Interesting, Mass shootings jumped since Obama has been elected.

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What I'm wondering is where's the hero with a gun? You'd think w/all the guns we have you'd hear of a hero by now.

Happens all the time, problem is it doesnt fit the libtard agenda so the liberal spun media doesnt cover it. One example of MANY, do some research.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...nience-store-owner-kills-robber-gunfight.html

 

[FerrelGeek]

He's trying to lay blame on his perception of what non liberal approved media is. It's all Fox New's, et al's fault.

Not sure what you mean by hate mongering. The media cashes in on mass murders like they do every controversy. The mass murders I'm sure are particularly big sellers of news papers and hits on websites.

In any event, yes, exophase and londo have it about right. Press and social media coverage only amplifies all this because most of these killers want fame.

 

[boomerang]

Yup, thanks Obama for the fact that fewer people are being murdered in the United States now than when he went into office.

Oh wait, he has little or nothing to do with the decline the overall murder rate, just as he has little or nothing to do with the spike in media covered mass murders.

It's sometimes easy to forget that Obama is blameless. Naw, just kidding! How in the hell could I forget when we're all being reminded constantly!

But, if he isn't responsible for media covered mass murders, is he then responsible for the ones the media doesn't cover? This is confusing. I know Obama is responsible for killing Bin Laden but that's all. Right?

The Media's Cover Up of Immigrant Mass Shootings

There's a reason you've never heard of Eduardo Sencion, Kesler Dufrene and Salvador Tapia.

A little snippet.

Here at home, an Oregon Community College was shot up in October -- by a mixed-race, half-black immigrant, Chris Harper-Mercer. Nine people were killed. It's hard to remember every sensational crime, but that was just two months ago.

Last year, another mixed-race immigrant, Elliot Rodger, committed mass murder at a sunny college campus in Santa Barbara, killing twice as many people as Robert Dear did -- in half the time! That seemed like a pretty big story to me, but the media passed over it pretty quickly. The Times has airbrushed it from history.

 

[blankslate]

No idea. But I'm sure Obama being a half-black, terrorist loving, Merica hating, reparations wantin, gun grabbin, death panel promotin, socialist muslim from Kenya has nothing to do with it.

Nope Nope not at all

...move along nothing to see here.




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[MongGrel]

No idea. But I'm sure Obama being a half-black, terrorist loving, Merica hating, reparations wantin, gun grabbin, death panel promotin, socialist muslim from Kenya has nothing to do with it.

:hmm:

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[MongGrel]

Happens all the time, problem is it doesnt fit the libtard agenda so the liberal spun media doesnt cover it. One example of MANY, do some research.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...nience-store-owner-kills-robber-gunfight.html

Just stop with the libtard shit to begin with.

Makes you appear ignorant.

 

[soundforbjt]

Happens all the time, problem is it doesnt fit the libtard agenda so the liberal spun media doesnt cover it. One example of MANY, do some research.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...nience-store-owner-kills-robber-gunfight.html

Wow ! That store clerk stopped a mass killing? Wonder why it wasn't in the article anywhere.

 

[MongGrel]

I'd put it like this: there are at least two apocalyptic visions of extremists in the world at the moment. We have jihadists, and there are certain individuals or factions of evangelical folks eager for the "Rapture."

The jihadists are pushing the buttons of the Christian fundamentalists, who in turn buy in to the idea that this is a "Holy War" between Christian and Muslim. I'd already said it's a bad idea for getting the high-ground in the psychological battlefield to acknowledge any legitimacy to a holy war conception of this.

+10

 

[JSt0rm]

cruz born in canada is ok because he is white. Obama born in kenya is bad because he is black.

 

[-slash-]

Wow ! That store clerk stopped a mass killing? Wonder why it wasn't in the article anywhere.

Yawn.

http://www.goupstate.com/article/20120325/ARTICLES/120329781/1112

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2014/01/masked_gunman_at_mystic_club_d.html

 

[MongGrel]

Yawn.

http://www.goupstate.com/article/20120325/ARTICLES/120329781/1112

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2014/01/masked_gunman_at_mystic_club_d.html

Really not sure what you are trying to accomplish atm, to be honest.

cruz born in canada is ok because he is white. Obama born in kenya is bad because he is black.

