Iran nuclear scientist defects to U.S.

[fallout man]

Funny that...

How many US politicians have run for office successfully without the fundie base approval?

I'm so fucking high right now, you guys.

Keep up trying to reach up to your little mitzvah, IHA. You're doing a heckuva-job, boobie.

 

[Lemon law]

Be it resolved, we can't trust nukes to Muslims, Christians, Jews, atheist Russians, Chinese chinks, and while I am on a roll, lets see how many more groups I can manage to demonize and call untrustworthy.

But wait, the defected spy is presumably a Muslim, and therefore not to be trusted.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Be it resolved, we can't trust nukes to Muslims, Christians, Jews, atheist Russians, Chinese chinks, and while I am on a roll, lets see how many more groups I can manage to demonize and call untrustworthy.

But wait, the defected spy is presumably a Muslim, and therefore not to be trusted.

That's really cool!

Has nothing to do with the situation at hand, but it's really cool!

 

[Noobtastic]

Keep up trying to reach up to your little mitzvah, IHA. You're doing a heckuva-job, boobie.

You are the one that is high by drawing parallels between america and iran.

did you not take basic government in high school?

 

[Sclamoz]

It's a secular government. That doesn't mean without religious influence, because it's painfully obvious that is the case.

Now in Iran those who can run for office have to be approved by the clerics. In Pakistan, people can run for office without such approval. The laws are passed by those who are elected, and while they can't go against religious teachings officially, people have as much say as who can run for office as we have here. Considering the stranglehold the political parties have on us there's not much difference. Bow down and pray to the party platform or thou shall not hold office.

Its mind boggling that you can even think of making that argument. An officeholder being a religious official or approved by one isn't the defacto standard for a non-secular government its taking a neutral stance on religion. Considering Pakistan is an official Islamic state, all of its laws have to obey Islam and they teach Islam in their schools (as well as hate for the west and non-muslims) I don't see how its possible to even consider Pakistan secular.

I agree about the parallels between US and radical Islamic states. The US is far from being secular.

I don't want to derail this thread anymore so I'll shutup about it anyways.

Iran is a oligarchy run by mullahs and a supreme leader. The "fundie base" controls the government. The citizens are largely progressive, except for the leftists who still worship the Islamists.

Citizens against mullahs = Progressive(normally considered leftist)
Leftists(normally considered Progressive) = Worship Islamists

What you posted doesn't make sense.

 

[Noobtastic]

Citizens against mullahs = Progressive(normally considered leftist)
Leftists(normally considered Progressive) = Worship Islamists

What you posted doesn't make sense.

There are real progressives (such as myself) who support progress, and then there are "progressive" who hide behind a laundry list of buzzwords to defend backward states like Iran.

Same with the "anti-racists" who say their hatred of Israel is because it is "racist" when in fact they support its racist enemies.

It's gaming semantics. Progressiveness is an ideology not always predicated on progress.

The REAL progressives in Iran protest the Islamists. The looney leftists march lock-step with the islamists during the revolution, and then got fucked when the islamists came into power.

Just as the Jews marched lock-step with the Bolsheviks during the civil war, and then got fucked when the bolsheviks won.

 

[Sclamoz]

There are real progressives (such as myself) who support progress, and then there are "progressive" who hide behind a laundry list of buzzwords to defend backward states like Iran.

Same with the "anti-racists" who say their hatred of Israel is because it is "racist" when in fact they support its racist enemies.

It's gaming semantics. Progressiveness is an ideology not always predicated on progress.

The REAL progressives in Iran protest the Islamists. The looney leftists march lock-step with the islamists during the revolution, and then got fucked when the islamists came into power.

Just as the Jews marched lock-step with the Bolsheviks during the civil war, and then got fucked when the bolsheviks won.

Why do you bring Israel into everything? Just because someone criticizes Israel about someting doesn't mean they are pro Iran.

Ahmadinejad's party represent the conservative/religious fundamentalists in Iran. Do you know were that puts him on the right/left chart? Mousavi and the Green Path want institutionalized social justice, that sounds like evil leftist talk to me.

