Originally posted by: Lemon law
Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: CallMeJoe
Originally posted by: winnar111
Lyndon Johnson opposed civil rights as a Senator in the 50s...
...and championed them as president in the 1960s, despite the opposition of the Dixiecrat wing of his own party.
Well, yeah, the entire point was to impede progress so he had an election platform of his own making to run on. Kind of like the leftwingers who were cheering the death of our troops in the 70s and again in 2004 with Iraq.
It worked, didn't it?
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On what big hogwash winnar111 has, when it was the youth of the nation that mainly opposed the Vietnam war. And who better to pander to that opposition than Mr. GOP himself, Richard Nixon, who adopted the McGovern peace plan, renamed it peace with honor, and it was Nixon that cut and ran as fast as he could, after failing to deliver a victory as promised in his first term.
No responsible peace advocates in the 1960 or 70's rooted for the death of American troops, and no responsible anti Iraq war advocates roots for the death of American troops now. But antiwar types, then and now, still advocate less bloody ways to settle conflicts, because an military occupation imposed by brute force never works. And that lesson should have been learned from Vietnam.
And if winnar111 advocates that critics of the conduct of wars like Vietnam or Iraq are unpatriotic, he is an idiot and should be labeled as such.
As it is, we lost over 58,000 of our dead and the Vietnamese paid with some 2 million of their lives, and from a US standpoint, we won nothing, and worse yet failed to learn a single lesson.