Iran making missiles that could hit Europe

[Genx87]

One thing that I'm curious about is aren't many of the Muslim immigrants in Europe poor? If Europe needs to bring in more immigrants, wouldn't they need to bring in highly skilled immigrants instead to fuel their social economic machine?

I cant tell you that right now as the population hasnt started to die off yet. But when it does over the next 10-20 years where do you think they will get people to replace the people who died of old age?

Not many from the US are going to bother making the trip and the easiest source of people are in the local regions such as North Africa and the ME.

Right now with a negative birth rate it will catch upto Europe and they will have to deal with it. Whether through migration or tryng to get people to give birth.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: Genx87

One thing that I'm curious about is aren't many of the Muslim immigrants in Europe poor? If Europe needs to bring in more immigrants, wouldn't they need to bring in highly skilled immigrants instead to fuel their social economic machine?

I cant tell you that right now as the population hasnt started to die off yet. But when it does over the next 10-20 years where do you think they will get people to replace the people who died of old age?

Not many from the US are going to bother making the trip and the easiest source of people are in the local regions such as North Africa and the ME.

Right now with a negative birth rate it will catch upto Europe and they will have to deal with it. Whether through migration or tryng to get people to give birth.

I'm fully aware of their birth problems and need of future immigrants to sustain their social institutions, but I think it's a pretty big assumption to say that Europe will be bringing in massive amounts of Muslim immigrants and make their population 50% Muslim within 50 years. Europeans are already going crazy over immigration; I don't think they're going to increase Muslim immigration, even if it is to their detriment.

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Well, if Iran ever does lob a few missiles over at Europe, perhaps the Europeans will finally wake up to the fact that Islam is a threat to Western civilization.

Well according to your logic then the west is doomed since Europe will be 50% Muslim in about 50-60 years.

Where did you get that from? I think Europe is expected to have a good Muslim population, but not a 50% Muslim population.

I read it in the washington post and on cnn. They said that around 2050-2080 the Muslim population in Europe will be around 50% of the total population. Already in France we see a 10-20% Muslim population. Other countries have a high Muslim population % as well.

I didn't read this link well, but here is a quote:
http://www.danielpipes.org/article/1796

An anemic birth rate. Indigenous Europeans are dying out. Sustaining a population requires each woman on average to bear 2.1 children; in the European Union, the overall rate is one-third short, at 1.5 a woman, and falling. One study finds that, should current population trends continue and immigration cease, today's population of 375 million could decline to 275 million by 2075.To keep its working population even, the E.U. needs 1.6 million immigrants a year; to sustain the present workers-to-retirees ratio requires an astonishing 13.5 million immigrants annually.

I believe France has a Muslim population of about 8-12%.

I think those projections for 2050-2080 are assuming massive immigration from mainly Muslims. As it is right now, many European countries don't have a Muslim population of the size of France's and having a population of 50% would have to imply massive immigration of mainly Muslims and nothing else.

Europe will have to do some serious thinking about their economic issues, especially since a good portion of them are clamoring about stopping immigration.

You're right: http://www.islamicpopulation.com/europe_islam.html.

 

[Genx87]

I'm fully aware of their birth problems and need of future immigrants to sustain their social institutions, but I think it's a pretty big assumption to say that Europe will be bringing in massive amounts of Muslim immigrants and make their population 50% Muslim within 50 years. Europeans are already going crazy over immigration; I don't think they're going to increase Muslim immigration, even if it is to their detriment.

Where will they get the manpower then?

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: Genx87

I'm fully aware of their birth problems and need of future immigrants to sustain their social institutions, but I think it's a pretty big assumption to say that Europe will be bringing in massive amounts of Muslim immigrants and make their population 50% Muslim within 50 years. Europeans are already going crazy over immigration; I don't think they're going to increase Muslim immigration, even if it is to their detriment.

Where will they get the manpower then?

Well there are always other countries. Guess they should start popping out some babies soon.

