iphone 5 speculation thread 413

[Eug]

3.83" iPhone at 960x640 - 301 ppi. (4" might be getting a bit too big physically, but is a possibility. The fact it'd be less than 300 ppi is irrelevant.)
LTE
1 GB RAM
Improved front camera.
32 nm A5X (although I'd prefer some sort of A6, based on quad-core: 2xA15 + 2xA7).

 

[smartpatrol]

3.83" iPhone at 960x640 - 301 ppi. (4" might be getting a bit too big physically, but is a possibility. The fact it'd be less than 300 ppi is irrelevant.)

Hey that's not a bad guess.

Keep in mind that a 16:9 screen at 4" is less screen area than a 3:2 screen at 4". A 3.83" screen would probably offer as much screen real estate as a 4" 16:9 one. (Sorry I'm too lazy to do the math) 😛

 

[Eug]

Hey that's not a bad guess.

Keep in mind that a 16:9 screen at 4" is less screen area than a 3:2 screen at 4". A 3.83" screen would probably offer as much screen real estate as a 4" 16:9 one. (Sorry I'm too lazy to do the math) 😛

Yes, a 3:2" screen at 4" would have more screen area than a 4" 16:9 screen. The former is 7.38 square inches (3.328 x 2.219), and the latter is 6.84 square inches (3.486 x 1.961).

A 3:2" screen at 3.83" would be 6.77 square inches (3.186 x 2.124), so almost as physically big as a 4" 16:9 screen.

However, that doesn't really matter, because of the resolutions one would choose.

A 3:2 screen at 3.83" or even 4" would still be 960x640. Regardless of the size, the 16:9 screen would be 1138x640 or 1152x640 (which is 16.2:9), so more screen resolution.

However, I think Apple will just stick with a 3:2 screen, for simplicity's sake.

 

[sgrinavi]

LTE, larger display, processor speed bump, mac-book air styling, NFC and wireless charging

 

[MrX8503]

Only their graphics chip was. Both the 4 and 4S have less CPU power, RAM, etc.. than phones that predate them by months.

Which the CPU matters almost next to nothing. It may have mattered more to Android since it used CPU cycles to accelerate the UI, but even then Android smartphone performance was horrible. Anything before ICS or the SGSII was a nightmare to use.

 

[Mopetar]

I bet it'll be a iPhone 4S, with an LTE radio. Maybe bump the A5 to 1Ghz. Apple doesn't usually do radical design changes.

I kind of agree. I'm thinking it will actually be called the 4GS, and the biggest feature will be the 4G radio. They might even be waiting for 28nm base bands and other parts just to keep the power low. I won't even be surprised if it's the same design as the 4 and 4S.

If it launches in the summer, it might have a 32nm A5 SoC which lets it clock higher, but if the launch is October again, I wouldn't dismiss a new A6 design, either. The A5X just doesn't make sense to put in a phone.

The screen seems a little more iffy. The rumors where they make the screen taller and get a 9:5 aspect ratio make the most sense from a production point of view. Almost any other solution would change the DPI and require the manufacturers to retool at least part of their production lines, Merely adjusting the aspect ratio would be a much simpler change. However, even that I'm not too sure about.

New killer feature will be whatever mapping software they've been working on for the last few years. Just like the 4S ads focused on using Siri, Apple will want a "cool" feature to associate with their new phone. If nothing else, they'll probably offer navigation, but it seems as though they've been working on it too long to only have that to show, so I expect something else.

What I'd really like to see is if they added some touch capabilities to the home button. I still think they should keep the physical home button, but if they also made it touch sensitive such that swiping across it in different directions (e.g. swiping across it while using the web-browser could switch tabs) caused different effects.

 

[badb0y]

4 inch screen
LTE

is all I want.

 

[dguy6789]

Which the CPU matters almost next to nothing. It may have mattered more to Android since it used CPU cycles to accelerate the UI, but even then Android smartphone performance was horrible. Anything before ICS or the SGSII was a nightmare to use.

So loading speed for the browser, camera, gallery, web pages, and how well apps in general run doesn't matter now? CPU is the most important thing in determining those things. You're also confusing performance(how quick things load and how well things run) with smoothness(how smooth a transition animation when opening an app is). Android has had higher general performance since January 2010. Between then and now that has not changed with any iPhone release.

 

[bearxor]

I'm far more interested in a OS update than I am the hardware.

The next iPhone could have a 4.3" screen, Big.LITTLE processing and a PowerVR SGX600 chip in a thin unibody design but if iOS 6 is looking like more of an incremental change, I'll still be looking around at everything else and wondering if this is the year I bail on Apple.

Now, if iOS 6 can bring some great evolution to device, I won't question another iPhone purchase, even if it's the iPhone 4GS, which is the exact same device as the iPhone 4S but with LTE.