Well, that and the fact he was born in Hawaii, of course.

 

[FrankRamiro]

If you want my opinion,too many liberties from the F***** liberals,too much freedom no respect,
the f***** authorities know what's going on and know well these people but can't do nothing cause of the freedom,freedom my ass,if police have these people pinpointed and do not act before these lunatics radicals mother F***** do the job of killing indiscriminate,
shame on f****** libertarians ,Freedom = respect and duties,and you have these F****** libertarians like All Sharpe always speaking out for the Excess force of the Authorities on criminal and murderous and all kind of bad people, and always diminish police work,and DNR always protecting gun owner and protecting a easy way to get a gun,against reliable background checks and so on,the Americans that vote on these Politicians that are bought by NRA and get huge sums of money for their campaigns so they get infiltrate in the Senate to pass laws so it makes it easy to sell their guns. should not complain ,they have what they deserve.

 

[zinfamous]

Good thing Obama didn't take away their guns!

oh wait, I mean: Yes! Another thing that is obviously Obama's fault!

 

[zinfamous]

If you want my opinion,too many liberties from the F***** liberals,too much freedom no respect,
the f***** authorities know what's going on and know well these people but can't do nothing cause of the freedom,freedom my ass,if police have these people pinpointed and do not act before these lunatics radicals mother F***** do the job of killing indiscriminate,
shame on f****** libertarians ,Freedom = respect and duties,and you have these F****** libertarians like All Sharpe always speaking out for the Excess force of the Authorities on criminal and murderous and all kind of bad people, and always diminish police work,and DNR always protecting gun owner and protecting a easy way to get a gun,against reliable background checks and so on,the Americans that vote on these Politicians that are bought by NRA and get huge sums of money for their campaigns so they get infiltrate in the Senate to pass laws so it makes it easy to sell their guns. should not complain ,they have what they deserve.

this guy. this guy right here.

he gets.....something.

 

[Moonbeam]

I'd put it like this: there are at least two apocalyptic visions of extremists in the world at the moment. We have jihadists, and there are certain individuals or factions of evangelical folks eager for the "Rapture."

The jihadists are pushing the buttons of the Christian fundamentalists, who in turn buy in to the idea that this is a "Holy War" between Christian and Muslim. I'd already said it's a bad idea for getting the high-ground in the psychological battlefield to acknowledge any legitimacy to a holy war conception of this.

You don't want to fight the war defined by the extremist looney-toons. You want to define the conflict according to your own terms.

It just looks as though the jihadists are now copy-catting the domestic lunatics like Lanza and Holmes -- and Dear. That's pretty lame, if you ask me.

Also, somebody may have discounted my remark of a possibility that the Christmas party venue was significant. But it could be just so.

Christmas has always been an intersection between our religious life and secular holiday traditions. It's "Christian." But it was always common practice in offices -- government and private -- to hold a "holiday party." The one time in the year that I'd need to hail a cab to get home, with a lingering buzz-on from the egg-nog.

What better target would these amateur wannabe jihadists choose? The wife of a victim had noted her husband had engaged in exchanges with Farook in which he expressed frustration about "good Muslims" stepping up to the plate and denouncing the nut-cases.

It only bothers me that hardly a few weeks ago, here on the forums, I'd said that terrorists value big-city or high-value targets, and the Inland Empire -- a vast suburban sprawl -- has little in that regard. And now . . . the jihadists have "come home to roost."

So, as much as I don't want to make someone's light-bulb go on with a bad idea, the bad idea is probably already lit up.

In this episode of the "Grinch who stole Christmas," the Grinch doesn't seem funny. Pathetic? To me, perhaps. Does the public think these people are pathetic?

The best way to teach people to hate themselves is to teach them they are evil. The best way to teach people they are evil is by perverting the one tool that good created to counteract that feeling of evil, religion. Once you can convince people they are evil and that their salvation from that evil is to make everybody else as equally evil as they are by making them think exactly the same, you can have your crusades where monsters go kill monsters so we can all be saved. Self hate is unconscious and a death wish. It has great faith in the reality of the apocalypse because it already happened in childhood. It is the belief in the good, that we know what the good is, that will kill the human race.

