Interesting day here today in Bogota

Mill

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A lot of the protestors went nuts down in the City Center. Thankfully I avoided must of it, as I didn't get back from Villavacencio until 3pm or so, and then took Transmilenio to the Stadium to watch the Millionarios play. I watched Bush arrive at the military airport on Caracol, then switched to watch Evo Morales talk like a moron for awhile.

Big big big stuff here. Everyone was talking about it and going nuts. Security was the tightest I've ever seen here. Alcohol was banned from 2am Sunday morning until 6pm tonight. Numerous searches were going on, and there were probably about 30k police or troops securing the area. I was actually a bit worried an attack would take place somewhere else (while the troops were protecting Bush), but nothing happened. Transmilenio was safe, no bombs, and the FARC and other groups was held in check. Regardless of Bush's politics or your own personal beliefs, today was a victory for the Colombian people.
 

ProfJohn

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Colombia is a mess. It is a shame that the average person has to live in such fear of the drug lords or other radical groups.
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Colombia is a mess. It is a shame that the average person has to live in such fear of the drug lords or other radical groups.

The average person doesn't live in fear of drug lords or other radical groups. Life is pretty normal, actually. You reach a point at which you remain vigilant, but you also give into the idea that you can't stop it, and you will never know when it will occur. You will eventually just not see the military or police, think it is strange to get patted down everywhere you go, be shocked by heavy security in certain areas. You just don't see it. It disappears.

I don't feel unsafe here. I was in the stadium while Bush left, and just a few miles away the protestors were going at it. I rode Transmilenio without worrying. I went to Villavacencia and didn't worry about anything other than the steep dropoffs on the roads.
 

BarneyFife

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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Colombia is a mess. It is a shame that the average person has to live in such fear of the drug lords or other radical groups.

The average person doesn't live in fear of drug lords or other radical groups. Life is pretty normal, actually. You reach a point at which you remain vigilant, but you also give into the idea that you can't stop it, and you will never know when it will occur. You will eventually just not see the military or police, think it is strange to get patted down everywhere you go, be shocked by heavy security in certain areas. You just don't see it. It disappears.

I don't feel unsafe here. I was in the stadium while Bush left, and just a few miles away the protestors were going at it. I rode Transmilenio without worrying. I went to Villavacencia and didn't worry about anything other than the steep dropoffs on the roads.


Thanks Mill. Judging from the previous post, you would think that its worse than Iraq.
 

JD50

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Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Colombia is a mess. It is a shame that the average person has to live in such fear of the drug lords or other radical groups.

The average person doesn't live in fear of drug lords or other radical groups. Life is pretty normal, actually. You reach a point at which you remain vigilant, but you also give into the idea that you can't stop it, and you will never know when it will occur. You will eventually just not see the military or police, think it is strange to get patted down everywhere you go, be shocked by heavy security in certain areas. You just don't see it. It disappears.

I don't feel unsafe here. I was in the stadium while Bush left, and just a few miles away the protestors were going at it. I rode Transmilenio without worrying. I went to Villavacencia and didn't worry about anything other than the steep dropoffs on the roads.


Thanks Mill. Judging from the previous post, you would think that its worse than Iraq.

Wow, from Bogota to Iraq in only 5 posts, :cookie:

 

Martin

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Well, life in general is a lot less bland in places like that. Around these parts you'll never get people so mad that they surround and block the parliament until the government falls, or other things along those lines...
 

judasmachine

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Bush's stash must have run out.

I kid, I kid.

Anyway, it's also sad that when he (or any G8 leader) visit, they turn so called free countries into police states.
 

Jaskalas

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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Colombia is a mess. It is a shame that the average person has to live in such fear of the drug lords or other radical groups.

The average person doesn't live in fear of drug lords or other radical groups. Life is pretty normal, actually. You reach a point at which you remain vigilant, but you also give into the idea that you can't stop it, and you will never know when it will occur. You will eventually just not see the military or police, think it is strange to get patted down everywhere you go, be shocked by heavy security in certain areas. You just don't see it. It disappears.

I don't feel unsafe here. I was in the stadium while Bush left, and just a few miles away the protestors were going at it. I rode Transmilenio without worrying. I went to Villavacencia and didn't worry about anything other than the steep dropoffs on the roads.

We could learn a lot from you. America will very soon be this way, it already is in certain parts.
 

imported_Shivetya

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so basically the "rent-a-mobs" were a problem.


of course you get to see first hand just how little rights people have outside of the US
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: Shivetya
so basically the "rent-a-mobs" were a problem.


of course you get to see first hand just how little rights people have outside of the US

They certainly were not rent-a-mobs. A lot of people here do not like Bush.
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: judasmachine
Bush's stash must have run out.

I kid, I kid.

Anyway, it's also sad that when he (or any G8 leader) visit, they turn so called free countries into police states.