Further north, in the Fereshteh neighborhood of north Tehran, the turnout for Mousavi is overwhelming. Hundreds of people are waiting in line to vote at a mosque and cultural center, men to the left and women to the right. As I walk down the aisle between them, a young woman notices that I am an American reporter. "Vote for Mousavi!" she says. I tell her that I can't vote, but that I voted for Obama. A crowd is gathering. "Obama!" Three or four people applaud. Several of them say, "We like Mousavi!" Few speak English, but they are translating for each other. I say, "Perhaps Mousavi and Obama will meet soon." By now there are thirty or forty people listening to the conversation. All of them break out into cheers and applause. It's a startling, and stunning moment.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/tehranbureau/2009/06/who-voted-for-ahmadinejad.html

 

[Noobtastic]

Why do you bring Israel into everything? Just because someone criticizes Israel about someting doesn't mean they are pro Iran.

I never said that.

Ahmadinejad's party represent the conservative/religious fundamentalists in Iran. Do you know were that puts him on the right/left chart? Mousavi and the Green Path want institutionalized social justice, that sounds like evil leftist talk to me.

Mousavi was an original founder of the Islamist revolution. The "Green Path" is just as authoritarian and anti-American as A-jad, its policies would be exclusively domestic.

Mousavi is playing the same game as Muhammad Khatami.

When Khatami was elected in 1997 and in 2001, he fed the international world the same bullshit. Civil rights, social justice, rule of law, inter-culture, peace, blah blah blah.

Iran was no longer isolated from the World, and its economy grew exponentially.

However, the Israeli government continued to tell the USA that nothing had changed, and the Iranian government was far from reforming its foreign policy. USA basically told Israel to STFU and for awhile she did.

Then when A-jad was elected, the real Iran was exposed. Bush fucked things up by declaring the state as part of an "axis of evil" and alienated the real reform movements within the country. This, coupled with the invasion of Iraq...allowed Iran to extend its foreign policy and influence to other regimes like Lebanon, Syria, South America, and the Palestinians.

Iran's behavior today is more of the same but the Left bought into the Khatami bullshit, and then they buy into the Mousavi bullshit. Even if Mousavi was elected, it would change nothing. Iran's nuclear program BEGAN under Mousavi, and it continued even as Israel continued to tell the West Iran had no intention of changing its narrative and flowery language from Khatami was nothin but bullshit.

American leftist need to read a book on Soviet propaganda. Much of the propaganda department created in the 70s and 80s in the USSR continue to dominate the psuedo-intellectuals of our liberal universities.

 

[Sclamoz]

I never said that.




Mousavi was an original founder of the Islamist revolution. The "Green Path" is just as authoritarian and anti-American as A-jad, its policies would be exclusively domestic.

Mousavi is playing the same game as Muhammad Khatami.

When Khatami was elected in 1997 and in 2001, he fed the international world the same bullshit. Civil rights, social justice, rule of law, inter-culture, peace, blah blah blah.

Iran was no longer isolated from the World, and its economy grew exponentially.

However, the Israeli government continued to tell the USA that nothing had changed, and the Iranian government was far from reforming its foreign policy. USA basically told Israel to STFU and for awhile she did.

Then when A-jad was elected, the real Iran was exposed. Bush fucked things up by declaring the state as part of an "axis of evil" and alienated the real reform movements within the country. This, coupled with the invasion of Iraq...allowed Iran to extend its foreign policy and influence to other regimes like Lebanon, Syria, South America, and the Palestinians.

Iran's behavior today is more of the same but the Left bought into the Khatami bullshit, and then they buy into the Mousavi bullshit. Even if Mousavi was elected, it would change nothing. Iran's nuclear program BEGAN under Mousavi, and it continued even as Israel continued to tell the West Iran had no intention of changing its narrative and flowery language from Khatami was nothin but bullshit.

American leftist need to read a book on Soviet propaganda. Much of the propaganda department created in the 70s and 80s in the USSR continue to dominate the psuedo-intellectuals of our liberal universities.

The REAL progressives in Iran protest the Islamists. The looney leftists march lock-step with the islamists during the revolution, and then got fucked when the islamists came into power.

The protests in Iran against the government are lead by Mousavi and his Green Path. You've contradicted yourself.

