Interesting GPU OC statistics from HWBot (680, vs Titan, vs 7970, vs 7950, vs 580)

[wand3r3r]

I haven't seen/noticed these stats before, so it was interesting to see (mentioned by MrK6 in another thread).

Average OCs

GTX 680 1218/2021MHz 15%
5,183 submissions
Default: 1058MHz

Titan 1066/1884MHz 22%
1,062 submissions
Default: 876 MHz

HD 7950 1144/1641MHz over v1 43%, boost 24%
1,496 submissions
Default: 800-925 MHz (v1 - Boost)

HD 7970 1209/1715MHz over v1 31%, 15% GHz
12,320 submissions
Default: 925-1050 MHz (v1 - GHz)

Older Fermi
GTX 580 948/1268MHz 22%
Default clock: 777/1002MHz.

http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/geforce_gtx_680/
http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/geforce_gtx_titan/
http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/radeon_hd_7950/
http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/radeon_hd_7970/

Discuss.

 

[aigomorla]

im rofling at the pure raw amount of submissions ATi has over Nvidia.

which totally shows who wins on sale point across the platforms u listed.

the 7970 is truely an awesome card to have that many submissions / sales.

 

[wand3r3r]

Yeah it clocks quite well, the average is pretty impressive (avg across both normal and GHz). The titan is embarrassing (for a $1k flagship - that "boosts" in reviews to nearly 1GHz, downclocking after warming up), the 680 is about what I suspect from what I've experienced and with the voltage neutering. Interesting to see 7950's aren't quite up to the 7970 average, then again there's only 10% of the submissions and in reality I'd guess it's the better selling card but I'm not sure. It will be interesting to see the 780, I suspect it will be better than the titan but I'm not sure.

 

[Termie]

Something's wrong with the GTX680 VRAM overclock number. I don't think I've heard of a single case of a GTX600 series card hitting 8GHz. I'm assuming the real number is between 6.8 and 7.0GHz.

 

[blackened23]

Something's wrong with the GTX680 VRAM overclock number. I don't think I've heard of a single case of a GTX600 series card hitting 8GHz. I'm assuming the real number is between 6.8 and 7.0GHz.

Termie, this is HWBOT we're talking about. The upper echelons of the HWbot ranks are filled with LN2 benchmarking freaks. If anyone can manage 8GHz, they can. That isn't to say the average user will ever come close to it, though.

 

[wand3r3r]

That's true, it's insanely fast if possible. Somehow that seems too high, has anyone on the forums hit that? It seems like lightnings were hitting ~7GHz (can't recall exactly) so to say the average is 8 is pretty strange.

 

[Granseth]

Termie, this is HWBOT we're talking about. The upper echelons of the HWbot ranks are filled with LN2 benchmarking freaks. If anyone can manage 8GHz, they can. That isn't to say the average user will ever come close to it, though.

The posted numbers are for air cooling. If you go to the link and press cascade or LN2 you will see lower mem frequency, and a bit higher for water.

 

[Lonbjerg]

im rofling at the pure raw amount of submissions ATi has over Nvidia.

which totally shows who wins on sale point across the platforms u listed.

the 7970 is truely an awesome card to have that many submissions / sales.

People are givning " galego " a hard time...but lets stuff like this slide?
lol

 

[Sleepingforest]

I'd suggest that since the 7XXX series is better known for overclocking than the 6XX series, more people submit an answer. Plus, most of Nvidia's dominance is probably from lower end cards which are snapped up by OEMs and fools in B&M stores (commission for a more expensive part leads salespeople to push highest price possible).

 

[thilanliyan]

People are givning " galego " a hard time...but lets stuff like this slide?
lol

You're saying aigomorla of all people is AMD biased? Lol that's a good one.

He made an observation. If you disagree, state why.

 

[Lepton87]

Titan's OC shouldn't be calculated from 876MHz but rather 996MHz, but maybe 1066mhz is the default clock before the boost, but that would mean +230MHz offset and about 1250MHz actual clock, I didn't see a Titan that clocks that fast and that's only the average. I don't trust those statistics at all.

 

[Sleepingforest]

Titan's OC shouldn't be calculated from 876MHz but rather 996MHz, but maybe 1066mhz is the default clock before the boost, but that would mean +230MHz offset and about 1250MHz actual clock, I didn't see a Titan that clocks that fast and that's only the average. I don't trust those statistics at all.

But they calculate from the non-boost clocks of every GPU, and they have entries from literally over 1000 entries (and reviews get equally high). That suggests that you just got a bad egg.

