iPhone users, don't you find the single button very limiting?

[Puddle Jumper]

Are you talking about in the Contacts list or in an e-mail?

In Contacts, if you tap the address, it launches the maps app. If you tap and hold the address, you get the option to copy the entire address.

In an e-mail, if you tap the address, it launches the maps app. If you tap and hold the address, you get the option to 1) open the maps app, 2) Add to Contacts or 3) copy the entire address.

MotionMan

On Android you can chose from a list of apps to launch using an address, you aren't forced to use copy paste to get the address into another app.

You can do that with pictures.

MotionMan

That doesn't help much if the files you want to attach aren't pictures.

 

[MotionMan]

On Android you can chose from a list of apps to launch using an address, you aren't forced to use copy paste to get the address into another app.

I am not sure what you mean. Can you link to a screenshot of this?

(You do not need to copy/paste to use Maps.)

MotionMan

 

[ChAoTiCpInOy]

I am not sure what you mean. Can you link to a screenshot of this?

(You do not need to copy/paste to use Maps.)

MotionMan

I think he means, if you want to use another Map application (like TomTom or Mapquest) you would have to select the address and copy it and then open the other Map application paste it in, and then fill out the rest of the information.

 

[Puddle Jumper]

I am not sure what you mean. Can you link to a screenshot of this?

(You do not need to copy/paste to use Maps.)

MotionMan

This is after I touched an address in an email, it's the same for contacts. If I had other map/navigation software installed they would be in the list as well.

On an iPhone I would have to copy/paste the address from the email to use it in MapQuest or any other maps/navigation app.

 

[MotionMan]

That doesn't help much if the files you want to attach aren't pictures.

True. But it is still possible for some files, namely, pictures.

MotionMan

 

[MotionMan]

This is after I touched an address in an email, it's the same for contacts. If I had other map/navigation software installed they would be in the list as well.

I don't have any other map programs on my iPhone. Is that impossible on an iPhone?

MotionMan

 

[Ns1]

That doesn't help much if the files you want to attach aren't pictures.

iPhone users can count on one hand how many times this has been an issue.

with no file management system, it's never an issue =P



that said, I got an android device cuz I thought it was gonna be micro-usb PnP compatible with a file system cuz that's what I saw on my friend's EVO. I was fucking WRONG.

 

[Puddle Jumper]

I don't have any other map programs on my iPhone. Is that impossible on an iPhone?

MotionMan

It's not possible as far as I know.

iPhone users can count on one hand how many times this has been an issue.

with no file management system, it's never an issue =P



that said, I got an android device cuz I thought it was gonna be micro-usb PnP compatible with a file system cuz that's what I saw on my friend's EVO. I was fucking WRONG.

Funny, I emailed two files from my phone this morning.

Is it a Honeycomb/ICS tablet and do you use a Mac? Those devices are plug and play on Windows but OSX does not support MTP out of the box.

 

[NaOH]

Unfortunately, the function to send files and such on the iphone would be nice and it's a bummer it's missing, especially on my iPad. On my phone it's not a problem so much since I just use it to consume data in e-mails out on the field rather than produce data (word documents, etc)

 

[drbrock]

I started with Android 2.2 and ended with 4.0. I was huge android fan boy and thought I would never switch. Altought I got fed up when 4.0 was released. Android promises that there are improvements coming but it always appears to be a skin refresh and nothing really fantastic about it. Still crashes and needs a reboot at least every other day.

I got an iphone 4(craigslist) about 2 months ago after being disappointed with ICS and there is no turning back for me. The iphone just works. You dont need the all the addiotnal buttons because you don't need to mess around with the programs that much.

I get that android doesnt limit you and you can hack it to do different things which I did do alot. However the things I was hacking to get were already on the iphone and implemented better. The phones we buy are phones first and android just does not have it together like iphone does. Most apps are way ahead of anything android has.
Probably due to the fragmentation of android.

Tablets are up in the air for me I had a transformer for about 6 months and sold it. It was fun hacking it but at the end of the day the smoothness of an ipad and the apps just outdo anything android can do. I heard about the flash issue but to be honest I have not ran into any problems once. My browswer crashed all the time on the transformer and no problems so far on iphone.

The biggest drawback is the forced storage for me. It was nice having 32 or 64gb of storage on the cheap and it be removable on android. If ipad changed that it would be game over for me.