I know Mousavi's background, though to his credit he's called the revolution a failure & regrets his part in setting up the current government. I'm sure your hate for him has something to do with Israel, I don't really care.

 

[Noobtastic]

The protests in Iran against the government are lead by Mousavi and his Green Path. You've contradicted yourself.

I know Mousavi's background, though to his credit he's called the revolution a failure & regrets his part in setting up the current government. I'm sure your hate for him has something to do with Israel, I don't really care.

This isn't a response. Mousavi was an architech of the revolution. His philosophy internationally is no less different than the status-quo.

Protests against the government are not unusual, and Mousavi made himself the official leader of them even though he did not specifically organize them. The people look to Mousavi because he is the only oppositional candidate.

People hate A-jad because he alienates the West and makes Iran look like a shitty nation. The people really don't care about the nuclear program, though there is a strong dislike for Iran's support for Hezbollah and Hamas.

 

[Sclamoz]

This isn't a response. Mousavi was an architech of the revolution. His philosophy internationally is no less different than the status-quo.

Yes, as you pointed out he and his supporters are progressive just like you.

Protests against the government are not unusual, and Mousavi made himself the official leader of them even though he did not specifically organize them. The people look to Mousavi because he is the only oppositional candidate.

The protests after the election started when Mousavi didn't win. At first they were being organized by his supporters through the internet, later on he was leading marches.

People hate A-jad because he alienates the West and makes Iran look like a shitty nation. The people really don't care about the nuclear program, though there is a strong dislike for Iran's support for Hezbollah and Hamas.

People are in Iran are mainly upset with the economic conditions and stricter by the day religious laws. Ahmenijad was supported by mainly poor and rural voters campaigning on improving the economy. The opposite has happened, so young people in college or just out are pissed off about that and the crazy religious restrictions make up Mousavi's supporters.

• Almost two-thirds of Iranians support financial assistance to Palestinian
opposition groups like Hamas and Islamic Jihad, as well as Lebanese
Hezbollah and Iraqi Shia militias;
• However, only a third consider the Iranian government providing financial
support to these groups as very important, as opposed to 47% who think that
seeking trade and political relations with Western countries is very important.
In contrast, 88% of the public want improvement in their economy to be the
top priority of the Iranian government, with developing nuclear weapons last
at 29%;
• While nearly two-thirds support Hamas and Hezbollah, 55%of Iranians would
also endorse recognizing Israel and Palestine each as separate, independent
states, as part of achieving normal relations with the United States;
• 78% of Iranians strongly favor the development of nuclear energy, but only
33% strongly favor nuclear weapons;

Similarly, 73% of Iranians would favor a medical humanitarian hospital ship to
visit Iran, with that percentage holding steady if the ship comes from China or
Europe, but dropping to 42% if the ship is American and only 21% if the ship
is Israeli.

http://www.terrorfreetomorrow.org/upimagestft/TFT Iran Survey Report.pdf

 

[Noobtastic]

People are in Iran are mainly upset with the economic conditions and stricter by the day religious laws. Ahmenijad was supported by mainly poor and rural voters campaigning on improving the economy. The opposite has happened, so young people in college or just out are pissed off about that and the crazy religious restrictions make up Mousavi's supporters.

You still aren't accepting the fact that Mousavi would not change or adjust their nuclear program to meet the demands of the UNSC or USA.

Khatami promised the same BULLSHIT, and while his promises opened the doors to further economic opportunities in Europe and USA, the foreign policy didn't change and support for Hamas, Hezbollah, nuclear program continued except criticism was largely muted.

Mousavi would change nothing. If anything, his election would make it more difficult to force a compromise because then politicians would be less adamant to put pressure on Iran when such a "liberal" leader is in office.

Image is everything. Mousavi is all image.

Mousavi imprisoned thousands of political dissidents and hundreds were executed. He is not the Barack Obama of Iran.
​

 

[Sclamoz]

You still aren't accepting the fact that Mousavi would not change or adjust their nuclear program to meet the demands of the UNSC or USA.

I completely accept that fact as its not up to the president in Iran to make those decisions. I'm also not a supporter of Mousavi, or any other politician

 

[Lemon law]

Maybe the thing to be said about Iran, is that the fall of the Shah was inevitable.