So loading speed for the browser, camera, gallery, web pages, and how well apps in general run doesn't matter now? CPU is the most important thing in determining those things. You're also confusing performance(how quick things load and how well things run) with smoothness(how smooth a transition animation when opening an app is). Android has had higher general performance since January 2010. Between then and now that has not changed with any iPhone release.

I mean, have you used a 4S? I don't have one myself, but a friend does. Everything you talk about is really smooth. Even my 4 just about everything works fine but I do encounter some slight stutter if I have a lot running. But this phone is almost two years old now.

Not saying the CPU doesn't matter, but the software running on the device has a lot to do with it as well and this is an area where I think Apple and Microsoft are streets ahead of Google.

 

[Eug]

4 inch screen
LTE

is all I want.

I want the LTE to be using a new lower power chipset as well. So, I'll update my prediction:

3.83" iPhone at 960x640 - 301 ppi. (4" might be getting a bit too big physically, but is a possibility. The fact it'd be less than 300 ppi is irrelevant.)
LTE, with a low power chipset
1 GB RAM
Improved front camera.
32 nm A5X (although I'd prefer some sort of A6, based on quad-core: 2xA15 + 2xA7).

 

[WelshBloke]

I'm far more interested in a OS update than I am the hardware.

The next iPhone could have a 4.3" screen, Big.LITTLE processing and a PowerVR SGX600 chip in a thin unibody design but if iOS 6 is looking like more of an incremental change, I'll still be looking around at everything else and wondering if this is the year I bail on Apple.

Now, if iOS 6 can bring some great evolution to device, I won't question another iPhone purchase, even if it's the iPhone 4GS, which is the exact same device as the iPhone 4S but with LTE.

What sort of OS update do you want?

 

[MrX8503]

So loading speed for the browser, camera, gallery, web pages, and how well apps in general run doesn't matter now? CPU is the most important thing in determining those things. You're also confusing performance(how quick things load and how well things run) with smoothness(how smooth a transition animation when opening an app is). Android has had higher general performance since January 2010. Between then and now that has not changed with any iPhone release.

Loading time does matter, which the iPhone has beaten Android devices on loading times upon a new iPhone release.

 

[bearxor]

I know you're like 16 and all this hacking stuff is new and exciting but when you're old like us, you reach a point where you just want shlt to work. Apple hardware is not outdated.

A million times this. Back during my early twenties I was all about pimping my shiz. Then, somewhere around 25 or 26, I got old and just didn't feel like fiddling with anything anymore.So when my PPC-6600 broke and Sprint gave me a PPC-6700 as a replacement, I threw that POS against the wall and demanded they give me a Treo 700wx instead, having been impressed with all the reviews that it "just worked". I got it and man did it just work. Beautifully working phone. Still required a little bit of work, but nowhere near the amount I did on the 6700 in the two week I had it. Another reason I bailed on WinMo in 2008 and a current reason I look at Andorid phones and I go... ehhhhh, I don't really know... I know some people can get away with not tinkering just fine but I don't feel like I'm one of them.

I really dig Windows Phone but everytime I use it I go 'it's not anything special. It doesn't do anything for me better than my iPhone does'. A lot of the focus on WP7 seems to be social network integration and I could really just not care less.

 

[MrX8503]

lol, I stopped pimping my shiz when I reached 25 too. I was all about it back in the WinMo days though.

 

[badb0y]

I still pimp my shiz, just not my phone lol

 

[bearxor]

What sort of OS update do you want?

Honestly, I don't know. Everytime I sit down and think 'How could I redesign the iOS UI?' I can't come up with any better solutions.

I don't think throwing all of your apps in a menu or a folder or off to the side is a great solution. They're all still there. I know a lot of people want widgets or something and I can see the appeal but I'd never use it.

But I am tired of looking at rows of icons after 4 years. I'm also tired of having to worry about holding off doing upgrades until I can jailbreak just so I can install BiteSMS. It's way too much work. If iOS 6 looks exactly like iOS 5 but they include some kind of better systems for text messaging (quick reply, PLEASE), I'll jump all over it.

I was also not a fan of MobileNotifier and, thus, am not a huge fan of iOS 5's notification system. I think the Notification Center is a bit of a kludge and ot even really necessary. I do like that Apple has widgets (stocks and weather) and I think that it was more of a test and that we'll see them open the Notification Center to 3rd parties in iOS 6. But I changed my text messages back to the alert style because I just liked it better.

I'd LIKE quick setting toggles for like WiFi/Bluetooth, etc but don't think they're really necessary. iOS does a fantastic job of managing these on its own, I think and the only times I need to toggle them on/off is if I'm having some kind of other connectivity problem. But I just throw it in Airplane mode and then out and it resets everything and that doesn't take but a couple of seconds so it's not a big deal.

