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Interesting map of Iraq

Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Someone care to make a similar map of the US?
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ah ... im sure it would be blank with repsect to the 664 rocket/mortar fire, 272 RPGs, 39 hand grenades, 40 vehicle bombs and 27 land mines. The point is the Iraqi people appear to dislike their liberators. Maybe its the razor wire that surrounds their cities or the lootings of the citizens by bandits after the US disarms the citizens.

And the small arms numbers for the US... We have about 1500 deaths a month due to small arms per month. This includes all deaths, Police, Accidents, Suicides, Homocides. Given our larger population you need to compare densities;therefore, Iraqi population is ~20mil and the US is ~295mil we see that there are ~26 attacks per 100 thousand in Iraq and 0.5 deaths per 100 thousand in the US.
 
ah ... im sure it would be blank with repsect to the 664 rocket/mortar fire, 272 RPGs, 39 hand grenades, 40 vehicle bombs and 27 land mines.
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wouldn't you blame the NRA not having it's way for that?
 
Originally posted by: Smithy
Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Someone care to make a similar map of the US?
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ah ... im sure it would be blank with repsect to the 664 rocket/mortar fire, 272 RPGs, 39 hand grenades, 40 vehicle bombs and 27 land mines. The point is the Iraqi people appear to dislike their liberators. Maybe its the razor wire that surrounds their cities or the lootings of the citizens by bandits after the US disarms the citizens.

And the small arms numbers for the US... We have about 1500 deaths a month due to small arms per month. This includes all deaths, Police, Accidents, Suicides, Homocides. Given our larger population you need to compare densities;therefore, Iraqi population is ~20mil and the US is ~295mil we see that there are ~26 attacks per 100 thousand in Iraq and 0.5 deaths per 100 thousand in the US.
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How about a map of Iran then? Or Iraq before the war?
 
Originally posted by: conjur
Why? Why don't you create one and start a separate thread?
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Originally posted by: Todd33
I think we need a similar map of Poland and Iceland too.
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Ah, two trolls all buddy-buddy. Makes me feel all warm and cozy inside. :roll:

This map has an obvious purpose: propaganda. Without any source of comparison, that's all it is. Are Iceland and Poland similar to Iraq? Doubt it. Do I have the capabilities of the NY Times to make such a map of other countries? No. :cookie::cookie: One for each of you.
 
Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Originally posted by: conjur
Why? Why don't you create one and start a separate thread?
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Originally posted by: Todd33
I think we need a similar map of Poland and Iceland too.
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Ah, two trolls all buddy-buddy. Makes me feel all warm and cozy inside. :roll:

This map has an obvious purpose: propaganda. Without any source of comparison, that's all it is. Are Iceland and Poland similar to Iraq? Doubt it. Do I have the capabilities of the NY Times to make such a map of other countries? No. :cookie::cookie: One for each of you.
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How was my post "trolling"? Care to explain?
 
Originally posted by: conjur
How was my post "trolling"? Care to explain?
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You posted a question knowing the answer, intending only to be inflammatory. As I said, obviously an individual doesn't have the capabilities to make such a map. So, you're either a troll or an idiot. Take your pick.
 
Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Originally posted by: conjur
How was my post "trolling"? Care to explain?
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You posted a question knowing the answer, intending only to be inflammatory. As I said, obviously an individual doesn't have the capabilities to make such a map. So, you're either a troll or an idiot. Take your pick.
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You're the one who ventured off-topic. What was the point of your post, eh?
 
Originally posted by: conjur
You're the one who ventured off-topic. What was the point of your post, eh?
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As if it weren't obvious, and as if I hadn't already posted it, I'll post it again.
This map has an obvious purpose: propaganda. Without any source of comparison, that's all it is
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Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Originally posted by: conjur
You're the one who ventured off-topic. What was the point of your post, eh?
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As if it weren't obvious, and as if I hadn't already posted it, I'll post it again.
This map has an obvious purpose: propaganda. Without any source of comparison, that's all it is
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<ahem>

Your first post in this thread:

Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Someone care to make a similar map of the US?
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Care to explain that or were you just trolling?


Oh wait...your second post:

Originally posted by: CycloWizard
How about a map of Iran then? Or Iraq before the war?
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Ayup...you're a troll. You've even admitted to being one.
 
I've identified the source of the violence in Iraq: roads/highways are way too accessible and handy. We need to bomb all roads immediately. If you look at the map, there's hardly any violence in Iraq where there isn't a handy road nearby. Stupid roads.
 
Also, major cities (e.g. Baghdad, Mosul, Kirkuk, and others) seem to be magnets for violence. We need to bomb those too. Until they're flat. With no cities and no roads to fuel the violence, freedom will be the Iraqis only option.
 
Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Originally posted by: conjur
How was my post "trolling"? Care to explain?
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You posted a question knowing the answer, intending only to be inflammatory. As I said, obviously an individual doesn't have the capabilities to make such a map. So, you're either a troll or an idiot. Take your pick.
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Personally, I'd award both titles to you, along with "bleating Bush apologist" for good measure. You're the one who tried to divert any hint of criticism from your feckless leader by suggesting violence in the U.S. is in some way comparable to violence in Iraq. It's not, not in the slightest, not in any way, shape, or form, and for you to suggest otherwise is assinine.

The map is a simple expression of facts. Facts. If you think those facts are hurtful to King George, then maybe you should extract your head from his posterior and think about why that is. Sometimes the truth hurts. You can either accept it and get on with your life, or you can cower in fear and try to deny it. I find it repugnant that you care more about GWBush -- one man -- than you do about America and our men and women in Iraq.

:disgust:
 
Originally posted by: RSaylors
wouldn't you blame the NRA not having it's way for that?
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Since I have already stated the stats for small arms in the US it follows that their wouldn?t be a similar number of attacks in the US by these explosive weapons should they be available. Attacks sure but fewer. As far as the NRA, they do not desire legislation to allow RPGs, landmines, grenades, machine guns, ect. Assault weapons perhaps, but assault weapons essentially are high magazined rifles which fire one round per trigger pull. Reading what constitutes an assault weapon may clear this up for you if you need it. Too much TV for RSaylors, I think. Try reading the post next time, some legislation, NRA objectives, and taking an English class (due to your post).

 
Originally posted by: CycloWizard
This map has an obvious purpose: propaganda. Without any source of comparison, that's all it is
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Propaganda toward what end? It's not intended to show that Iraq is a dangerous place (though I think that's a fairly noncontroversial assertion), but to show that insurgent attacks are spread all over the country. It was prepared using data from a private firm that provides security consulting services to businesses operating in Iraq, using data provided by US and Iraqi security forces.

It would be as meaningless to compare it to prewar Iraq, as it would be to compare it to Greenland, or British Guyana. It's relevant to showing the situation in Iraq today, not what was present two years ago.

I think I liked you better under your old identity.
 
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