He was a genuine inhuman monster, a total disaster for Iran, but an asset to the USA and Western Interests. Finally his reign of fear and intimidation managed to alienate even his most ardent supporters, and the speed of his fall amazed the world. And suddenly the Shah fled Iran with all the gold he could carry, good riddance to bad rubbish. And thus throwing all of Iran into instant uncertainty.

And at such moments of world history, the cry of comrade, we have been betrayed and the wicked witch is dead are similarly inevitable. Sadly, for the history of Iran, the Mullahs and the Ayatollahs were better poised to seize that Iranian moment, but that outcome was by no means inevitable.

And here we are, some 30 years later, as the Mullah's of Iran have become the new Shah, complete with his old torture policies. Its not rocket science to predict the Mullahs of Iran will get, in the fullness of time, the same ole heave ho the Shah got.

But we should never assume, that a new Iran will ever be the same Monty Hall pro West
whore that the Shah was.

 

[Noobtastic]

Maybe the thing to be said about Iran, is that the fall of the Shah was inevitable.

He was a genuine inhuman monster, a total disaster for Iran, but an asset to the USA and Western Interests. Finally his reign of fear and intimidation managed to alienate even his most ardent supporters, and the speed of his fall amazed the world. And suddenly the Shah fled Iran with all the gold he could carry, good riddance to bad rubbish. And thus throwing all of Iran into instant uncertainty.

And at such moments of world history, the cry of comrade, we have been betrayed and the wicked witch is dead are similarly inevitable. Sadly, for the history of Iran, the Mullahs and the Ayatollahs were better poised to seize that Iranian moment, but that outcome was by no means inevitable.

And here we are, some 30 years later, as the Mullah's of Iran have become the new Shah, complete with his old torture policies. Its not rocket science to predict the Mullahs of Iran will get, in the fullness of time, the same ole heave ho the Shah got.

But we should never assume, that a new Iran will ever be the same Monty Hall pro West
whore that the Shah was.

Please. The Shah was a moderate compared to the despots of the Gulf and the baathists in Syria and Iraq.

"Monster" is all relative in the Middle East. With the exception of Israel, every country in the region is led by a "monster."

Go to the home of an Iranian family in Bel air and you'll see a nice, big fat picture of the Shah hanging above their kitchen table.

 

[halik]

It will be interesting to see how this plays out. Especially for those of you who honestly believe that Iran should be allowed to have nuclear weapons!
It will also mbe interesting to see how this plays out for those of you who swear that iran ONLY has peaceful intents for the nuclear program!!

Read on....there is a shit load of information in all 3 articles!!

Shahram Amiri Defects To US: Missing Iranian Nuclear Scientist Helping CIA, Reports ABC News

AP) WASHINGTON — An Iranian nuclear scientist who had been reported missing since last summer has defected to the U.S. and is assisting the CIA in its efforts to undermine Iran's nuclear program, ABC News reported Tuesday.

The scientist, Shahram Amiri, has been resettled in the U.S., according to the report.

The CIA had no comment on the report, a spokesman said.

President Barack Obama said Tuesday he hopes international sanctions against Iran for pursuing its nuclear ambitions will be in place this spring. Iran maintains that its nuclear research is for peaceful purposes and not to develop weapons.

Amiri, who worked at Tehran's Malek Ashtar University, an institution closely connected to Iran's Revolutionary Guard, disappeared last June while in Saudi Arabia on a pilgrimage. While his disappearance led to speculation that he had defected and was assisting the West in its efforts to keep track of Iran's nuclear program, the foreign minister for Iran accused the U.S. of helping to kidnap him.

Citing people briefed on the intelligence operation, ABC News said Amiri's disappearance was part of a long-planned CIA operation to persuade him to defect. The CIA reportedly approached Amiri in Iran through an intermediary who made an offer of resettlement on behalf of the United States, ABC News said.

Amiri has been extensively debriefed since his defection, according to the report, and has helped to confirm U.S. intelligence assessments about the Iranian nuclear program.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/30/shahram-amiri-defects-to-_n_519437.html


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Iranian scientist defects: US covert ops hurt Iran nuclear program

Istanbul, Turkey
An Iranian nuclear scientist who disappeared while on a religious pilgrimage to Saudi Arabia last year is reported to have defected to the United States and been briefing the CIA on Iran’s controversial nuclear program.

