If the United States says they are going to attack like they did with Iraq for months before they did .... then why shouldn't they attack first?
I thought the conservatives here would eat some humble pie when our 'patented pre-emptive attack' strategy gets copied by the real bad guys but instead, they're encouraging Iran & Co. to attack? You folks seem to forget that pre-emptive violence was more of a joke tactic until our own president preached to the world that it was one of the most effective techniques there are.
And Israel is gonna start WWIII. All it takes is a loose cannon and an irrational alliance
And Israel is gonna start WWIII. All it takes is a loose cannon and an irrational alliance
It is a little perplexing that Bushophiles couldn't see this coming. Israel attacked Iraq. US attacks Iraq. Both under the auspices that Iraq poses an imminent threat (Israel had a point, Bush was FOS). Is it really all that surprising that Iran views roughly 150k US troops in Central Asia/Middle East as a "real" threat?
Personally, I think pre-emption is BS regardless of who advocates it. It would be different if "pre-emption" meant diplomacy. These ugly people (Sharon, Bush, Shamkhani) mean "I'm gonna kill some people before they kill me" . . . are just practicing macho BS. Their behavior pre-empts nothing . . . it just guarantees interminable conflict.
Also notice the 70.000 or so US troops that will be free pretty soon.
Things that make you go hmmm
Things that make you go hmmm
Who said anything about invading Iran?
Mossad will take out the nuclear sites while IAF takes out missle launching sites located there.
This will take place in the future to come. Recently Iran "admitted" going after the bomb; the west can not allow it to fall to the wrong hands... Israel will have to take action since it is most threatened by Iran.
Mossad will take out the nuclear sites while IAF takes out missle launching sites located there.
This will take place in the future to come. Recently Iran "admitted" going after the bomb; the west can not allow it to fall to the wrong hands... Israel will have to take action since it is most threatened by Iran.
which Iran has said it will respond to
and guys.... if Iran gets "the bomb" it wont use it, ever, its a defensive weapon to prevent the US from invading Iran
viivo
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Personally, I don't care. If they want it for security, they can go all out. But hasn't this debate in the past been over not whether Iran should have the ability to produce a nuclear weapon, but if they are capable of securing it so terrorists can't get to it?
It's gonna take the Iranians a while to replace the Sovs. Saying it is one thing, actually doing it is another, obviously. Of course you guys must also realize that this is essentially already written scenario. I'm not a real spiritual guy, but it's weird how things seem to be shaping up in teh World lately.
Saying it is one thing, actually doing it is another, obviously. Of course you guys must also realize that this is essentially already written scenario. I'm not a real spiritual guy, but it's weird how things seem to be shaping up in teh World lately.Originally posted by: arsbanned
It's gonna take the Iranians a while to replace the Sovs.
its weird but very predictable
You are all novice people if you think Iran has no intention to hurt Israel. once getting the bomb Iran will be able to let Hizbulla act as a loose canon and fire rockets all over northern Israel. a retaliation needs to cut-off Hizbulla supply and so Iran is in the picture again - but with a mad man in its leadership, Iran could react with nuclear response to Israeli retaliation towards it. couldn't you figure that out by yourself? :frown:
But my efforts will, as always, go to vain as you people tend to favour Iran - a country with freaks controlling it, rather Israel which is democratic and it is this "palestinian issue" that makes it look so bad in the eyes of the world. there are many reports about the fact that Israel avoids hurting the life of innocent palestinians but none seem to get through world media. IDF soldiers get killed themselves in the process of making sure no innocent gets hurt in a very complicated urban fighting, but no one gives a damn!
America kills so many innocent people in Iraq to avoid losses and the world media is not focusing at that at all - it is biased, as awlays! :|
Would you mind sharing the other 2/3 with me and the rest of the forum members? Back that up, else your response is worthless; I stick with my say.
I can't and you know it.
But i can do soemthing else, like stating that Iran has never ever been a threat to Israel and will not be in the future either. That there are many things that Isreael should consider before going to far with ehe wall.
SA has a LARGE number who oppose the wall, so wo Syria and even Pakistan. It is a big finger in the face of the major arab states, and while i might find it amusing i at the same time find it stupid.
Call me cautious if you wish, but i would rather see a peaceful Israeli state than a constant warfare.
The wall, well i am german, we tore down our wall, one day your kids and mine might tear down the Isreaeli wall and spend a few minutes thinking of those who died because they were stupid.
Besides religious laws how is Iran not a democratic state? Israel controls its media so much for a free country eh?
Aimster, you are a complete IGNORANT for even thinking of saying that, STFU!
