Interesting image.

techs

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McCains first words the morning after the election?
What does it mean epic fail, lulz ?
 

techs

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Originally posted by: frostedflakes
Heh, you have to wonder why Hoover even bothered running for re-election. :p

Maybe he was like George Bush who still thinks he hasn't made a mistake as President?

 

CallMeJoe

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Originally posted by: TheSpy007
Southeast voting for Democrats? lolz
It wasn't until the Dixiecrat rebellion and the Republican "Southern Strategy" of the Nixon years that the modern solidly Republican South was born. Civil Rights (identified here primarily as a Democratic issue, thanks to the reforms of the Kennedy and Johnson administrations) alienated large groups of formerly Democratic white Southerners and drove them into the arms of the GOP. It was no accident that Reagan launched his presidential campaign in Philadelphia, MS with an appeal to States' Rights.
 

techs

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Originally posted by: CallMeJoe
Originally posted by: TheSpy007
Southeast voting for Democrats? lolz
It wasn't until the Dixiecrat rebellion and the Republican "Southern Strategy" of the Nixon years that the modern solidly Republican South was born. Civil Rights (identified here primarily as a Democratic issue, thanks to the reforms of the Kennedy and Johnson administrations) alienated large groups of formerly Democratic white Southerners and drove them into the arms of the GOP. It was no accident that Reagan launched his presidential campaign in Philadelphia, MS with an appeal to States' Rights.


Yeah, damn those Democrats for sticking up for civil rights.
Thank goodness we have Republicans who will stand up for lynching minorites.
 

dphantom

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Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: CallMeJoe
Originally posted by: TheSpy007
Southeast voting for Democrats? lolz
It wasn't until the Dixiecrat rebellion and the Republican "Southern Strategy" of the Nixon years that the modern solidly Republican South was born. Civil Rights (identified here primarily as a Democratic issue, thanks to the reforms of the Kennedy and Johnson administrations) alienated large groups of formerly Democratic white Southerners and drove them into the arms of the GOP. It was no accident that Reagan launched his presidential campaign in Philadelphia, MS with an appeal to States' Rights.


Yeah, damn those Democrats for sticking up for civil rights.
Thank goodness we have Republicans who will stand up for lynching minorites.

Nah, we only lynch socialists. Your color, religion, blah blah don't matter.
 

ProfJohn

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Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: CallMeJoe
Originally posted by: TheSpy007
Southeast voting for Democrats? lolz
It wasn't until the Dixiecrat rebellion and the Republican "Southern Strategy" of the Nixon years that the modern solidly Republican South was born. Civil Rights (identified here primarily as a Democratic issue, thanks to the reforms of the Kennedy and Johnson administrations) alienated large groups of formerly Democratic white Southerners and drove them into the arms of the GOP. It was no accident that Reagan launched his presidential campaign in Philadelphia, MS with an appeal to States' Rights.
Yeah, damn those Democrats for sticking up for civil rights.
Thank goodness we have Republicans who will stand up for lynching minorites.
God you are an idiot.

It was the Democrats who were lynching people and passing Jim Crow laws.

The Democrats controlled the south for decades. They were the segregationists. They were the ones who turned the hoses on blacks. It was a Democrat governor who stood in the front of the U of Alabama in order to block black students from entering.

You guys like to throw out your 'southern strategy' thing to tie Republicans to racism, but you ignore the 87 years that the Democrats controlled the south. Pathetic.
 

Butterbean

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They would not have voted for a Marxist back then - with a preacher like Wright, and with endorsements like those from Hamas and Ortega - and teaching sex ed to 5 yr old and giving protections to cross-dressers. Its obvious from polls people don't feel good about Obama despite the bad conditions. McCain could have been spanking him already if he ran a half decent campaign - despite the media protecting him at every turn. He could still do well even now.
 

techs

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: CallMeJoe
Originally posted by: TheSpy007
Southeast voting for Democrats? lolz
It wasn't until the Dixiecrat rebellion and the Republican "Southern Strategy" of the Nixon years that the modern solidly Republican South was born. Civil Rights (identified here primarily as a Democratic issue, thanks to the reforms of the Kennedy and Johnson administrations) alienated large groups of formerly Democratic white Southerners and drove them into the arms of the GOP. It was no accident that Reagan launched his presidential campaign in Philadelphia, MS with an appeal to States' Rights.
Yeah, damn those Democrats for sticking up for civil rights.
Thank goodness we have Republicans who will stand up for lynching minorites.
God you are an idiot.