News's report on Shahram Amiri is a rare public revelation on a long-running covert intelligence effort led by the United States.

Sources briefed on the continuing CIA operation told ABC that Mr. Amiri’s defection was “an intelligence coup” in American attempts to damage and better understand Iran’s controversial nuclear program.

“Amiri’s disappearance was part of a long-planned CIA operation to get him to defect,” ABC reported. “The CIA reportedly approached the scientist in Iran through an intermediary who made an offer of resettlement on behalf of the United States.” Amiri “helped confirm US intelligence assessments” about Iran’s nuclear work.



“Iran has by now enough trained operators and scientists that it would be impossible to decapitate the program by persuading the leading scientists to defect or otherwise making them disappear,” says Mark Fitzpatrick, a nuclear nonproliferation expert at the International Institute for Strategic Studies in London. “But in any fledgling nuclear weapons program, there are a small number of key scientists who can make the critical breakthroughs,” Mr. Fitzpatrick told the Monitor.

President Barack Obama on Tuesday said he wanted to quickly see a fourth round of UN sanctions imposed upon Iran, because Iran has not yet been able to convince the UN’s nuclear watchdog agency that it aims only for peaceful energy production. “I’m interested in seeing that regime in place in weeks,” Mr. Obama said after meeting French President Nicolas Sarkozy in Washington.

Building diplomatic momentum for more sanctions was the top agenda item for G-8 foreign ministers meeting in Canada. In their final communiqué on Tuesday, they agreed to “remain open to dialogue” with Tehran but “reaffirmed the need to take appropriate and strong steps” to demonstrate resolve.

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Midd...fects-US-covert-ops-hurt-Iran-nuclear-program

---------------------------------------------------------------------------

From The Times April 1, 2010

Defection of Iranian nuclear scientist Shahram Amiri ‘a CIA coup’

An Iranian nuclear scientist who disappeared while on pilgrimage to Mecca last year has defected to the United States and is living and working there for the CIA, it was reported yesterday.

Revelations about Shahram Amiri’s defection came as the US and five other world powers, including China, were said to have reached agreement on drawing up new sanctions on Iran over its nuclear programme in the next few days.

The report on ABC News described the defection as “an intelligence coup,” and claimed that information gleaned from debriefing Dr Amiri had added detail and confirmation to existing CIA intelligence assessments about the Iranian nuclear programme. It also increased the growing international pressure on Tehran.

Dr Amiri, a nuclear scientist at Tehran’s Malek Ashtar University, went missing in June last year three days after arriving in Saudi Arabia for the annual haj. Details of his disappearance emerged months later when Iran accused the US of abducting him and lodged a formal protest against Washington with the United Nations.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article7082958.ece

Awesome,
that's by far the best approach. Give these guys a research or university position and all the freedom they could ever want.

 

[WHAMPOM]

It will be interesting to see how this plays out. Especially for those of you who honestly believe that Iran should be allowed to have nuclear weapons!
It will also mbe interesting to see how this plays out for those of you who swear that iran ONLY has peaceful intents for the nuclear program!!

Read on....there is a shit load of information in all 3 articles!!

Shahram Amiri Defects To US: Missing Iranian Nuclear Scientist Helping CIA, Reports ABC News

AP) WASHINGTON — An Iranian nuclear scientist who had been reported missing since last summer has defected to the U.S. and is assisting the CIA in its efforts to undermine Iran's nuclear program, ABC News reported Tuesday.

The scientist, Shahram Amiri, has been resettled in the U.S., according to the report.

The CIA had no comment on the report, a spokesman said.

President Barack Obama said Tuesday he hopes international sanctions against Iran for pursuing its nuclear ambitions will be in place this spring. Iran maintains that its nuclear research is for peaceful purposes and not to develop weapons.

Amiri, who worked at Tehran's Malek Ashtar University, an institution closely connected to Iran's Revolutionary Guard, disappeared last June while in Saudi Arabia on a pilgrimage. While his disappearance led to speculation that he had defected and was assisting the West in its efforts to keep track of Iran's nuclear program, the foreign minister for Iran accused the U.S. of helping to kidnap him.

