iOS 5 to copy Android, Touchwiz?

[Doboji]

it's like in the ghetto people worship their cars because they have nothing else. the single tech nerd used to worship PC's but its now smartphones. the rest of us with families and kids get iphones or cheap android phones and just use them. who cares what CPU it runs or what the frequency is. it's just a phone

I'm married, with 2 kids I'm still a tech nerd were you always mr. Dull or did your wife just store your hobbies and interests in her dresser next to your balls?

And yes you really did compare tech nerds on a tech forum to "ghetto people". Just wow.

 

[alent1234]

maybe my kids are too young but i get home they want to play with me. few days a week after 10pm i hit the x-box.

i used to build PC's but don't care anymore. same with tinkering with smartphones. the smart people are the ones making the roots and jailbreaks. like the guy who just got the job at apple to code notifications.

people who follow simple instructions to root their phone aren't doing anything intelligent

maybe i've been around tech too long but it's constant hyping, vaporware and scams to get people's money. the tech blogs are the worst journalists you can find and only reprint what the PR departments tell them. in fact the old tech magazines from the 1990's were the same way. and hype the acronym of the day. and i don't believe anything about promised features unless they are in a shipping product and work. Windows 7 is missing features that were promised for XP

 

[purbeast0]

Do you have to be a dev to get it? Or do you have a link to where i can download it? Ill try it out tonight if so...

have to be a dev to get into it and have your device on an approved device list.

 

[Doboji]

Rooting and ROMing is interesting and fun... It's not rocket science, but it's just a hobby not my whole life. My kids are 2 and 9 months... Repeat after me... H o b b y.

And unlike "ghetto people" I'm not putting 10k worth of rims on a 1k car, I'm putting free software on a $200 phone.

 

[MrX8503]

with how well android devices are selling im gonna go with the vast majority of people think battery life is a non issue

....thats why my Android friends complain about battery life...

Android sells because no one cares about BB or WP7, not because battery life is a non issue. My iPhone4 outlasted my friends DroidX while on vacation, I can't imagine the battery life on other Android devices.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

....thats why my Android friends complain about battery life...

Android sells because no one cares about BB or WP7, not because battery life is a non issue. My iPhone4 outlasted my friends DroidX while on vacation, I can't imagine the battery life on other Android devices.

When I was on vacation, my Droid x outlasted my friends IP4. I can't imagine why you people would settle for such an inferior product.

 

[Ns1]

When I was on vacation, my Droid x outlasted my friends IP4. I can't imagine why you people would settle for such an inferior product.

To be fair, evidently it's the only one that's worth a damn.

Of course, in android fashion it required tweaking:

First, we download My Settings and Advanced Task Killer, two free apps that are useful regardless.
Then, we open My Settings, and do the following:
Turn screen brightness to 40%, and turn off auto brightness.
Turn off Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, GPS location, cell location, and auto sync.
Deactivate screen timeout; that is, make sure the screen stays on indefinitely.
In the Web browser, we turn off Flash support and plug-ins.
We placed the phone in an area that was receiving at least 4 bars of service.

http://www.intomobile.com/2010/08/25/droid-x-tops-all-android-superphones-in-battery-life-tests/

 

[Red Storm]

To be fair, evidently it's the only one that's worth a damn.

Of course, in android fashion it required tweaking:

First, we download My Settings and Advanced Task Killer, two free apps that are useful regardless.
Then, we open My Settings, and do the following:
Turn screen brightness to 40%, and turn off auto brightness.
Turn off Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, GPS location, cell location, and auto sync.
Deactivate screen timeout; that is, make sure the screen stays on indefinitely.
In the Web browser, we turn off Flash support and plug-ins.
We placed the phone in an area that was receiving at least 4 bars of service.

http://www.intomobile.com/2010/08/25/droid-x-tops-all-android-superphones-in-battery-life-tests/

Umm, those "tweaks" were for benchmarking the different phones, not anything to do with power saving.

 

[zerocool84]

To be fair, evidently it's the only one that's worth a damn.

Of course, in android fashion it required tweaking:

First, we download My Settings and Advanced Task Killer, two free apps that are useful regardless.
Then, we open My Settings, and do the following:
Turn screen brightness to 40%, and turn off auto brightness.
Turn off Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, GPS location, cell location, and auto sync.
Deactivate screen timeout; that is, make sure the screen stays on indefinitely.
In the Web browser, we turn off Flash support and plug-ins.
We placed the phone in an area that was receiving at least 4 bars of service.

http://www.intomobile.com/2010/08/25/droid-x-tops-all-android-superphones-in-battery-life-tests/

I guess Brian just makes up these numbers. Some of you guys can't even fathom that a phone other than the iPhone 4 could have good battery life.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4424/hp-veer-4g-review-getting-us-excited-for-pre-3/12

 

[Ns1]

Umm, those "tweaks" were for benchmarking the different phones, not anything to do with power saving.

uh..

How We Tested

The test itself is fairly simple. Avram, our tireless Web director, modified the LAPTOP Battery Test we use for notebooks, and created an Android App that does much the same thing: It opens the phone’s Web browser to one of 60 popular Web sites, remains there for 60 seconds, closes the browser, then reopens the browser to next Web site on the list. It does so until the phone’s battery dies, all while recording the time elapsed.

Here’s how we set up the phones before we tested them:

First, we download My Settings and Advanced Task Killer, two free apps that are useful regardless.
Then, we open My Settings, and do the following:
Turn screen brightness to 40%, and turn off auto brightness.
Turn off Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, GPS location, cell location, and auto sync.
Deactivate screen timeout; that is, make sure the screen stays on indefinitely.
In the Web browser, we turn off Flash support and plug-ins.
We placed the phone in an area that was receiving at least 4 bars of service.

