iPhone 5s same screen size?

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VashHT

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Well the nice thing is you can mod software buttons, I've been using PA on my N4 and you can get rid of them completely with the PIE mode it has, if you have hardware buttons they can be modded for different functions but you can't get rid of them for more screen space.
 

vshah

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Aspect ratios aren't hardcoded into iOS. However, some lazy programmers will design their interfaces assuming this is the case.

When the iPhone 5 came out, all I had to do was recompile my apps with the new startup screen and they worked fine in 16:9, 3:2, and 3:4.

does iOS dev have the concept of display independent pixels?
 
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Well the nice thing is you can mod software buttons, I've been using PA on my N4 and you can get rid of them completely with the PIE mode it has, if you have hardware buttons they can be modded for different functions but you can't get rid of them for more screen space.

PIE controls isn't a real replacement for buttons. People tend to like it because it's "cool." But honestly if you want a button, it should be there. I tried on my N4 and it just screws with the screen protector. Even on my N10 which has no protector, it's somewhat useful because of how hard it is to get to the bottom bar, but even then PIE isn't a clean solution. For phones it's far easier to use the soft buttons over the PIE buttons. I see it as a gimmick.

Soft or hard, both are fine, but look at how the N4 does it. Not only do you have soft buttons taking away screen real estate, you have a giant bottom bezel. At least Samsung uses the bezel for hardware buttons.
 

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does iOS dev have the concept of display independent pixels?

I don't think it does. It's either 1x or 2x the pixels, whereas Android it can be any multiplier.

The advantage for iOS is that the scaling is cleaner, but limited.
 

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I always laugh when I see people whip out their Samsung Note, which literally looks like a notepad and it's so big that they have to use two hands and a pen.

That's not a phone. You're just too cheap to buy a phone and a tablet.

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Oh wait i have a Note 2, a Nexus 7, iPad 3.

And i had a iPhone 5 prior to the Note 2.

I always laugh when i see people whip out their Apple iPhone 5, which literally looks like a matchbook and it's so small that they have to pinch their fingers on one hand to hold it.
 

MrX8503

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Oh wait i have a Note 2, a Nexus 7, iPad 3.

And i had a iPhone 5 prior to the Note 2.

I always laugh when i see people whip out their Apple iPhone 5, which literally looks like a matchbook and it's so small that they have to pinch their fingers on one hand to hold it.

It's humorous too to see people use two hands when browsing on the Note.
 

WelshBloke

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It's humorous too to see people use two hands when browsing on the Note.

Why is that humorous?

I've used two hands (one to hold, the other to peck at the keyboard) since touchscreens were put on phones. It has nothing to do with the size of the screen.
 
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Why is that humorous?

I've used two hands (one to hold, the other to peck at the keyboard) since touchscreens were put on phones. It has nothing to do with the size of the screen.

I guess what he's saying is one hand is holding while the other hand interacts with the phone. With smaller phones you can do it all with your thumb. At a certain point the phone becomes too large for your thumb to navigate effectively. The Note is certainly a phone where that happens.
 

WelshBloke

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I guess what he's saying is one hand is holding while the other hand interacts with the phone. With smaller phones you can do it all with your thumb. At a certain point the phone becomes too large for your thumb to navigate effectively. The Note is certainly a phone where that happens.

I'm just wondering why that's humorous that's all.

I can navigate just with my thumb fine, I just prefer to use both hands and have even with smaller phones than iPhones.
 

dbk

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I'm just wondering why that's humorous that's all.

I can navigate just with my thumb fine, I just prefer to use both hands and have even with smaller phones than iPhones.

because unless you use a phone with a tiny screen you can't do it anymore! you can't be special! DUH!
 

cliftonite

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I guess what he's saying is one hand is holding while the other hand interacts with the phone. With smaller phones you can do it all with your thumb. At a certain point the phone becomes too large for your thumb to navigate effectively. The Note is certainly a phone where that happens.

Doesn't happen to me.
 

ControlD

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I'm just wondering why that's humorous that's all.

I can navigate just with my thumb fine, I just prefer to use both hands and have even with smaller phones than iPhones.

Same here. Even with my tiny screened 4S I pretty much use two hands all of the time, at least when surfing or typing. It seems that for some people however one handed navigation trumps every other feature you could possibly list.
 

dbk

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Same here. Even with my tiny screened 4S I pretty much use two hands all of the time, at least when surfing or typing. It seems that for some people however one handed navigation trumps every other feature you could possibly list.

right, it's funny to nickpick when logic dictates that with a bigger screen, one would need two hands... whos to say Apple wont create a wider screen in their next iteration of the iPhone? or does that go against the "Mac-ness" of it? who knows?
 

Oyeve

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It's humorous too to see people use two hands when browsing on the Note.

I find it even more humorous to see people using one hand on their gadgets. "Look at me, I can upload my pic to facebook with one hand! Aint I the bomb?"

The fact is most people use 2 hands on any given gadget. Even the iphone. Yeah, there are some here who will swear they always use on hand all the time. Thats bullshit. Whats the big deal using 2 hands anyway?
 

ControlD

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I find it even more humorous to see people using one hand on their gadgets. "Look at me, I can upload my pic to facebook with one hand! Aint I the bomb?"

The fact is most people use 2 hands on any given gadget. Even the iphone. Yeah, there are some here who will swear they always use on hand all the time. Thats bullshit. Whats the big deal using 2 hands anyway?

I think the whole argument is a little silly honestly. I mean, does anyone use their phone exclusively one handed or two handed? When I am skipping a music track for example, chances are I am doing that one handed. If I am writing an email or surfing the web then I am using two hands. I guess if a phone was made in such a way that I was forced to ALWAYS use only one hand or only two hands that might be a little annoying. I have not had the chance to use a really big phone like a Note, but I have used my wife's Galaxy 3 enough to know that I can still do lots of things with one hand if I have to.
 
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Chiropteran

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The fact is most people use 2 hands on any given gadget. Even the iphone. Yeah, there are some here who will swear they always use on hand all the time. Thats bullshit. Whats the big deal using 2 hands anyway?

You can't fap and surf at the same time if it requires 2 hands to surf.
 

QueBert

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Well the nice thing is you can mod software buttons, I've been using PA on my N4 and you can get rid of them completely with the PIE mode it has, if you have hardware buttons they can be modded for different functions but you can't get rid of them for more screen space.

The nice thing about physical buttons is you don't have to look at the device to use them. I Jailbroke my iPhone 4 and setup my home + volume buttons to where I could do about 8 things without looking at the phone. PIE's interesting but it's a pita to use sometimes. And it's definitely not comparable to an actual button because you can't use it without looking at the screen.
 

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Swype typing with your thumb is not very effective. I rarely use my phone one handed, thumbs are crappy pointing devices.
 

Rakehellion

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I find it even more humorous to see people using one hand on their gadgets. "Look at me, I can upload my pic to facebook with one hand! Aint I the bomb?"

The fact is most people use 2 hands on any given gadget. Even the iphone. Yeah, there are some here who will swear they always use on hand all the time. Thats bullshit. Whats the big deal using 2 hands anyway?

I use one hand. That's kind of the whole reason smartphones are portrait-oriented by default.