For people worried about the map software for iphone you can download waze for free and it is way better than google maps beta. It a combination of google maps that does not crash and trapster. Very well done imho.

 

[Ns1]

Funny, I emailed two files from my phone this morning.

I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but it's not an issue for iPhone users...cuz if it was, then they wouldn't have gotten an iPhone.

Is it a Honeycomb/ICS tablet and do you use a Mac? Those devices are plug and play on Windows but OSX does not support MTP out of the box.

ICS and I have windows @ work and mac at home.

//edit

Thanks, that actually helped. I can PnP into XP but not on OSX. Still can't access the files that I was hoping for, but it's a start.

 

[foghorn67]

Are you talking about in the Contacts list or in an e-mail?

In Contacts, if you tap the address, it launches the maps app. If you tap and hold the address, you get the option to copy the entire address.

In an e-mail, if you tap the address, it launches the maps app. If you tap and hold the address, you get the option to 1) open the maps app, 2) Add to Contacts or 3) copy the entire address.

MotionMan

The map app sucks. I've downloaded Telenav, MotionX Drive and Waze for navigating. You can't choose to open these maps by the link.
Great, I can copy the address. But pasting just causes everything to shoved into the street.
Useless.

 

[Puddle Jumper]

I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but it's not an issue for iPhone users...cuz if it was, then they wouldn't have gotten an iPhone.




ICS and I have windows @ work and mac at home.

//edit

Thanks, that actually helped. I can PnP into XP but not on OSX. Still can't access the files that I was hoping for, but it's a start.

What files did you need to access?

This should let you browse the device on OSX.

http://www.android.com/filetransfer/

 

[Ns1]

What files did you need to access?

This should let you browse the device on OSX.

http://www.android.com/filetransfer/

I was hoping to be able to save my audio recordings (using easy voice recorder) onto the file management system and then pull them directly to my computer using usb. I don't have any music on my device (gplay is pretty cool, i like the polish) so that's probably why I see nothing when I plug my device in.

thanks for the link.

 

[Puddle Jumper]

I was hoping to be able to save my audio recordings (using easy voice recorder) onto the file management system and then pull them directly to my computer using usb.

thanks for the link.

On my Galaxy S2 the recordings get saved to sd/EasyVoiceRecorder/. I don't have a cable on me to try MTP but sd should be the root directory when you are browsing the devices storage from Windows/OSX.

 

[Ns1]

On my Galaxy S2 the recordings get saved to sd/EasyVoiceRecorder/. I don't have a cable on me to try MTP but sd should be the root directory when you are browsing the devices storage from Windows/OSX.

I'm not presented with any directory/file structure at all when I plug it into my computer. Right click/explore does nothing

 

[Puddle Jumper]

I'm not presented with any directory/file structure at all when I plug it into my computer. Right click/explore does nothing

Odd, on the Android site they have screenshots of the OSX utility for browsing Android devices and it appears to be showing the sd directory just like normal. Did you install any drivers for it?

This is all they have on the Samsung site about it.

Connecting & Transferring Files

1. Plug the 30 pin cable into the tablet.
2. Plug the other end of the cable in a USB port.
   • • Tip: Avoid the use of multiport hubs if possible.
       Note: The device will enter MTP Application mode, this is normal.
3. Depending on OS & system settings, an AutoPlay window will appear. Click on Open device to view files.
4. Click on the Phone volume to expose folders.
5. Various folders are now exposed.
   • Photos taken with the tablet's camera will be stored in the /DCIM/Camera directory
   • Videos recorded with the tablet's camcorder will be stored in the Movies directory
   • Email attachments that have been saved to the tablet will be stored in the Download directory
   Notice:- Content that is DRM protected may not be able to be transferred off the tablet. If DRM content is attempted to be moved, it may produce an error or simply won't be useable on the PC.

You could try looking under Wireless and Networks in settimgs and see if there are any options for chaning the USB connection.

 

[Ns1]

re^^

I'm in XP right now.

//edit

HAHAHAHAHAHA I solved my problems. I had to get out of the lock screen to see the system LOLOLOL

thanks for the help. I was wondering why I couldn't even right click/properties.

Interestingly enough, I can see the entire folder structure but inside each folder there are no viewable files. Folder options are set to view hidden as well. I can't copy/paste any files into the device either (paste is greyed out), it's as if the device is locked down.