To the right is a screenshot of the app on the Droid X, after it completed the test once. Since it’s a new test, we ran it at least twice on each phone and took the average. We know this doesn’t take into account things such as texting, making phone calls, and using multimedia apps, but we feel it gives a fair indication of how long one phone will last compared to another under similar settings.

if those changes weren't made for the sole purpose of battery life...then why make them before testing battery life?

See the need to do said changes here:

Its not an obscure setting to check what services are running and turn down the brightness of the screen. If you don't feel like doing anything to even attempt to improve your battery life, you don't get to bitch about it. If you don't want to tweak your phone to your liking, then stick with an iPhone.

srsly, never ever touched power management in my iPhone.

 

[Red Storm]

Those aren't similar tests from what I can see (AT and the other one, replying to zero). And again, they are only useful if you're looking for a specific set of data, which is not "battery life during normal daily usage." Unless your normal daily smartphone usage consists of reloading webpages over and over with the screen on indefinitely.

I remember simply leaving wifi off and leaving brightness at auto with my Droid X, never had to do anything crazy or use advanced task killer.

 

[Fingolfin269]

One thing I'm glad I was able to be reminded of again after reading this thread...

My EVO's battery life blows.

Thanks guys, like I needed to be reminded!

 

[QueBert]

One thing I'm glad I was able to be reminded of again after reading this thread...

My EVO's battery life blows.

Thanks guys, like I needed to be reminded!

Hay at least our EVO's battery last longer than the Incredible's

I have tried every rom, kernel and app out there, while I've been able to get considerably more battery life out of my EVO. It's still shockingly poor, when I 1st got it I ran it for a few days totally stock. I don't see how anyone could live with it stock.

 

[cheezy321]

have to be a dev to get into it and have your device on an approved device list.

Found another way to do it:
http://lifehacker.com/5809630/how-to-upgrade-to-ios-5-today-without-any-developer-account

Doing it tonight! I'll report my results back later

 

[Fingolfin269]

Hay at least our EVO's battery last longer than the Incredible's

I have tried every rom, kernel and app out there, while I've been able to get considerably more battery life out of my EVO. It's still shockingly poor, when I 1st got it I ran it for a few days totally stock. I don't see how anyone could live with it stock.

That's exactly what happened to me. I remember it running for almost 3 days without a charge shortly after I first got it and now it doesn't even come close to that. I'm sure it's something I did but have no idea what I changed to make it get worse.

 

[Muyoso]

So you are basically saying you have to work and earn your battery life? Now I am starting to understand the mindset of an android user!

EDIT: And you can tweak the iPhone to your liking. Stop acting like this isnt possible.

What I am saying is that if you take a stock Android Phone and a stock iPhone, the iPhone will obviously have better battery life, because it does so much less. If you tweak the Android phone only slightly with a few changes to settings, then you can achieve parity with the iPhone while still doing so much more.

 

[Pliablemoose]

This thread has gone horribly off topic, and as the owner of a handful of Android phones, with dozens of roms and kernels, im calling bs on the claims of massive battery life extension on Android devices, either stock or modded...

 

[MrX8503]

When I was on vacation, my Droid x outlasted my friends IP4. I can't imagine why you people would settle for such an inferior product.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3826/motorola-droid-x-thoroughly-reviewed/18

Under testing the DroidX gets better battery life only under talk time. I trust battery life tests from Anand over anecdotal evidence any day.

This thread has gone horribly off topic, and as the owner of a handful of Android phones, with dozens of roms and kernels, im calling bs on the claims of massive battery life extension on Android devices, either stock or modded...

I owned an EVO before my iPhone4. For the time I did have the EVO I did all the battery tweaks and optimizations and the battery life still sucked. Android users must love having their phones in airplane mode all day or something because I actually use my phone and my EVO never never got good battery life.

 

[ChAoTiCpInOy]

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4424/hp-veer-4g-review-getting-us-excited-for-pre-3/12

 

[Doboji]

This thread has gone horribly off topic, and as the owner of a handful of Android phones, with dozens of roms and kernels, im calling bs on the claims of massive battery life extension on Android devices, either stock or modded...

Well you know what they say... Denial ain't just a river in Egypt. These guys will argue how Android has superior battery life until their blue in the face and blood is coming out their ears. And I'm a huge Android fan...

 

[zerocool84]

Well you know what they say... Denial ain't just a river in Egypt. These guys will argue how Android has superior battery life until their blue in the face and blood is coming out their ears. And I'm a huge Android fan...

I don't remember anyone saying Android had superior battery life, some people can't fathom that something other than Apple can have good battery life.

 

[makken]

you can also always switch out for a higher capacity battery on most android phones. I'm using an 1800mAh battery on my desire-z and it outlasts my sister's iphone4 majority of the time.

 

[YoungGun21]

Hey guys remember when the iphone was the best smartphone on the market?









Yea me neither






http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/tbeas/slowpoke_iphone.png


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[Raduque]

Put a .nomedia file in any folder you want ignored.

unless you have a .nomedia file in the folder, which prevents the system from seeing that folder for ringtones.

I don't want to use .nomedia files because I don't want the folder ignored by anything EXCEPT the music player. If I put a .nomedia in the folder, Android ignores it and I lose my ringtones and notifications.

 

[s44]

I don't want to use .nomedia files because I don't want the folder ignored by anything EXCEPT the music player. If I put a .nomedia in the folder, Android ignores it and I lose my ringtones and notifications.

If you're rooted, just drop those in the appropriate /system/media folder...