Iran making missiles that could hit Europe

[jlmadyson]

The National Council of Resistance of Iran (NCRI), which has in the past given accurate information on some of Iran's nuclear facilities, said Tehran was working on missiles with a range of 2,500 to 3,000 km (1,600 to 1,900 miles), capable of hitting cities such as Berlin.

CNN

 

[GrGr]

A variation of the 45 minutes to mushroom clouds claim. How refreshing. Be afraid, be very afraid.

 

[Aimster]

This is nothing new. The Shab-3 can already reach Europe and Iran has been working on the Shab-4 Shab-5 for years now.

 

[GrGr]

What is new is that this clearly is part of a propaganda campaign against Iran. The US is turning up the heat. Since when are claims by NCRI newsworthy to the Liberal Media?

 

[MoFunk]

Originally posted by: GrGr
What is new is that this clearly is part of a propaganda campaign against Iran. The US is turning up the heat. Since when are claims by NCRI newsworthy to the Liberal Media?

We just need to leave Iran alone. They have done nothing wrong. They are a peace loving country with absolutely NO ties to terrorism. This is just another ploy by that evil Bush guy to keep war mongering. The only reason they want to nukes is for them to defend themselves against bad people.

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: MoFunk

Originally posted by: GrGr
What is new is that this clearly is part of a propaganda campaign against Iran. The US is turning up the heat. Since when are claims by NCRI newsworthy to the Liberal Media?

We just need to leave Iran alone. They have done nothing wrong. They are a peace loving country with absolutely NO ties to terrorism. This is just another ploy by that evil Bush guy to keep war mongering. The only reason they want to nukes is for them to defend themselves against bad people.

Well according to the U.S any middle eastern person with a gun is a terrorist .. so....

 

[Passions]

Originally posted by: MoFunk

Originally posted by: GrGr
What is new is that this clearly is part of a propaganda campaign against Iran. The US is turning up the heat. Since when are claims by NCRI newsworthy to the Liberal Media?

We just need to leave Iran alone. They have done nothing wrong. They are a peace loving country with absolutely NO ties to terrorism. This is just another ploy by that evil Bush guy to keep war mongering. The only reason they want to nukes is for them to defend themselves against bad people.

Sure, whatever you say, Michael.

 

[jlmadyson]

Originally posted by: Passions

Originally posted by: MoFunk

Originally posted by: GrGr
What is new is that this clearly is part of a propaganda campaign against Iran. The US is turning up the heat. Since when are claims by NCRI newsworthy to the Liberal Media?

We just need to leave Iran alone. They have done nothing wrong. They are a peace loving country with absolutely NO ties to terrorism. This is just another ploy by that evil Bush guy to keep war mongering. The only reason they want to nukes is for them to defend themselves against bad people.

Sure, whatever you say, Michael.

If I could tell the American people one thing...There is no terrorist threat. There is no terrorist threat.

:laugh:

 

[GrGr]

Originally posted by: MoFunk

Originally posted by: GrGr
What is new is that this clearly is part of a propaganda campaign against Iran. The US is turning up the heat. Since when are claims by NCRI newsworthy to the Liberal Media?

We just need to leave Iran alone. They have done nothing wrong. They are a peace loving country with absolutely NO ties to terrorism. This is just another ploy by that evil Bush guy to keep war mongering. The only reason they want to nukes is for them to defend themselves against bad people.

How fortunate then that we have this Great Warlord ready come rescue us from evildoers and bearded men. Sir Bush of the Chickenhawk Shield, whose armor is littered with nukes, thermobaric bombs, carrier fleets etc., pray come save us from the heathens. Bomb them, O Bush, Bomb them. They have nasty thougths. Bomb them.

If thou, O Bush, shouldst mark iniquites, who shall stand?

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: MoFunk

Originally posted by: GrGr
What is new is that this clearly is part of a propaganda campaign against Iran. The US is turning up the heat. Since when are claims by NCRI newsworthy to the Liberal Media?