We have met the enemy and it is our selves in the form of self hate. It is very difficult, unbelievably difficult to know that everything you hate is what we were made to feel we are.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

And have easy access to guns.

Which totally did not exist prior to Obama's term, of course.

(Not that I'm saying Obama is directly or even indirectly responsible for a surge in mass-shootings.)

 

[Jhhnn]

In any case, it all sells more guns. Huge amounts of FUD sent sales soaring when Obama was elected. Any sort of incident like Ferguson sends sales up with more FUD. Mass shootings do the same thing, spreading the FUD. All the other FUD in America & the anomie created by extreme rhetoric pushes susceptible individuals over the edge in widely publicized incidents creating more FUD & more sales with more susceptible individuals being among the buyers, of course.

When makers sell more guns they give more money to the NRA which is just an advertising firm for more gun sales with more FUD as their method of choice.

Overlay that with glorification of gun violence in entertainment to round out the picture.

Can't figure it out? You don't have to. Just buy more guns.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

Actually, they've spiked since Hugo drax began posting. Coincidence? I think not.

 

[JSt0rm]

If you want my opinion,too many liberties from the F***** liberals,too much freedom no respect,
the f***** authorities know what's going on and know well these people but can't do nothing cause of the freedom,freedom my ass,if police have these people pinpointed and do not act before these lunatics radicals mother F***** do the job of killing indiscriminate,
shame on f****** libertarians ,Freedom = respect and duties,and you have these F****** libertarians like All Sharpe always speaking out for the Excess force of the Authorities on criminal and murderous and all kind of bad people, and always diminish police work,and DNR always protecting gun owner and protecting a easy way to get a gun,against reliable background checks and so on,the Americans that vote on these Politicians that are bought by NRA and get huge sums of money for their campaigns so they get infiltrate in the Senate to pass laws so it makes it easy to sell their guns. should not complain ,they have what they deserve.

you should hang out with zork man. This stream of consciousness is right up his alley.

 

[sandorski]

2008 Recession + paranoia of a Black President + fear of Gun confiscation + numerous runs on buying Guns/Ammo due to previous point + constant paranoia reinforcement from RW Media + RW moving further Right + LW moving further Left + numerous Social issues being addressed and going to the Left + related to previous point, the RW's influence of the past 3 decades is dramatically waning + the War on Terror continues with no end in sight and continues to result in related terrorist acts Domestically and on Allies = a rattled Society where certain members become susceptible to rash actions.

There is just too much shit going on and instead of people coming together to improve things, they are choosing just to split into groups and constantly antagonize other groups.

 

[JSt0rm]

There is just too much shit going on and instead of people coming together to improve things, they are choosing just to split into groups and constantly antagonize other groups.

20,000 years ago thats how we rolled. I blame education and lack of self awareness.

 

[Fenixgoon]

I think that all media and social media exposure plays a role in amplifying it, regardless of what the tone is. And these elements are a lot stronger than they were 7 years ago.

If you commit a mass shooting in America it will be talked about in tremendous volume. Not just on the news but there will be many articles about it and everyone will be saying things about it on Twitter and various other social media sites, along with comments sections and forums.

This gives stronger incentive to people who want to send out a political message, want to make people afraid, or simply want to become infamous.

Some social psychosis have suggested and documented this - the more a mass shooting is talked about, the more likely another one will occur (generally within 2 weeks). It's been analyzed in the sense of mob rioting - there are some people who will join a riot if they see 1 person busting stuff, and there are others who will only join if they see 99 people busting stuff.

Point being, the more airtime all of this gets, the more likely it is to occur.

 

[WelshBloke]

Interesting, Mass shootings jumped since Obama has been elected.

:hmm: Has anyone checked on Spidey recently?

 

[MongGrel]

you should hang out with zork man. This stream of consciousness is right up his alley.

You almost made me spit beer.

:thumbsup:

 

[WelshBloke]

you should hang out with zork man. This stream of consciousness is right up his alley.

Only if he splits it into 24 separate posts and puts his name at the bottom of each one.