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dmcowen674
No Lifer
TheGameIs21
Golden Member
I can't believe I am replying to one of your statements and expecting a level headed, logical answer...
If I am at home and I leave my doors propped open to air out the dinner I just burned beyond recognition and someone just walks in and starts to take stuff... That's ok? I'm moving in our out of my home and I have my door propped open to take items in/out without having to put my load down to open the door... That's OK?
It's funny how a few have sided with the guy that KNEW he was doing something unethical/illegal.
dmcowen674
No Lifer
Hello anybody home???
No, this guy did the equivalent of taking the doors off the hinges.
You expect anything to stay out of a house with no doors???
dmcowen674
No Lifer
Par for the course under the Republican agenda, only the rich will be able to afford Internet access.
8-5-2005 FCC Gives Bells Unregulated Internet, Rates to Skyrocket
Consumer advocates criticized the deregulation ? which will take effect after a one-year transition period ? contending it will lead to fewer choices and higher prices for consumers by forcing existing independent broadband providers out of the market.
"What it means is you've got two players, two big market players ? cable and telephone companies ? controlling right now the primary two types of broadband service into the home," said Jeannine Kenney, senior policy analyst for Consumers Union, the publisher of Consumer Reports magazine.
She said consumers may soon be forced into longer-term contracts and arrangements where they have to buy additional services to get high-speed Internet.
8-5-2005 FCC Gives Bells Unregulated Internet, Rates to Skyrocket
Consumer advocates criticized the deregulation ? which will take effect after a one-year transition period ? contending it will lead to fewer choices and higher prices for consumers by forcing existing independent broadband providers out of the market.
"What it means is you've got two players, two big market players ? cable and telephone companies ? controlling right now the primary two types of broadband service into the home," said Jeannine Kenney, senior policy analyst for Consumers Union, the publisher of Consumer Reports magazine.
She said consumers may soon be forced into longer-term contracts and arrangements where they have to buy additional services to get high-speed Internet.
At the very least cable and telcos are competing by the same rules. Cable companies have never been forced to share their infrastructure.
That being said I think we are going see more competition not less. From what I understand SBC has pulled fiber very close to many consumers, but they have not populated the hardware needed to deliever higher speed service to customers as they would have to share that new equipment.
We will see what happens....
And why is high speed internet access a right that needs to be regulated?
assemblage
Senior member
Only the rich being able to afford high speed internet is thoughtless. I live in an area where Bellsouth competes with Comcast. High speed is $40-55 a month. I think it's expensive, but it isn't high enough to be an all inclusive product for the rich. It depends on priorities like just about anything that has to do with finite amount of financial resources. Dial up still works and most public libraries have high speed internet. Anyways, regulation is a liberal thing.
dmcowen674
No Lifer
Most First World Countries consider Internet to be as important as Electricity.
Of course the U.S. is no longer a First World Country by Republican design so you're right, it stands to reason that only the rich deserve to have internet access.
dmcowen674
No Lifer
This is hysterical but sadly so true.
Broadband reports says it may have to change it's name to sbcandcomcastreports.com
U.S. will have no competition, one Compnay for DSL, one Company for cable and high price for access to both.
8-7-2005 When a Duopoly is Called 'Competition'
The future of broadband: a two trick pony?
Dane Jasper, President of the California ISP Association (Cispa) and CEO of Sonic.net, has frequently joked that we may soon have to rename ourselves "SBCandComcastReports.com". With the FCC's recent elimination of DSL regulation, he thinks that day is coming soon - and offers a glimpse of this website in two years.
Broadband reports says it may have to change it's name to sbcandcomcastreports.com
U.S. will have no competition, one Compnay for DSL, one Company for cable and high price for access to both.
8-7-2005 When a Duopoly is Called 'Competition'
The future of broadband: a two trick pony?
Dane Jasper, President of the California ISP Association (Cispa) and CEO of Sonic.net, has frequently joked that we may soon have to rename ourselves "SBCandComcastReports.com". With the FCC's recent elimination of DSL regulation, he thinks that day is coming soon - and offers a glimpse of this website in two years.
dmcowen674
No Lifer
Oh come on, that is a 3 month promotional gimmick :roll:
dmcowen674
No Lifer
OK, so they upped it to a year and then you pay full price.
Gimmick is a gimmick but of course you embrace gimmicktry in the name of the buck at the sacrifice of the U.S.
Well I would much prefer at 2 least vendors cometing in the same arena. Soon the bells will be offering cable services and the cable companies are currently rolling out phone service. So between the bells, cable companies, sat tv and wireless the telecom industry appears to have quite healthy competition.
And it is not impossible for a new guy to get into the market. There is local telecom compnay that is laying it its own fiber. They managed to get several hundred million in venture capital and appear to be doing pretty well.
dmcowen674
No Lifer
Your beloved $15 phoney deal is being investigated, wobder why that is? 😕
8-8-2005 Attorney general opens inquiry into Internet ads
The Missouri attorney general's office says it has opened an investigation into advertisements that promote fast Internet connections at cheap prices. The nationwide ads have attracted millions of Internet customers.
The catch is that the reduced prices are for new customers only. Existing customers pay a lot more for the same high-speed service. Some of them have examined their monthly bills and complained to the state that they are being overcharged.
Scott Holste, a spokesman for Attorney General Jay Nixon, said the investigation involves SBC and other companies that he was not ready to name.
Bailey is a physician dealing with infectious disease at Washington University Medical School. On July 18, he called SBC to say he had seen the company's new ads for service at $14.95 per month. He asked why his rate - $49.95 per month - was so high in comparison.
"We were informed at that time, and for the very first time, that we were receiving SBC's lowest level (slowest) of service at their highest possible 'rack' billing rate," Bailey wrote in complaints to the attorney general and the Better Business Bureau.
Bailey asked for proof that SBC had notified him of his three options. "They stated they could not because (the proof) no longer existed," his complaint says.
Bailey said SBC then offered him a $90 credit "as an attempt to resolve what is clearly a deceptive billing practice." He said the company could not explain its $90 offer except to say that it represents the difference between three months of service at $19.95 per month and the $49.95 per month he had been paying.
Bailey rejected the offer. He calculated that SBC owed him $660 for overcharges since October 2003.
Missouri's fraud laws require that businesses tell consumers "in a conspicuous fashion what the terms of a contract are," says Holste of the attorney general's office.
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SBC has learned lies and deceptions well from the current Federal administration.
Dave, this guy is a loon. When SBC lowered their introductory price, I called in about a week later and was rerated, even though I was an existing customer. I had to commit to another year, but that was it. This guy wants a refund back to when he first got DSL even though the $15.00 rate didn't exist then (the best rate then was $27/mo if you commited to a years service). He'll get the $90.00 they offered him, and nothing more in the end. In fact he'll get the $90.00 minus whatever he's paying his lawyer, ie. he's going to be in the hole just because he wants to make a stink over $570.00 he's not deserving of.
Alright, let's get a straight answer here.
Dave, was it wrong for the man to use an internet connection he wasn't paying for?
Just answer that simple question. No "He couldn't have made it any easier". No "That's to be expected when you're careless." Just that simple question.
SBC has already offered to give this dude the lowest rate and credit him the difference back to the point they changed the rate even though it was only for new users at the time. He thinks he is due the lower rate back another year and a half to where he first signed up even though that rate wasn't available to anyone at the time. I'd tell him to pound sand.
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