 

[SirPauly]

Plus, most of Nvidia's dominance is probably from lower end cards which are snapped up by OEMs and fools in B&M stores (commission for a more expensive part leads salespeople to push highest price possible).

What explains the Steam Survey which shows GTX 680 and 670 dominance?

 

[Sleepingforest]

Isn't that what the "fools in B&M stores" part is for?

 

[exar333]

The posted numbers are for air cooling. If you go to the link and press cascade or LN2 you will see lower mem frequency, and a bit higher for water.

Weird, since the links take me to the page that directly says this:

Titan
1065/1883MHZ
'Default clock: 837/1500MHz. Average overclock on air, water, cascade or liquid nitrogen'

 

[BrightCandle]

If the Titan was really power limited rather than voltage/temperature then I would have expected a much bigger boast on water than it gets. just +55Mhz on the core verses the 680 which gets +100Mhz on the core.

I guess however that the Titan throttles because of heat, it doesn't impact the top clock the core can achieve. Water cooling probably makes the top boast more consistent.

 

[SirPauly]

Isn't that what the "fools in B&M stores" part is for?

AMD -- smarter choice!

https://www.google.com/search?q=AMD...e%3DContent%26pa%3Dshowpage%26pid%3D3;825;442

 

[exar333]

If the Titan was really power limited rather than voltage/temperature then I would have expected a much bigger boast on water than it gets. just +55Mhz on the core verses the 680 which gets +100Mhz on the core.

I guess however that the Titan throttles because of heat, it doesn't impact the top clock the core can achieve. Water cooling probably makes the top boast more consistent.

Agreed.

Imagine if they sold more beefy, custom Titans that could be WC'd...

 

[Granseth]

Weird, since the links take me to the page that directly says this:

Titan
1065/1883MHZ
'Default clock: 837/1500MHz. Average overclock on air, water, cascade or liquid nitrogen'

1065/1883MHz
Average overclock on air
1110/1685MHz
Average overclock on water
1363/1661MHz
Average overclock on cascade
1548/2165MHz
Average overclock on liquid nitrogen

If you push each of the four, you get these values.

 

[exar333]

1065/1883MHz
Average overclock on air
1110/1685MHz
Average overclock on water
1363/1661MHz
Average overclock on cascade
1548/2165MHz
Average overclock on liquid nitrogen

If you push each of the four, you get these values.

Gotcha

 

[Lepton87]

But they calculate from the non-boost clocks of every GPU, and they have entries from literally over 1000 entries (and reviews get equally high). That suggests that you just got a bad egg.

Yeah right, every review got around +230MHz offset stable. People probably submit OCs that aren't really stable.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/04/29/nvidia_geforce_gtx_titan_overclocking_review/3 +150 offset another bad egg

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_titan_review,25.html +165MHz another bad egg

http://hothardware.com/Reviews/GeForce-GTX-Titan-Performance-Yes-It-CAN-Play-Crysis-3/?page=16 + 103MHZ offset yet another bad egg
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/graphics/display/nvidia-geforce-gtx-titan_5.html#sect0 +135Mhz offset another bad egg, that's quite a lot of bad eggs.
But if Titan's average is +230MHz a lot of cards should OCs by 300-350MHz offset stable on air with the stock cooler. Show me as much reviews as I showed you here where reviews achieved +260-300MHz offset stable. That shouldn't be a problem if reviews got similar results, right?


so all of those were outliers and a lot titans OCs well above 230MHz offset stable.

 

[3DVagabond]

People are givning " galego " a hard time...but lets stuff like this slide?
lol

Trying to round up the troops for an assault?

 

[SolMiester]

im rofling at the pure raw amount of submissions ATi has over Nvidia.

which totally shows who wins on sale point across the platforms u listed.

the 7970 is truely an awesome card to have that many submissions / sales.

Yeah, they probably couldnt play games with the driver issues, what else are they going to do?....LOL../joke

 

[Sleepingforest]

+135Mhz offset another bad egg, that's quite a lot of bad eggs.

That's four. Compared to 1000. Seriously, if I Googled it I could probably find equally many that were higher.

 

[Lepton87]

That's four. Compared to 1000. Seriously, if I Googled it I could probably find equally many that were higher.

So do that. Many reviewers are bound to get an above average card, so I'm waiting for those reviews were they got +300MHz offset stable. Until then I don't trust those statistics.
ps. Is there anyone on this forum who got +300-350 core offset stable, for the average to be 265MHz there would have to be lots of cards that OCs in that range because there are cards that only do +/- 150MHz