It was the Democrats who were lynching people and passing Jim Crow laws.

The Democrats controlled the south for decades. They were the segregationists. They were the ones who turned the hoses on blacks. It was a Democrat governor who stood in the front of the U of Alabama in order to block black students from entering.

You guys like to throw out your 'southern strategy' thing to tie Republicans to racism, but you ignore the 87 years that the Democrats controlled the south. Pathetic.

You completely miss the point. The Democrats evolved. They realized that the racism in this country needed to be ended. And the Republicans were the ones who made the decision, in the 1960's to support the racists the Democrats turned away.
One party made the sacrifice of votes to do whats right. Another party said, give us your kkk, your midnite lynchings, your Southern Democrats yearning to keep black people down.

 

ProfJohn

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Oh... let's not forget that the Republicans voted for the civil rights act of 64 by a greater percentage than the Democrats.
 

StageLeft

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OMFG is that real?
He could still do well even now.
You had me until this. LAWLS. McCain's campaign is done. This is the final nail in the coffin, or Palin being a moron, or Palin abusing power, or McCain's voting populous being on vid saying the crazy sh*t, any one of these are just more nails on a coffin already weater-tight.
 

winnar111

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
God you are an idiot.

It was the Democrats who were lynching people and passing Jim Crow laws.

The Democrats controlled the south for decades. They were the segregationists. They were the ones who turned the hoses on blacks. It was a Democrat governor who stood in the front of the U of Alabama in order to block black students from entering.

You guys like to throw out your 'southern strategy' thing to tie Republicans to racism, but you ignore the 87 years that the Democrats controlled the south. Pathetic.

Lyndon Johnson opposed civil rights as a Senator in the 50s.
 

CallMeJoe

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
God you are an idiot.
It was the Democrats who were lynching people and passing Jim Crow laws. The Democrats controlled the south for decades. They were the segregationists. They were the ones who turned the hoses on blacks.
You are absolutely right. It was Democrats like Strom Thurmond and Jesse Helms and Trent Lott...do you start to see a pattern? The segregationist Democrats of the 1950s and 1960s became the "States' Rights" Republicans of the 1970s and 1980s...and today.

It was a Democrat governor who stood in the front of the U of Alabama in order to block black students from entering.
George Corley Wallace, who left the Democratic Party for the American Independent Party for his presidential bid in 1968, when the national Democratic Party would not support his segregationist agenda. See more of the pattern?

You guys like to throw out your 'southern strategy' thing to tie Republicans to racism, but you ignore the 87 years that the Democrats controlled the south.
You ignore that there are some of us here who lived through the transition, and saw racist Democrats become racist Republicans when the GOP took up the banner of "States' Rights".

Pathetic.
Yes, you certainly can be.


Originally posted by: winnar111
Lyndon Johnson opposed civil rights as a Senator in the 50s...
...and championed them as president in the 1960s, despite the opposition of the Dixiecrat wing of his own party.
 

umbrella39

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Originally posted by: Butterbean
They would not have voted for a Marxist back then - with a preacher like Wright, and with endorsements like those from Hamas and Ortega - and teaching sex ed to 5 yr old and giving protections to cross-dressers. Its obvious from polls people don't feel good about Obama despite the bad conditions. McCain could have been spanking him already if he ran a half decent campaign - despite the media protecting him at every turn. He could still do well even now.

Enough with the parody and if you insist on continuing, please get some new material.
 

Throckmorton

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Oh... let's not forget that the Republicans voted for the civil rights act of 64 by a greater percentage than the Democrats.

