Interviews why are Democrats held to a higher standard?

[[DHT]Osiris]

Reminds me of all the Big Fat Liberals I've known who will (not without reason) disparage the Daily Mail, yet pay money for the (almost as right-wing, just sneakier about it) Observer.

Even The Guardian has always been somewhat right-wing (my parents wouldn't have it in the house, for that reason). In fairness, being consciously 'liberal' it tends to make a value of presenting different points-of-view, and thus is one of the only parts of the UK print media that occasionally carries actual leftist voices (it also sometimes carries very right-wing commentators, for the same reason). But it's noticeable that it seems to go through periods where it purges its leftist contributors, and then gradually reacquires some again.

For me, a news org's intent is hidden in it's guest speakers and opinion pieces. Those are the safe spaces to say what they want.

 

[cytg111]

Its not a higher standard, its a different standard.

You might listen to a Trump rally and quickly come to conclusion that the man is a incoherent rambling moron with little grasp of deduction and reality.

But I promise you his audience is receiving and comprehending every single word.

And no they're not a lower lifeform, they're exact copies of you trapped in another set of circumstances.

You need to gr0k this is you are to work with it.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Do you any idea what it's like being a fembot, living in a pitchbot's, pitchputer's world? S3E5 Futurama reference.

It is bizarro world stuff.

"Amazon women in the mood" is the title of the episode one of the GOAT episodes for sure.

 

[eelw]

Yup when Biden started pressing it’s MAGA causing all the problems. They pushed back (just like the “how dare you call us weird”) like how dare you call all people that voted orange monkey a racist, traitorous, white suprematist. Sadly he had to back down and then say he’s only referring to people in political power pushing election interference. Unfortunately no one on the Dem side is willing to condemn all Repugican voters as the reason the US has become worse that a 3rd world country. Like how can any sane person was to support what MAGA represents. At least many of the RINOs that spoke at the DNC did lean into if you don’t vote D this year as a conservative voter, you’re part of the problem.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Point is CNN was hammering Biden/Walz for not doing sit down interviews. Per a brief google search Trump *may* have called into a show 16 fucking months ago. I don’t believe Vance has at all.
Why is there an expectation for Harris to sit down and no expectation for Trump?

Someone please correct me if I am wrong, I cannot find Trump speaking in person at a sit down interview with cnn any time recently. I cannot find Vance ever in person speaking with cnn for a sit down interview.

 

[dank69]

Point is CNN was hammering Biden/Walz for not doing sit down interviews. Per a brief google search Trump *may* have called into a show 16 fucking months ago. I don’t believe Vance has at all.
Why is there an expectation for Harris to sit down and no expectation for Trump?

Someone please correct me if I am wrong, I cannot find Trump speaking in person at a sit down interview with cnn any time recently. I cannot find Vance ever in person speaking with cnn for a sit down interview.

It's pretty simple. CNN is a garbage organization run by garbage human beings.

 

[Moonbeam]

Its not a higher standard, its a different standard.

You might listen to a Trump rally and quickly come to conclusion that the man is a incoherent rambling moron with little grasp of deduction and reality.

But I promise you his audience is receiving and comprehending every single word.

And no they're not a lower lifeform, they're exact copies of you trapped in another set of circumstances.

You need to gr0k this is you are to work with it.

Whoa, Off with his head!

 

[iRONic]

Watching Joy Ried on MSNBC and they are discussing this very subject. One thing Joy pointed out is most of the questions were setups for Trump's arguments. It's just pathetic.

I love how mayor Pete tweaked Faux when he introduced himself to the DNC:

Pete Buttigieg, Joe Biden’s transport secretary, introduced himself to Democrats at their convention earlier last month in unusual fashion. “I’m Pete Buttigieg and you might recognize me from Fox News,” he told the crowd in Chicago.

Why are so many Democratic politicians appearing on Fox News?

As Pete Buttigieg and Bernie Sanders speak on Fox, Democrats could reach just enough swing voters to win

www.theguardian.com

 

[DaaQ]

I have been listening to the Meidas Touch Network more often, especially since the trials.

They give good commentary driven by facts.

Here is link to the interview response.

And here is link the the news page, I suggest looking at the podcast section, it is a large number of Legal professors, attorneys, and Ron Filipkowski I believe is a Senior Editor.

Link to webpage https://meidasnews.com/news

 

[fskimospy]

Its not a higher standard, its a different standard.

You might listen to a Trump rally and quickly come to conclusion that the man is a incoherent rambling moron with little grasp of deduction and reality.

But I promise you his audience is receiving and comprehending every single word.

And no they're not a lower lifeform, they're exact copies of you trapped in another set of circumstances.

You need to gr0k this is you are to work with it.

It is both different and higher. Also, the standard for the media isn't 'can anyone comprehend this guy?' it is 'can the average person comprehend this guy'.

 

[MrPickins]

Do you any idea what it's like being a fembot, living in a pitchbot's, pitchputer's world? S3E5 Futurama reference.

It is bizarro world stuff.

I heard Bea Arthur in my head.

 

[HomerJS]

Its not a higher standard, its a different standard.

You might listen to a Trump rally and quickly come to conclusion that the man is a incoherent rambling moron with little grasp of deduction and reality.

But I promise you his audience is receiving and comprehending every single word.

And no they're not a lower lifeform, they're exact copies of you trapped in another set of circumstances.

You need to gr0k this is you are to work with it.

I'll go with your premise for the sake of my question. Trump was asked if he would order the FDA director to remove Mifepristone from the market. Here is Trump's response...

"You can do things which supplement, absolutely, and those things are pretty open, and humane, but you have to be able to have a vote," Trump said. "All I want to do is give everybody a vote, and the votes are taking place right now as we speak. There are many things on a human basis that you can do outside of that, but you also have to give a vote, and the people are going to have to decide."