We just need to leave Iran alone. They have done nothing wrong. They are a peace loving country with absolutely NO ties to terrorism. This is just another ploy by that evil Bush guy to keep war mongering. The only reason they want to nukes is for them to defend themselves against bad people.

Pegged the meter perfectly 😀

 

[Trente]

Originally posted by: MoFunk

Originally posted by: GrGr
What is new is that this clearly is part of a propaganda campaign against Iran. The US is turning up the heat. Since when are claims by NCRI newsworthy to the Liberal Media?

We just need to leave Iran alone. They have done nothing wrong. They are a peace loving country with absolutely NO ties to terrorism. This is just another ploy by that evil Bush guy to keep war mongering. The only reason they want to nukes is for them to defend themselves against bad people. :roll:

Fixed it for ya.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: jlmadyson
Topic Title: Iran making missiles that could hit Europe

Cool 😎 , we don't have any Allies over there anymore anyway <Shrugs>

 

[Kadarin]

Well, if Iran ever does lob a few missiles over at Europe, perhaps the Europeans will finally wake up to the fact that Islam is a threat to Western civilization.

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Well, if Iran ever does lob a few missiles over at Europe, perhaps the Europeans will finally wake up to the fact that Islam is a threat to Western civilization.

Well according to your logic then the west is doomed since Europe will be 50% Muslim in about 50-60 years.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Well, if Iran ever does lob a few missiles over at Europe, perhaps the Europeans will finally wake up to the fact that Islam is a threat to Western civilization.

Well according to your logic then the west is doomed since Europe will be 50% Muslim in about 50-60 years.

Where did you get that from? I think Europe is expected to have a good Muslim population, but not a 50% Muslim population.

 

[43st]

Originally posted by: jlmadyson

The National Council of Resistance of Iran (NCRI), which has in the past given accurate information on some of Iran's nuclear facilities, said Tehran was working on missiles with a range of 2,500 to 3,000 km (1,600 to 1,900 miles), capable of hitting cities such as Berlin.

CNN

Oooo, let me guess... Do they also have rape rooms, mass graves, WMD, and oil? 😛

 

[DealMonkey]

Lemme know when the nukes can reach U.S. soil and I can be truly concerned. Until then it's only "Old Europe and the Chocolate Makers" that are in any danger. 😉

 

[jlmadyson]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Lemme know when the nukes can reach U.S. soil and I can be truly concerned. Until then it's only "Old Europe and the Chocolate Makers" that are in any danger. 😉

:laugh:

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Lemme know when the nukes can reach U.S. soil and I can be truly concerned. Until then it's only "Old Europe and the Chocolate Makers" that are in any danger. 😉

What about Poland?

 

[Genx87]

Where did you get that from? I think Europe is expected to have a good Muslim population, but not a 50% Muslim population.

With a negative birth rate among white christians. Europe will be forced to immigrate peoples from Africa and the ME to keep their economy going.

It is estimated by 2060 over 1 billion people will live in the region and 280 million of them will be native christians.

The question the Europeans need to ask. When the Islamic theocracies are erected in the middle of Europe and they impose Sharia law and oppress christians.

Will it be too late for them to do anything?

I guess we could see the last migration of Europeans to the US about then.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Where did you get that from? I think Europe is expected to have a good Muslim population, but not a 50% Muslim population.

With a negative birth rate among white christians. Europe will be forced to immigrate peoples from Africa and the ME to keep their economy going.

It is estimated by 2060 over 1 billion people will live in the region and 280 million of them will be native christians.

The question the Europeans need to ask. When the Islamic theocracies are erected in the middle of Europe and they impose Sharia law and oppress christians.

Will it be too late for them to do anything?

I guess we could see the last migration of Europeans to the US about then.

Oh, well if you're assuming massive influx of Muslim immigrants to prop up their economies, then that may be plausible. However, I doubt that they would do that since they already are complaining about such a small minority.