Why won't you claim conservative yellow dog Democrats as your own?
 

Thump553

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: CallMeJoe
Originally posted by: TheSpy007
Southeast voting for Democrats? lolz
It wasn't until the Dixiecrat rebellion and the Republican "Southern Strategy" of the Nixon years that the modern solidly Republican South was born. Civil Rights (identified here primarily as a Democratic issue, thanks to the reforms of the Kennedy and Johnson administrations) alienated large groups of formerly Democratic white Southerners and drove them into the arms of the GOP. It was no accident that Reagan launched his presidential campaign in Philadelphia, MS with an appeal to States' Rights.
Yeah, damn those Democrats for sticking up for civil rights.
Thank goodness we have Republicans who will stand up for lynching minorites.
God you are an idiot.

It was the Democrats who were lynching people and passing Jim Crow laws.

The Democrats controlled the south for decades. They were the segregationists. They were the ones who turned the hoses on blacks. It was a Democrat governor who stood in the front of the U of Alabama in order to block black students from entering.

You guys like to throw out your 'southern strategy' thing to tie Republicans to racism, but you ignore the 87 years that the Democrats controlled the south. Pathetic.

PJ: Your comment is hypocrisy at its best. It was the exact same people that were dixiecrats that became southern GOP. It took them the affront of LBJ and the Civil Rights Act of 1964 to get over their grudge against the GOP for the Civil War. You know that, quite trying to snow people. I'm not proud they were ever part of the Democratic Party, but I certainly don't pretend that relabeling them as GOP made them suddenly become admirers of Lincoln.
 

Lemon law

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Other than the fact that the passage of civil rights laws in the early 60's lost the democrats their solid south, the original premise of the larger thread remains intact, namely that a collapse of the economy will drive
many States from pink to solid blue, and many other States from solid red into at least a blue hue. And this has been reflected in the McCain poll numbers that started dropping when McCain stated the State of the economy is sound on 9/15/08. And those McCain poll numbers continue to fall as fast as the dow.
 

winnar111

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Originally posted by: CallMeJoe
Originally posted by: winnar111
Lyndon Johnson opposed civil rights as a Senator in the 50s...
...and championed them as president in the 1960s, despite the opposition of the Dixiecrat wing of his own party.

Well, yeah, the entire point was to impede progress so he had an election platform of his own making to run on. Kind of like the leftwingers who were cheering the death of our troops in the 70s and again in 2004 with Iraq.

It worked, didn't it?

 

CallMeJoe

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Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: CallMeJoe
Originally posted by: winnar111
Lyndon Johnson opposed civil rights as a Senator in the 50s...
...and championed them as president in the 1960s, despite the opposition of the Dixiecrat wing of his own party.
Well, yeah, the entire point was to impede progress so he had an election platform of his own making to run on. Kind of like the leftwingers who were cheering the death of our troops in the 70s and again in 2004 with Iraq.
It worked, didn't it?
Are you someone's secret parody persona?
 

Lemon law

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Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: CallMeJoe
Originally posted by: winnar111
Lyndon Johnson opposed civil rights as a Senator in the 50s...
...and championed them as president in the 1960s, despite the opposition of the Dixiecrat wing of his own party.

Well, yeah, the entire point was to impede progress so he had an election platform of his own making to run on. Kind of like the leftwingers who were cheering the death of our troops in the 70s and again in 2004 with Iraq.

It worked, didn't it?
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On what big hogwash winnar111 has, when it was the youth of the nation that mainly opposed the Vietnam war. And who better to pander to that opposition than Mr. GOP himself, Richard Nixon, who adopted the McGovern peace plan, renamed it peace with honor, and it was Nixon that cut and ran as fast as he could, after failing to deliver a victory as promised in his first term.

No responsible peace advocates in the 1960 or 70's rooted for the death of American troops, and no responsible anti Iraq war advocates roots for the death of American troops now. But antiwar types, then and now, still advocate less bloody ways to settle conflicts, because an military occupation imposed by brute force never works. And that lesson should have been learned from Vietnam.