I'd like to be able to exclude accounts from the unified inbox, but that's more of a mail.app issue than a iOS issue.

I'd like for the App Store to not throw me out whenever I buy an app. Yes, I know I bought an app, you don't have to show me where it's at. (I think this is aimed at more novice users though so I kind of see the point).

I wish I could remove crap I don't use from the home screens. Like Poof! I could get rid of half of the default icons and I am still able to use them if I search for them.

Speaking of search, I'd like to have search add-ins so that I could like search for something and then be able to select like 'IMDb' and have it open the IMDb app.

One request I did give to Apple through the feedback form was to show a countdown timer on the lock screen. For instance, if I cook steaks, I know exactly how long each person likes theird cooked. So when I go to check where I'm at, I have to turn the phone on, slide to unlock it and can then see the time remaining. I think if you have an active countdown timer you should be able to see it just by waking the device up.

I'm sure there's a bunch of other little things and, as I said, I don't think i really KNOW what I want. I just know I want something a little different.

 

[WelshBloke]

Loading time does matter, which the iPhone has beaten Android devices on loading times upon a new iPhone release.

Link? Not saying youre wrong but it would be interesting to see that, especially if theres a few Android phones in the test with different SOCs.

 

[trmiv]

LTE, bigger screen and free navigation would get me to consider going back to iOS for awhile. But the screen is so big on my Galaxy Nexus, I'm not sure even 4" would be enough now. We'll see what happens.

 

[ponyo]

The part I said I just want shlt to work is the reason why I use Android phone over iPhone or WP7. iPhone works too for basic tasks but it's missing some core functionality I need. Even JB iPhone doesn't have it although it gets close. But then I have to deal with the hassle of waiting on JB and then not being able to upgrade the OS. Which is exactly what I want to avoid.

But for people like my wife, sister, cousin, and other relatives? iPhone all the way. I converted two Apple hating relatives from Android to happy iPhone4s users.

 

[MrChad]

I have a Droid X and I'm seriously considering switching to an iPhone when the new model comes out. There are some nice Android phones out there (like the Galaxy Nexus), but I am very jealous of the stability and battery life of my wife's iPhone 4. I would certainly miss Google Navigation and some of the other nice features, but so far I'm leaning towards a new iPhone (assuming it has LTE and the battery life isn't terrible).

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

I have a Droid X and I'm seriously considering switching to an iPhone when the new model comes out. There are some nice Android phones out there (like the Galaxy Nexus), but I am very jealous of the stability and battery life of my wife's iPhone 4. I would certainly miss Google Navigation and some of the other nice features, but so far I'm leaning towards a new iPhone (assuming it has LTE and the battery life isn't terrible).

I'm pretty sure battery life is bad due to large screens, lte, etc...
Once apple joins the fray expect battery life to suffer as well IMO.

 

[Anubis]

I have a Droid X and I'm seriously considering switching to an iPhone when the new model comes out. There are some nice Android phones out there (like the Galaxy Nexus), but I am very jealous of the stability and battery life of my wife's iPhone 4. I would certainly miss Google Navigation and some of the other nice features, but so far I'm leaning towards a new iPhone (assuming it has LTE and the battery life isn't terrible).

if apple releases a larger phone with LTE they will have similar battery issues unless they magic up some new battery

 

[UDT89]

I have a Droid X and I'm seriously considering switching to an iPhone when the new model comes out. There are some nice Android phones out there (like the Galaxy Nexus), but I am very jealous of the stability and battery life of my wife's iPhone 4. I would certainly miss Google Navigation and some of the other nice features, but so far I'm leaning towards a new iPhone (assuming it has LTE and the battery life isn't terrible).

Same boat exactly. Funny.

 

[VashHT]

I'm hoping for a bigger display and LTE mainly, other things I would like to see are free navigation and a different design than the IP4/s. The biggest thing for me though is a bigger screen, I don't think it's going to happen but I have big hands and the ip4 feels cramped now.

As for OS changes I'd like to see better multitasking with the ability to close background apps, something like multiflow or what maemo had would be cool. Also I'd like to see some widgets or at least shortcuts to things like wifi or bluetooth. I'm using all of this stuff right now being jailbroken but I would like to see it integrated into the OS, I'm they would be less buggy and look better if Apple integrated them.

 

[smartpatrol]

I'm pretty sure battery life is bad due to large screens, lte, etc...
Once apple joins the fray expect battery life to suffer as well IMO.

Apple has always made battery life a big priority. iPhone 4 & 4S run underclocked to save battery, iPad 3 came with a bigger battery so it can have the same battery life as iPad 2, etc. I'd be pretty surprised if iPhone 5 didn't have similar battery life to 4S.