I'm asking you will Trump tell the FDA director to remove it or will he not tell him to remove it? The only thing clear to me is he didn't answer the question and there should have been follow up. Dana Bash took efforts to ask follow up questions.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I'll go with your premise for the sake of my question. Trump was asked if he would order the FDA director to remove Mifepristone from the market. Here is Trump's response...



I'm asking you will Trump tell the FDA director to remove it or will he not tell him to remove it? The only thing clear to me is he didn't answer the question and there should have been follow up. Dana Bash took efforts to ask follow up questions.

Exactly. I am getting tired of this type of bullshit.

 

[Moonbeam]

Why wouldn't Democrats not suffer from victim mentality. How fair is it that Democrats who are rational, reasonable, and hold to high moral standards not fall victim to a double standard when their opponents are deplorable in every why. How fair is that. Their own self proclaimed superiority is going to cause them to be judged to a higher standard while scum is just scum and no hypocrisy can exist when they act according to their nature. Nobody is shocked when they don't live up to their phony proclaimed standards. They don't get called deplorable for no reason. Poor poor Democrats, they are supposed to be truthful like me and, hello, you know how people avoid truth like the plague. So Democrats have the worst of all worlds, they can't openly lie nor allow themselves to tell the truth. It's just so unfair.

 

[soulcougher73]

The Dems may want to be held to a higher standard.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

The Dems may want to be held to a higher standard.

Without actively pointing that out it’s a loser standard

 

[cytg111]

I'll go with your premise for the sake of my question. Trump was asked if he would order the FDA director to remove Mifepristone from the market. Here is Trump's response...



I'm asking you will Trump tell the FDA director to remove it or will he not tell him to remove it? The only thing clear to me is he didn't answer the question and there should have been follow up. Dana Bash took efforts to ask follow up questions.

Thats not my angle. I am saying that in order to destroy Trumpism you have to understand Trumpism ... And you will never understand it if you come from a perceived position of superiority. You gotta understand that part of yourself that would end up like him if your circumstances were different. And then kill those circumstances.

 

[pmv]

Its not a higher standard, its a different standard.

You might listen to a Trump rally and quickly come to conclusion that the man is a incoherent rambling moron with little grasp of deduction and reality.

But I promise you his audience is receiving and comprehending every single word.

And no they're not a lower lifeform, they're exact copies of you trapped in another set of circumstances.

You need to gr0k this is you are to work with it.

I'd contest the claim that they are _exact_ copies of me - because past, especially early, circumstances mold people, sometimes -maybe often - in irreversible ways. But I agree that "trapped in another set of circumstances" is a general truth. And it's because people are almost always trapped in different circumstances to each other that conflict - including violent conflict - is an unavoidable feature of human existence.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Now this:
Kamala needs to perform the best she ever has or it’s a failure.

Why does cnn not mention that the former president needs to speak concisely and get to the point or it will be a failure? Why is this article presented as the former president cannot fail only Kamala?

https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/10/politics/harris-crucial-test-debate-analysis/index.html

 

[eelw]

But the orange monkey bar is buried in the ground. So no one has expectations for him to clear it. He could just drool throughout and the base will say he nailed it.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

But the orange monkey bar is buried in the ground. So no one has expectations for him to clear it. He could just drool throughout and the base will say he nailed it.

Point is they did the exact same thing to Biden. Set them up for failure.

 

[fskimospy]

Now this:
Kamala needs to perform the best she ever has or it’s a failure.

Why does cnn not mention that the former president needs to speak concisely and get to the point or it will be a failure? Why is this article presented as the former president cannot fail only Kamala?

https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/10/politics/harris-crucial-test-debate-analysis/index.html

Media organizations have internalized #bothsides because

1) they have internalized baseless Republican criticism of bias
2) it is objectively in their financial interest to keep the race close
3) it is objectively in their financial interest for Trump to win

 

[hal2kilo]

Once again Lawrence O'Donnel nails the double standard. Yea, looking at you NYT.

MSN

 

[BoomerD]

But the orange monkey bar is buried in the ground. So no one has expectations for him to clear it. He could just drool throughout and the base will say he nailed it.

That’s exactly it. Trump is the winner already in the minds of the MAGATS. Nothing he could say or do will change their minds. He could run off to Moscow and blow Vlad, live on tv…and they’d applaud him…or maybe blame the filthy libruls for faking the footage.
Kamala, IF she wants to change the minds of the few remaining right-leaning “normal” voters HAS to come across as decisive and presidential with clear, concise talking points…not blather around, hem and haw, and stumble her way through the interview…and she MUST be prepared, not only for the Q & A portion of the debate, but for the disruptive Trump part as well.
If you remember, in an earlier Trump/Biden debate, even though the mics were muted, Trump wouldn’t shut up…constantly interjecting, trying to tlk over Biden, etc.

 

[fskimospy]

That’s exactly it. Trump is the winner already in the minds of the MAGATS. Nothing he could say or do will change their minds. He could run off to Moscow and blow Vlad, live on tv…and they’d applaud him…or maybe blame the filthy libruls for faking the footage.
Kamala, IF she wants to change the minds of the few remaining right-leaning “normal” voters HAS to come across as decisive and presidential with clear, concise talking points…not blather around, hem and haw, and stumble her way through the interview…and she MUST be prepared, not only for the Q & A portion of the debate, but for the disruptive Trump part as well.
If you remember, in an earlier Trump/Biden debate, even though the mics were muted, Trump wouldn’t shut up…constantly interjecting, trying to tlk over Biden, etc.

I don't think this is correct. Trump's base is insufficient for him to win as shown in 2020. He HAS to appeal to voters outside of his base or he loses yet again.