I suppose they'll have to do some serious restructuring by then.

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Well, if Iran ever does lob a few missiles over at Europe, perhaps the Europeans will finally wake up to the fact that Islam is a threat to Western civilization.

Well according to your logic then the west is doomed since Europe will be 50% Muslim in about 50-60 years.

Where did you get that from? I think Europe is expected to have a good Muslim population, but not a 50% Muslim population.

I read it in the washington post and on cnn. They said that around 2050-2080 the Muslim population in Europe will be around 50% of the total population. Already in France we see a 10-20% Muslim population. Other countries have a high Muslim population % as well.

I didn't read this link well, but here is a quote:
http://www.danielpipes.org/article/1796

An anemic birth rate. Indigenous Europeans are dying out. Sustaining a population requires each woman on average to bear 2.1 children; in the European Union, the overall rate is one-third short, at 1.5 a woman, and falling. One study finds that, should current population trends continue and immigration cease, today's population of 375 million could decline to 275 million by 2075.To keep its working population even, the E.U. needs 1.6 million immigrants a year; to sustain the present workers-to-retirees ratio requires an astonishing 13.5 million immigrants annually.

 

[Genx87]

Oh, well if you're assuming massive influx of Muslim immigrants to prop up their economies, then that may be plausible. However, I doubt that they would do that since they already are complaining about such a small minority.

They will be required to if they want to continue economic growth. N Africa and ME are heavily Islamic regions. The chances are the majority of the people who migrate will be Islamic. And once you get the majority of the population it is possible to change the internals of a govt.


The groundwork is being laid today with all the fundamentalists plotting terrorist action in Europe. The Spain bombings are just a prelude.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Well, if Iran ever does lob a few missiles over at Europe, perhaps the Europeans will finally wake up to the fact that Islam is a threat to Western civilization.

Well according to your logic then the west is doomed since Europe will be 50% Muslim in about 50-60 years.

Where did you get that from? I think Europe is expected to have a good Muslim population, but not a 50% Muslim population.

I read it in the washington post and on cnn. They said that around 2050-2080 the Muslim population in Europe will be around 50% of the total population. Already in France we see a 10-20% Muslim population. Other countries have a high Muslim population % as well.

I didn't read this link well, but here is a quote:
http://www.danielpipes.org/article/1796

An anemic birth rate. Indigenous Europeans are dying out. Sustaining a population requires each woman on average to bear 2.1 children; in the European Union, the overall rate is one-third short, at 1.5 a woman, and falling. One study finds that, should current population trends continue and immigration cease, today's population of 375 million could decline to 275 million by 2075.To keep its working population even, the E.U. needs 1.6 million immigrants a year; to sustain the present workers-to-retirees ratio requires an astonishing 13.5 million immigrants annually.

I believe France has a Muslim population of about 8-12%.

I think those projections for 2050-2080 are assuming massive immigration from mainly Muslims. As it is right now, many European countries don't have a Muslim population of the size of France's and having a population of 50% would have to imply massive immigration of mainly Muslims and nothing else.

Europe will have to do some serious thinking about their economic issues, especially since a good portion of them are clamoring about stopping immigration.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Oh, well if you're assuming massive influx of Muslim immigrants to prop up their economies, then that may be plausible. However, I doubt that they would do that since they already are complaining about such a small minority.

They will be required to if they want to continue economic growth. N Africa and ME are heavily Islamic regions. The chances are the majority of the people who migrate will be Islamic. And once you get the majority of the population it is possible to change the internals of a govt.


The groundwork is being laid today with all the fundamentalists plotting terrorist action in Europe. The Spain bombings are just a prelude.

One thing that I'm curious about is aren't many of the Muslim immigrants in Europe poor? If Europe needs to bring in more immigrants, wouldn't they need to bring in highly skilled immigrants instead to fuel their social economic machine?