In Israel I can say whatever I want about ANYTHING. there is FREE PRESS. YOU DO GET REPOTS all over the place. NO ONE CONTROLLS ISRAELI MEDIA THEY CAN SAY WHATEVER THEY WANT AND ASK POLITICIANS TO ANSWER HARD QUESTIONS, NOT LETTING THEM GET AWAY. Is it possible in Iran? HELL NO!
Are you joking? besides religious laws? that's like saying: besides ordering the murder of ANY innocent jew, besides leading your army into nations that had no intention to attack you, besides bringing total destruction to your own people, how is Hitler not a great leader?
In Israel I can say whatever I want about ANYTHING. there is FREE PRESS. YOU DO GET REPOTS all over the place. NO ONE CONTROLLS ISRAELI MEDIA THEY CAN SAY WHATEVER THEY WANT AND ASK POLITICIANS TO ANSWER HARD QUESTIONS, NOT LETTING THEM GET AWAY. Is it possible in Iran? HELL NO!
Are you joking? besides religious laws? that's like saying: besides ordering the murder of ANY innocent jew, besides leading your army into nations that had no intention to attack you, besides bringing total destruction to your own people, how is Hitler not a great leader?
Unfortunanly this is very true, that is why most Jews know nothing about the past, how Israel was defended, the refugee camps, how parts of the population of arab countries were slaughtered, that is why they still believe Sharon is some kind of war hero, and that the IDF does only good things.
But hey, this jew says ok, it is tough now, but let's not make it any worse, whadda ya say we tear this stupid wall down and have a party?
I wish it was that easy.
XMan
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To say that nations will pre-emptively attack because of George W. Bush is the stupidest f*cking thing I've ever read on this forum - and that's saying a lot. German invasion of the Sudetenland? Pearl Harbor, anyone? Nations have been preemptively attacking other nations for as long as civilization has been existed. It didn't just spring into existence because the evil neocon President Bush decided to do it to Iraq.
Where do you get your information from? Israel does not BAN certain films or newspapers? Yeah, Ok.
You are way too right wing Israeli and have no idea what is going on.
In Iran you can say whatever you want. You can be Jewish and nobody is going to cut your head off. I suggest maybe you step inside the country first before you open your mouth. Do you even know anything about Iran other than what the media is feeding you? People protest in Iran daily over the acts of their government and they do not get shot or hung or killed. They elect their leaders and you can deny that all you want, but that is true. Iran has a Jewish members in its council and recognizes the Jewish faith.. I suggest you stop kissing your Sharoon's ass and get to the facts.
You also mentioned above Iran said it is going for the bomb. I have yet to see any U.S/Europian media have this information. Show me where you got this information that Iran is going for the bomb.
Yeah, I want to see the US allowing one-sided reporters gaining access to delicate places where urban fighting is held so that they can create an invalid, untrue and extremly biased report against its interests.
Should I even start mentioning Iran here?
Should I laugh or cry after reading this retarted post?
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laugh and cry about it all you want. People speak against the government in Iran on a daily basis. There are protest there and nobody gets shot or killed.
What do you even know about Iran? You don't know anything about it.
Have you even see pictures of Iran at least?
Number of countries that have labeled Iran as being a terrorist country:
Israel
United States
name the others if you can....
As for calling my post retarded you have no facts just your assumptions.
You sound like a 14 year old kid who would love nothing more than to bomb the entire middle east because your race/religion whatever you label yourself as is superior to the world.
What do you even know about Iran? You don't know anything about it.
Have you even see pictures of Iran at least?
Number of countries that have labeled Iran as being a terrorist country:
Israel
United States
name the others if you can....
As for calling my post retarded you have no facts just your assumptions.
You sound like a 14 year old kid who would love nothing more than to bomb the entire middle east because your race/religion whatever you label yourself as is superior to the world.
You are so wrong on so many levels. Iran funds terror and that is a fact given by the world's most advanced secret organizations, including your own CIA.
If it were not for the US you would not even know how good it is to live in a western society, as in Iran you are pretty much limited on many aspects and most likly live in poor conditions.
All I ask for is to live in peace. I could not care less for Iran and the people of it, as long as they let me and my country live in peace. but they do not - on the contrary - they actually make efforts in bringing terror to Israeli soil instead of focusing on building their own society and people, letting them enjoy the so much needed values of freedom and peace every other human being in a western country has...
If it were not for the US you would not even know how good it is to live in a western society, as in Iran you are pretty much limited on many aspects and most likly live in poor conditions.
All I ask for is to live in peace. I could not care less for Iran and the people of it, as long as they let me and my country live in peace. but they do not - on the contrary - they actually make efforts in bringing terror to Israeli soil instead of focusing on building their own society and people, letting them enjoy the so much needed values of freedom and peace every other human being in a western country has...
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