Citing people briefed on the intelligence operation, ABC News said Amiri's disappearance was part of a long-planned CIA operation to persuade him to defect. The CIA reportedly approached Amiri in Iran through an intermediary who made an offer of resettlement on behalf of the United States, ABC News said.

Amiri has been extensively debriefed since his defection, according to the report, and has helped to confirm U.S. intelligence assessments about the Iranian nuclear program.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/30/shahram-amiri-defects-to-_n_519437.html


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--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Iranian scientist defects: US covert ops hurt Iran nuclear program

Istanbul, Turkey
An Iranian nuclear scientist who disappeared while on a religious pilgrimage to Saudi Arabia last year is reported to have defected to the United States and been briefing the CIA on Iran’s controversial nuclear program.

News's report on Shahram Amiri is a rare public revelation on a long-running covert intelligence effort led by the United States.

Sources briefed on the continuing CIA operation told ABC that Mr. Amiri’s defection was “an intelligence coup” in American attempts to damage and better understand Iran’s controversial nuclear program.

“Amiri’s disappearance was part of a long-planned CIA operation to get him to defect,” ABC reported. “The CIA reportedly approached the scientist in Iran through an intermediary who made an offer of resettlement on behalf of the United States.” Amiri “helped confirm US intelligence assessments” about Iran’s nuclear work.



“Iran has by now enough trained operators and scientists that it would be impossible to decapitate the program by persuading the leading scientists to defect or otherwise making them disappear,” says Mark Fitzpatrick, a nuclear nonproliferation expert at the International Institute for Strategic Studies in London. “But in any fledgling nuclear weapons program, there are a small number of key scientists who can make the critical breakthroughs,” Mr. Fitzpatrick told the Monitor.

President Barack Obama on Tuesday said he wanted to quickly see a fourth round of UN sanctions imposed upon Iran, because Iran has not yet been able to convince the UN’s nuclear watchdog agency that it aims only for peaceful energy production. “I’m interested in seeing that regime in place in weeks,” Mr. Obama said after meeting French President Nicolas Sarkozy in Washington.

Building diplomatic momentum for more sanctions was the top agenda item for G-8 foreign ministers meeting in Canada. In their final communiqué on Tuesday, they agreed to “remain open to dialogue” with Tehran but “reaffirmed the need to take appropriate and strong steps” to demonstrate resolve.

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Midd...fects-US-covert-ops-hurt-Iran-nuclear-program

---------------------------------------------------------------------------

From The Times April 1, 2010

Defection of Iranian nuclear scientist Shahram Amiri ‘a CIA coup’

An Iranian nuclear scientist who disappeared while on pilgrimage to Mecca last year has defected to the United States and is living and working there for the CIA, it was reported yesterday.

Revelations about Shahram Amiri’s defection came as the US and five other world powers, including China, were said to have reached agreement on drawing up new sanctions on Iran over its nuclear programme in the next few days.

The report on ABC News described the defection as “an intelligence coup,” and claimed that information gleaned from debriefing Dr Amiri had added detail and confirmation to existing CIA intelligence assessments about the Iranian nuclear programme. It also increased the growing international pressure on Tehran.

Dr Amiri, a nuclear scientist at Tehran’s Malek Ashtar University, went missing in June last year three days after arriving in Saudi Arabia for the annual haj. Details of his disappearance emerged months later when Iran accused the US of abducting him and lodged a formal protest against Washington with the United Nations.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article7082958.ece

DeJa Vue all over again with the CIA announcing defectors bringing news of Iranian nuclear weapon production, Saddam's WMD program, soldiers shooting Zoo animals and trashing incubators in Kuwait, etc.

 

[alien42]

if this story wasn't bizarre enough...

"Washington (CNN) -- Shahram Amiri -- an Iranian nuclear scientist Tehran claimed was kidnapped by U.S. agents -- is leaving Washington Tuesday night for Iran, a diplomatic source has told CNN.

Amiri, who is a researcher from Tehran's Malek Ashtar University, mysteriously disappeared in June 2009 while on a religious pilgrimage to Saudi Arabia, according to Iranian media reports.