 

[imported_Condor]

Originally posted by: MoFunk

Originally posted by: GrGr
What is new is that this clearly is part of a propaganda campaign against Iran. The US is turning up the heat. Since when are claims by NCRI newsworthy to the Liberal Media?

We just need to leave Iran alone. They have done nothing wrong. They are a peace loving country with absolutely NO ties to terrorism. This is just another ploy by that evil Bush guy to keep war mongering. The only reason they want to nukes is for them to defend themselves against bad people.

That cave is both deep and dark! I'll bet it smells bad too!

 

[imported_Condor]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Where did you get that from? I think Europe is expected to have a good Muslim population, but not a 50% Muslim population.

With a negative birth rate among white christians. Europe will be forced to immigrate peoples from Africa and the ME to keep their economy going.

It is estimated by 2060 over 1 billion people will live in the region and 280 million of them will be native christians.

The question the Europeans need to ask. When the Islamic theocracies are erected in the middle of Europe and they impose Sharia law and oppress christians.

Will it be too late for them to do anything?

I guess we could see the last migration of Europeans to the US about then.

A positive birth rate is very easy to achieve. Just be stupid when you are fuxing! Negative birth rates are not a natural wonder, but a plan. Something the third world just can't seem to grasp.

 

[Drift3r]

I wonder how many nation have ceased to be because of projected downfall of birth rates. I keep hearing people say that this nation or that nation won't be around if they can't raise their birth rate but I have a feeling that things change and in the end it all balances out.

 

[chrisms]

Luckily Europe has missiles that can hit Iran.

 

[raildogg]

Originally posted by: MoFunk

Originally posted by: GrGr
What is new is that this clearly is part of a propaganda campaign against Iran. The US is turning up the heat. Since when are claims by NCRI newsworthy to the Liberal Media?

We just need to leave Iran alone. They have done nothing wrong. They are a peace loving country with absolutely NO ties to terrorism. This is just another ploy by that evil Bush guy to keep war mongering. The only reason they want to nukes is for them to defend themselves against bad people.

uhh kid. get your facts straight

Iran is the leading terrorist sponsoring nation the world, and they dont nothing wrong??? Its harboring terrorists and has been for many years.

Lets not even go into how it supports the hezbollah and other terrorist groups that attack Israel.

 

[raildogg]

you all need to hear the John Batchelor show on 10 PM (eastern time).

www.wabcradio.com

you will learn so much, especially the ignorant ones here

 

[raildogg]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Genx87

One thing that I'm curious about is aren't many of the Muslim immigrants in Europe poor? If Europe needs to bring in more immigrants, wouldn't they need to bring in highly skilled immigrants instead to fuel their social economic machine?

I cant tell you that right now as the population hasnt started to die off yet. But when it does over the next 10-20 years where do you think they will get people to replace the people who died of old age?

Not many from the US are going to bother making the trip and the easiest source of people are in the local regions such as North Africa and the ME.

Right now with a negative birth rate it will catch upto Europe and they will have to deal with it. Whether through migration or tryng to get people to give birth.

I'm fully aware of their birth problems and need of future immigrants to sustain their social institutions, but I think it's a pretty big assumption to say that Europe will be bringing in massive amounts of Muslim immigrants and make their population 50% Muslim within 50 years. Europeans are already going crazy over immigration; I don't think they're going to increase Muslim immigration, even if it is to their detriment.

this thread is about Iran's missle and its implications. How did this subject get into this?

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Genx87

One thing that I'm curious about is aren't many of the Muslim immigrants in Europe poor? If Europe needs to bring in more immigrants, wouldn't they need to bring in highly skilled immigrants instead to fuel their social economic machine?

I cant tell you that right now as the population hasnt started to die off yet. But when it does over the next 10-20 years where do you think they will get people to replace the people who died of old age?

Not many from the US are going to bother making the trip and the easiest source of people are in the local regions such as North Africa and the ME.