I wouldn't say it was a police state. Just tight security with lots of random checks and a strong presence.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Mill
Anyway, it's also sad that when he (or any G8 leader) visit, they turn so called free countries into police states.

I wouldn't say it was a police state.

Just tight security with lots of random checks and a strong presence.[/quote]

Pretty much the way most in here want the U.S. to be.
 

JD50

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Mill
Anyway, it's also sad that when he (or any G8 leader) visit, they turn so called free countries into police states.

I wouldn't say it was a police state.

Just tight security with lots of random checks and a strong presence.

Pretty much the way most in here want the U.S. to be.[/quote]


Who?
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Mill
Anyway, it's also sad that when he (or any G8 leader) visit, they turn so called free countries into police states.

I wouldn't say it was a police state.

Just tight security with lots of random checks and a strong presence.

Pretty much the way most in here want the U.S. to be.

Who?[/quote]

Your heroes of course.

Simply look at the proof provided by the detentions committed at the GOP convention in New York.
 

JD50

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Mill
Anyway, it's also sad that when he (or any G8 leader) visit, they turn so called free countries into police states.

I wouldn't say it was a police state.

Just tight security with lots of random checks and a strong presence.

Pretty much the way most in here want the U.S. to be.

Who?

Your heroes of course.

Simply look at the proof provided by the detentions committed at the GOP convention in New York.[/quote]

Lets try this again, who in here wants the US to have tight security with lots of random checks and a strong presence?

Try to answer the question this time.
 

tomywishbone

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Originally posted by: judasmachine
Bush's stash must have run out.

I kid, I kid.

Anyway, it's also sad that when he (or any G8 leader) visit, they turn so called free countries into police states.

:D



 

Jaskalas

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Mill
Anyway, it's also sad that when he (or any G8 leader) visit, they turn so called free countries into police states.

I wouldn't say it was a police state.

Just tight security with lots of random checks and a strong presence.

Pretty much the way most in here want the U.S. to be.

Who?

Your heroes of course.

Simply look at the proof provided by the detentions committed at the GOP convention in New York.[/quote]

While your ideology builds the foundation for such abuses. If our national government was small and limited as intended then there could be no police state.

My ?hero? would be someone that limited government. That is the opposite of both you and Bush who are on the same big government Authoritarian coin leading us into socialism and then communism.
 

JD50

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Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Mill
Anyway, it's also sad that when he (or any G8 leader) visit, they turn so called free countries into police states.

I wouldn't say it was a police state.

Just tight security with lots of random checks and a strong presence.

Pretty much the way most in here want the U.S. to be.

Who?

Your heroes of course.

Simply look at the proof provided by the detentions committed at the GOP convention in New York.

Lets try this again, who in here wants the US to have tight security with lots of random checks and a strong presence?

Try to answer the question this time.
[/quote]


Dave, I am surprised that are still unable to come up with any proof that most in here want right security with lots of random checks. I would think that since most in here want that, there would be all sorts of proof just floating around...
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: techs
Is it true that many Columbians are learning Mandarin?

Not that I've heard of. English is the most widely learned foreign language here, and then French.
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Mill
Anyway, it's also sad that when he (or any G8 leader) visit, they turn so called free countries into police states.

I wouldn't say it was a police state.

Just tight security with lots of random checks and a strong presence.

Pretty much the way most in here want the U.S. to be.

Who?

Your heroes of course.

Simply look at the proof provided by the detentions committed at the GOP convention in New York.

Lets try this again, who in here wants the US to have tight security with lots of random checks and a strong presence?

Try to answer the question this time.


Dave, I am surprised that are still unable to come up with any proof that most in here want right security with lots of random checks. I would think that since most in here want that, there would be all sorts of proof just floating around...
[/quote]

I really don't see what this has to do with the topic of this thread. There is tight security and random checks wherever the President visits. Whether it is La Jolla, CA, or Bogota, CO.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Mill
Anyway, it's also sad that when he (or any G8 leader) visit, they turn so called free countries into police states.

I wouldn't say it was a police state.

Just tight security with lots of random checks and a strong presence.

Pretty much the way most in here want the U.S. to be.

Who?

Your heroes of course.

Simply look at the proof provided by the detentions committed at the GOP convention in New York.

While your ideology builds the foundation for such abuses. If our national government was small and limited as intended then there could be no police state.

My ?hero? would be someone that limited government.

That is the opposite of both you and Bush who are on the same big government Authoritarian coin leading us into socialism and then communism.[/quote]

You have got to be kidding me. You obviously do not read any of my posts.

I would reduce Government to so small and so fast there would have to be a new category in the BLS stats just for unemployed former big Government workers.
 

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colombia is such a pretty country with such good food. the italians taught them how to cook, and, unfortunately, how to drive as well :)