throw an Iranian democracy in 1953. We did the same in Chile, Vietnam, and still do it in Afghanistan and Iraq. As for Israel, it assassinates people all over the mid-east.

Yet when some people only lightly associated with Iran just plots to assassinate a Saudi
diplomat with no real proof more than a few nuts in Iran knew anything about, the USA pretends its a moral outrage.

By that same reasoning, the 911 hijackers were a Saudi act of war.

In other words, the actions of two lone nuts in the USA are proof of every Iranian and especially the entire Iranian government is guilty of a great conspiracy. Elect terror terror Rudy Guillini for President ASAP. There is an Iranian under every bed.

But that's the game that's played and Iran is a noob. The fact they identify themselves as American/Western opponents (not unreasonable given history lulz) means they SHOULD be very worried about what anyone even remotely associated with them is doing.

I mean they tried to hire a DEA informant FFS. Doesn't get more embarrassing than that. 😀

 

[momeNt]

Over there, over there,

Send the word, send the word over there

That the Yanks are coming, the Yanks are coming

The drums rum-tumming everywhere.

So prepare, say a prayer,

Send the word, send the word to beware -

We'll be over, we're coming over,

And we won't come back till it's over, over there.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

I don't see Obama trying to use this as any sort of excuse to go to war so all the comments pertaining to that come off as baseless rhetoric. It's not much of a surprise though since many of those comments are coming from the usual P&N Iran apologists. Their darling country simply couldn't have been involved in anything of the sort and therefore it must be the US beating the war drums.

Pathetic.

 

[Jhhnn]

I don't see Obama trying to use this as any sort of excuse to go to war so all the comments pertaining to that come off as baseless rhetoric. It's not much of a surprise though since many of those comments are coming from the usual P&N Iran apologists. Their darling country simply couldn't have been involved in anything of the sort and therefore it must be the US beating the war drums.

Pathetic.

Some of us don't suffer from the attention span of fruit flies. Remember Iraq's "reconstituted nuclear program"? Their vast arsenal of WMD's? Their "links" to Al Qaeda?

It's amazing how eagerly people who don't trust the govt to run an after school program go straight to raving for war... on the slimmest of pretext. Just say "Iran" & they're foaming at the mouth.

 

[Craig234]

Some of us don't suffer from the attention span of fruit flies. Remember Iraq's "reconstituted nuclear program"? Their vast arsenal of WMD's? Their "links" to Al Qaeda?

It's amazing how eagerly people who don't trust the govt to run an after school program go straight to raving for war... on the slimmest of pretext. Just say "Iran" & they're foaming at the mouth.

It's interesting how related some brain functions seem.

Beer is sold by putting it in the hands of pretty girls, and the buyers don't seem to understand how they're being manipulated.

Promoting war seems to have similar hot buttons to push - national pride, bigotry, manliness, and many more - and people are also unaware of it.

 

[GarfieldtheCat]

Link

Interesting questions raised.

 

[Doboji]

It's interesting how related some brain functions seem.

Beer is sold by putting it in the hands of pretty girls, and the buyers don't seem to understand how they're being manipulated.

Promoting war seems to have similar hot buttons to push - national pride, bigotry, manliness, and many more - and people are also unaware of it.

Sometimes this is true... and sometimes it's not. Calling everyone manipulated sheep who consider Iran's actions as acts of war is certainly not accurate. My desire to punish Iran is not based on any "hot buttons". It's based on the fact that I am an American citizen and do not wish to welcome our enemies to seek actions against us... I want our enemies to fear us. I want them to understand that taking actions that harm my country, and imperil our people or our interests is a very costly endeavor.

That is all... you're welcome to disagree with me, and tell me why and how. But don't dismiss me as a manipulated buffoon. Because I'm not.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Link

Interesting questions raised.

As I said earlier one ought not act until there is compelling evidence, however even the best run organizations occasionally screw the pooch.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Some of us don't suffer from the attention span of fruit flies. Remember Iraq's "reconstituted nuclear program"? Their vast arsenal of WMD's? Their "links" to Al Qaeda?

It's amazing how eagerly people who don't trust the govt to run an after school program go straight to raving for war... on the slimmest of pretext. Just say "Iran" & they're foaming at the mouth.

Some of us aren't idiots and can recognize the difference between what the WH is doing about this issue vs. how Bush & Co reacted on 9/11. Not to mention there is an order of magnitude of difference between the two cases.

P.S. - Claiming to have an attention span doesn't mean you are actually paying attention, because clearly you are not.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Good luck getting Chinese and Russian support.

It's a given that you are correct about lack of support but that is not the point which IS to make a point.

These things add up over time and if action were necessary a good "hey we warned you" based on facts would be handy. This of course depends on things being as they appear. I'm not ready to say they are at this time.