Right now with a negative birth rate it will catch upto Europe and they will have to deal with it. Whether through migration or tryng to get people to give birth.

I'm fully aware of their birth problems and need of future immigrants to sustain their social institutions, but I think it's a pretty big assumption to say that Europe will be bringing in massive amounts of Muslim immigrants and make their population 50% Muslim within 50 years. Europeans are already going crazy over immigration; I don't think they're going to increase Muslim immigration, even if it is to their detriment.

this thread is about Iran's missle and its implications. How did this subject get into this?

Someone said that Europe will be 50% Muslim in 50 years and we discussed it.

 

[MoFunk]

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: MoFunk

Originally posted by: GrGr
What is new is that this clearly is part of a propaganda campaign against Iran. The US is turning up the heat. Since when are claims by NCRI newsworthy to the Liberal Media?

We just need to leave Iran alone. They have done nothing wrong. They are a peace loving country with absolutely NO ties to terrorism. This is just another ploy by that evil Bush guy to keep war mongering. The only reason they want to nukes is for them to defend themselves against bad people.

uhh kid. get your facts straight

Iran is the leading terrorist sponsoring nation the world, and they dont nothing wrong??? Its harboring terrorists and has been for many years.

Lets not even go into how it supports the hezbollah and other terrorist groups that attack Israel.

No I have my facts straight, this was a tongue in cheak post to mimick some of the liberal BS I read here. I know very well what Iran is all about. Check out my sig. That page www.62596.com shows exactly what Iran is about. I support the war in Iraq, but I feel we should have taken Iran down first! This is no where near what I really wanted to say regarding the "propoganda campaign against Iran" drivil.

What I think most of the "liberals" of this board and any other liberal board for that matter miss, is that the governments of places like Iraq and Iran want nothing more then to cut the head off the enemy infidel, (that would be non-muslims world wide and especially in the US, for you narrow minded blue staters). They torture and kill there own people. Not Abu Grahib style, we are talking true REAL torture. And they can't wait to do it to you and your family. Call me a paranoid neo-con if you must, but someday I hope you all drop to your knees and praise God that someone found the strength to fight this fight and keep these savages from killing your children!

Believe all the BS propoganda that you want, but I for one THANK GOD that we are making a stand.

 

[raildogg]

Originally posted by: MoFunk

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: MoFunk

Originally posted by: GrGr
What is new is that this clearly is part of a propaganda campaign against Iran. The US is turning up the heat. Since when are claims by NCRI newsworthy to the Liberal Media?

We just need to leave Iran alone. They have done nothing wrong. They are a peace loving country with absolutely NO ties to terrorism. This is just another ploy by that evil Bush guy to keep war mongering. The only reason they want to nukes is for them to defend themselves against bad people.

uhh kid. get your facts straight

Iran is the leading terrorist sponsoring nation the world, and they dont nothing wrong??? Its harboring terrorists and has been for many years.

Lets not even go into how it supports the hezbollah and other terrorist groups that attack Israel.

No I have my facts straight, this was a tongue in cheak post to mimick some of the liberal BS I read here. I know very well what Iran is all about. Check out my sig. That page www.62596.com shows exactly what Iran is about. I support the war in Iraq, but I feel we should have taken Iran down first! This is no where near what I really wanted to say regarding the "propoganda campaign against Iran" drivil.

What I think most of the "liberals" of this board and any other liberal board for that matter miss, is that the governments of places like Iraq and Iran want nothing more then to cut the head off the enemy infidel, (that would be non-muslims world wide and especially in the US, for you narrow minded blue staters). They torture and kill there own people. Not Abu Grahib style, we are talking true REAL torture. And they can't wait to do it to you and your family. Call me a paranoid neo-con if you must, but someday I hope you all drop to your knees and praise God that someone found the strength to fight this fight and keep these savages from killing your children!

Believe all the BS propoganda that you want, but I for one THANK GOD that we are making a stand.

oops lol sorry. my slow mind didnt take it that way