 

[boomhower]

I don't find it an issue at all. I used Android for a couple years and really liked it. I changed to Apple with the 4S and am not going back. Is it simpler and dumbed done, yeah. Do I find that an issue, nope not at all. The damn thing just works and doesn't crash. Android is many advantages and I completely understand why folks like them. What I don't understand is the bandwagoning and bickering over which is better. Both have there advantages and disadvantages, use what you like.

 

[BoberFett]

that said, I got an android device cuz I thought it was gonna be micro-usb PnP compatible with a file system cuz that's what I saw on my friend's EVO. I was fucking WRONG.

I admit, that is pretty annoying. I blame it more on carriers than on Android though. I have an Optimus V that I plug into my computer and it's recognized as a mass storage device. Couldn't be simpler. My girlfriend's Optimus S however, no such luck. I could be wrong, but it appears to me that is a default feature of Android so I'm assuming Sprint disabled it for some reason.

 

[Ns1]

I admit, that is pretty annoying. I blame it more on carriers than on Android though. I have an Optimus V that I plug into my computer and it's recognized as a mass storage device. Couldn't be simpler. My girlfriend's Optimus S however, no such luck. I could be wrong, but it appears to me that is a default feature of Android so I'm assuming Sprint disabled it for some reason.

You got it the other way. My friends sprint evo is PnP usb out of the box, even to OSX (I'm sure he didn't tweak it cuz he's not like that)

My samsung tab 2 running ICS doesn't act the same way.

 

[BoberFett]

You got it the other way. My friends sprint evo is PnP usb out of the box, even to OSX (I'm sure he didn't tweak it cuz he's not like that)

My samsung tab 2 running ICS doesn't act the same way.

Strange. My Optimus V is running 2.2.1. I just plugged it into my Win7 machine here at work and up pops the USB Mass Storage message. Looking in the applications and running services lists while mass storage is active, nothing jumps out at me as being an aftermarket app providing the storage. And as far as I'm aware, the Virgin Optimus is about as barebones as Android gets, while Sprint customized their Optimus a bit.

I just plugged in my HTC Evo 4G (work phone through Sprint) and I get all kinds of options. Charge only, HTC Sync (syncs contacts and calendar), Disk drive, and USB tethering.

So I'm not sure what to think.

 

[Ns1]

This has now approached comic levels. I believe based on my google searches that I need to enable USB debugging mode to use this device the way I want to.

However, I can't install the necessary drivers because I don't have admin rights to this machine.

 

[AstroManLuca]

Well since I've just started using my One S today, which doesn't have a menu button and thus requires all apps to put a menu button somewhere on the screen, I feel like I've gotten a little taste of what iPhone users get.

Gotta say, it's really no different. I sometimes find myself reaching for a menu button that isn't there, but I've already pretty much gotten used to it.

Any app that isn't ICS-optimized (without an on-screen menu button) gets a virtual menu button added along the bottom edge of the screen (or right edge if you're in landscape). When I first read about this a couple days before the phone arrived, I'll admit I thought I would hate it. But it's not so bad. Most apps aren't even affected.

Thus I think the biggest disadvantage of the iPhone is simply that the screen is kinda small. And I still think I'd have a hard time getting by without third party alternative apps for the keyboard, launcher, browser, etc. I suppose the idea is that the built-in apps are very high quality so you shouldn't need a third party replacement, but I really like having a swiping keyboard and a little more customization.

Still, it's true that for the majority of people, they don't want to have to think about anything, they want their smartphone to work in a way they expect from day 1 without fiddling around. And I get that. On the other hand, this is a tech forum and when your phone is missing such features as USB mass storage, alternative keyboards, or expandable memory, it's at a disadvantage in our eyes.

 

[AstroManLuca]

This has now approached comic levels. I believe based on my google searches that I need to enable USB debugging mode to use this device the way I want to.

However, I can't install the necessary drivers because I don't have admin rights to this machine.

That's weird as hell. I've never encountered a single Android device that was not immediately recognized by a computer upon being plugged in. It's a feature built into Android; you don't need to enable USB debugging and I don't even think you need to install drivers (but I'm not sure on that one). What always happens is, once you plug the phone into a computer, there will be a notification you can click on that will let you enable USB mass storage.

The only time this hasn't worked was when I was using a bad USB cable. One time it was a very old cable and another one looked just like a USB cable but was apparently a charging-only cable that didn't carry data. You've probably already tried a different cable but that's the only thing I can think of that would be causing a problem.