And if winnar111 advocates that critics of the conduct of wars like Vietnam or Iraq are unpatriotic, he is an idiot and should be labeled as such.

As it is, we lost over 58,000 of our dead and the Vietnamese paid with some 2 million of their lives, and from a US standpoint, we won nothing, and worse yet failed to learn a single lesson.
 

techs

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Originally posted by: Lemon law
Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: CallMeJoe
Originally posted by: winnar111
Lyndon Johnson opposed civil rights as a Senator in the 50s...
...and championed them as president in the 1960s, despite the opposition of the Dixiecrat wing of his own party.

Well, yeah, the entire point was to impede progress so he had an election platform of his own making to run on. Kind of like the leftwingers who were cheering the death of our troops in the 70s and again in 2004 with Iraq.

It worked, didn't it?
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

On what big hogwash winnar111 has, when it was the youth of the nation that mainly opposed the Vietnam war. And who better to pander to that opposition than Mr. GOP himself, Richard Nixon, who adopted the McGovern peace plan, renamed it peace with honor, and it was Nixon that cut and ran as fast as he could, after failing to deliver a victory as promised in his first term.

No responsible peace advocates in the 1960 or 70's rooted for the death of American troops, and no responsible anti Iraq war advocates roots for the death of American troops now. But antiwar types, then and now, still advocate less bloody ways to settle conflicts, because an military occupation imposed by brute force never works. And that lesson should have been learned from Vietnam.

And if winnar111 advocates that critics of the conduct of wars like Vietnam or Iraq are unpatriotic, he is an idiot and should be labeled as such.

As it is, we lost over 58,000 of our dead and the Vietnamese paid with some 2 million of their lives, and from a US standpoint, we won nothing, and worse yet failed to learn a single lesson.

And, sadly, if we had gotten out 10 years earlier, things would be no different in Viet Nan today.

 

Vic

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Originally posted by: dphantom
Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: CallMeJoe
Originally posted by: TheSpy007
Southeast voting for Democrats? lolz
It wasn't until the Dixiecrat rebellion and the Republican "Southern Strategy" of the Nixon years that the modern solidly Republican South was born. Civil Rights (identified here primarily as a Democratic issue, thanks to the reforms of the Kennedy and Johnson administrations) alienated large groups of formerly Democratic white Southerners and drove them into the arms of the GOP. It was no accident that Reagan launched his presidential campaign in Philadelphia, MS with an appeal to States' Rights.


Yeah, damn those Democrats for sticking up for civil rights.
Thank goodness we have Republicans who will stand up for lynching minorites.

Nah, we only lynch socialists. Your color, religion, blah blah don't matter.

The problem with this is that much of the South tends to think that any color and religion other than white and Protestant makes one a socialist.

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
God you are an idiot.

It was the Democrats who were lynching people and passing Jim Crow laws.

The Democrats controlled the south for decades. They were the segregationists. They were the ones who turned the hoses on blacks. It was a Democrat governor who stood in the front of the U of Alabama in order to block black students from entering.

You guys like to throw out your 'southern strategy' thing to tie Republicans to racism, but you ignore the 87 years that the Democrats controlled the south. Pathetic.
Every single one of those old Dixiecrats is a Republican today. While at the same the Republicans have effectively kicked all the Northern liberals out of the party.

Look, your usual dishonesty is showing. The reason the South voted Democrat all those years is because the Republicans were the party of Lincoln. The parties just switched places during the Civil Rights movement and the 60s. Those Pubs who voted for the Civil Rights act were for the most part Northern Liberals, a faction of the Republican party that no longer exists. The Dems who voted against it were for the most party Southern Conservatives, a faction of the Democratic party that also no longer exists (except for the Blue Dog Democrats, who are NOT the same as the old Dixiecrats).

Beyond the civil rights movement, this change came about because of modern technology post WWII, especially communications and transportation. The Dems evolved into the urban party, the Pubs into the rural party.