The Iranian government has accused the United States of involvement in Amiri's disappearance, with Iran saying the researcher was taken to force him to give up data about Tehran's nuclear program.

A top Iranian lawmaker recently claimed that newly found documents back up Tehran's claims that the CIA is responsible for Amiri's disappearance, Iranian media reported Sunday. Javad Jahangirzadeh, a member of Iranian parliament's National Security and Foreign Policy Commission, said Iranian officials had turned over the documents to the Swiss ambassador in Tehran.

The U.S. State Department has denied that charge. A U.S. official, who is not authorized to talk to the media about such issues, told CNN last month that it would be "ludicrous, absurd and even preposterous" to claim an individual was kidnapped by the United States and held against his will.

Last month, two videos surfaced on the Internet of a man claiming to be Amiri, in which he said he had escaped from U.S. agents and was hiding in Virginia.

That was the third time that videos allegedly showing Amiri had been circulated on the Internet.

In one, he said he had been kidnapped by U.S. agents. Another contradicted that claim and said he was living freely and studying in Arizona.

In one of the videos posted June 30 on YouTube and dated June 14, the man again said that he was brought against his will to the United States and fears he will be discovered and re-arrested.

"I am Shahram Amiri, the son of the Islamic Republic of Iran, who with God's help succeeded in running away from the U.S. security agents in the state of Virginia. I am [temporarily] at a safe place and I am trying to do this video but it is quite possible that I may shortly be again arrested by American security agents."

He went on to say: "I am not free here and not allowed to contact my family or other people. If I face any problems or if I do not return to my country soon, the government of the U.S. would be directly responsible for it."

CNN could not independently verify the authenticity of the videos, nor the identity of the man in them.

"If he is who people think he is, the U.S. would be in contact with the person," a CIA official said last month. And if he were being held against his will, "how would he have been able to produce any of the videos?" the official said.

In the second video that surfaced June 30 and dated June 23, the man claiming to be Amiri reassures his family about his well-being.

"I want to let my beloved family know that I am OK and they should not worry about my health," he says. "With God's help I shall return to my beloved country in the next few days. I want them to be, as always, strong and patient and to pray for my safe return. I hope to see you in our beloved country."

Tehran blamed Washington for Amiri's disappearance shortly after revelations surfaced that Iran has been building a second uranium enrichment facility near the city of Qom. After that, tensions over Iran's nuclear program mounted.

Iran claims its nuclear energy is solely for civilian purposes. But the United States has pushed the United Nations to punish Tehran for its nuclear ambitions. The Security Council recently slapped a fourth round of tough sanctions on the Islamic republic.

It is unclear how much information Amiri was privy to in Iran."

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/07/13/iranian.researcher/

whatever actually happened, it will definately make a great movie someday.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Many turncoats will have second thoughts when they realize that they are giving up everything that is familiar and that they have.

Also, it is possible that there were pressures on the family.

It is easier to claim to be kidnapped by a hated regime than state that you were looker at the greener pasture.

 

[Jhhnn]

In any case, the US ends up with egg on its face...

 

[soccerballtux]

If they want peaceful nuclear, then give them Thorium.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWUeBSoEnRk&playnext_from=TL&videos=5gYE9LyiHvE

 

[HeXploiT]

Hows it going to play out? How did it play out when Khayr Allah Talfah returned to Iraq?

It will be the same story here.

 

[palehorse]

In any case, the US ends up with egg on its face...

How so?

You must be under the silly impression that what you've read about this incident, both in the papers and on the interwebz, is true.

That's cute.

 

[Jhhnn]

How so?

You must be under the silly impression that what you've read about this incident, both in the papers and on the interwebz, is true.

That's cute.

Not at all. If the Bushistas taught us anything, it's that the truth doesn't matter- it's all about manipulating perception. Putting positive spin on this will be well nigh impossible.

 

[palehorse]

Not at all. If the Bushistas taught us anything, it's that the truth doesn't matter- it's all about manipulating perception. Putting positive spin on this will be well nigh impossible.

It seems they've certainly been successful in manipulating your perceptions of this entire incident.

Good stuff!