Interesting conversation at a poker table last night..

z0mb13

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I met this guy at my poker table last night (got killed in poker :( I flopped a set of jacks with poker pair only to get killed by pocket queens getting a set on the turn :()

He works as an IT manager at a scrap junkyard.

Some interesting things that he said:
- some cars are worth in parts than it is as a whole, but of course they will never give you the total price in parts, thats where they make their money. Volvos are very good examples.
- It seems that they are almost bottom feeder like in their business practices. He told a story how a guy sold them an almost brand new toyota tundra (with less than 10k miles) for $10k just because he needed to pay bail!
- a lot of passion/hate crime happened. He got a classic car for $100 and then got it appraised for $100k. The reason why he got it so cheap? because the original owner hated how his son disrepected his car and drove it without his permission! Also a lot of cars gets sold by a person because his/her spouse cheated on her/him
- A lot of shady stuff goes on in the car dealerships (even those with prominent names). Often times they buy parts from these junkyards and charge the customer new prices for them.
- An even bigger scam is how dealerships would buy speedometers (the whole instrument cluster) and replace cars with high mileage so that they have lower mileage. He said almost all dealerships do this, even the famous ones.
- I didnt even ask him if he deals with stolen cars.. but I am not surprised if he does..
- he said no one should EVER buy used cars from enterprise.. he said they are the shadiest in terms of car maintenance or repairs
 

z0mb13

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Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: z0mb13
he said penske.. I forgot the other names

Yeah I don't think Penske is a "dealership."

I think they rent moving trucks.

oops maybe I misheard.. but his point was big and well known dealerships do this regularly
 

z0mb13

Lifer
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Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: z0mb13
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
What's a "famous" car dealership?

he said penske.. I forgot the other names

...don't they sell mercedes?

what casino you play at?

yeah I think penske has a bunch of dealerships. I think there is a penske honda and toyota as well

I played at san manuel last night
 

JS80

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Originally posted by: z0mb13
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: z0mb13
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
What's a "famous" car dealership?

he said penske.. I forgot the other names

...don't they sell mercedes?

what casino you play at?

yeah I think penske has a bunch of dealerships. I think there is a penske honda and toyota as well

I played at san manuel last night

you drove to San diego to play poker?!?
 

z0mb13

Lifer
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Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: z0mb13
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: z0mb13
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
What's a "famous" car dealership?

he said penske.. I forgot the other names

...don't they sell mercedes?

what casino you play at?

yeah I think penske has a bunch of dealerships. I think there is a penske honda and toyota as well

I played at san manuel last night

you drove to San diego to play poker?!?

san manuel is at riverside area...
 

V00DOO

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My friend owns a salvaged yard and his biggest costomers are car dealers like Honda, Toyata, ect. The dealers buy salvaged car parts and charge unsuspecting customers new part price. Most insurance company don't stipulate new part just OEM part.
 

Aharami

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Originally posted by: z0mb13
- A lot of shady stuff goes on in the car dealerships (even those with prominent names). Often times they buy parts from these junkyards and charge the customer new prices for them.
- An even bigger scam is how dealerships would buy speedometers (the whole instrument cluster) and replace cars with high mileage so that they have lower mileage. He said almost all dealerships do this, even the famous ones.

wow!
 

JS80

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Originally posted by: z0mb13
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: z0mb13
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: z0mb13
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
What's a "famous" car dealership?

he said penske.. I forgot the other names

...don't they sell mercedes?

what casino you play at?

yeah I think penske has a bunch of dealerships. I think there is a penske honda and toyota as well

I played at san manuel last night

you drove to San diego to play poker?!?

san manuel is at riverside area...

oops i thought 909 is SD
 

buck

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Used to work at a salvage yard and was with the owners daughter for years.... I got to learn the behind the scenes dealings.... LOTS of cash involved, most of it never gets reported to the IRS, but whatever, they were good people so i will keep my mouth shut. All i can say, is that those salvage yards make alot of money.
Another thing, dont buy rebuilt vehicles..... Carfax and the like ftw.
 

everman

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Originally posted by: z0mb13

- he said no one should EVER buy used cars from enterprise.. he said they are the shadiest in terms of car maintenance or repairs

What, like a stick in your radiator? :confused:
 

PAB

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Originally posted by: z0mb13
- An even bigger scam is how dealerships would buy speedometers (the whole instrument cluster) and replace cars with high mileage so that they have lower mileage. He said almost all dealerships do this, even the famous ones.

Oldest trick in the book. Call LKQ, order an IP and then TMU the car. You instantly lose 100,000 miles and you can still sell the car relatively cheap and someone who needs a decent car won't care becuase all they're looking at is the price.

This is harder to do on newer cars because instead of the mileage being recorded in the IP. Additionally, Ford matches IP's to keys, so if you do a swap the car won't start.
 

compuwiz1

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The guy might have been just talking, trying to make interesting conversation, with no idea what the heck he was talking about. Have you considered that? While I don't doubt some of that happens, I don't believe it's as rampant as what you were told.
 

z0mb13

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Originally posted by: compuwiz1
The guy might have been just talking, trying to make interesting conversation, with no idea what the heck he was talking about. Have you considered that? While I don't doubt some of that happens, I don't believe it's as rampant as what you were told.

he actually gave me his business card.. so I dont think he came THAT prepared to lie :)
 

z0mb13

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Originally posted by: PAB
Originally posted by: z0mb13
- An even bigger scam is how dealerships would buy speedometers (the whole instrument cluster) and replace cars with high mileage so that they have lower mileage. He said almost all dealerships do this, even the famous ones.

Oldest trick in the book. Call LKQ, order an IP and then TMU the car. You instantly lose 100,000 miles and you can still sell the car relatively cheap and someone who needs a decent car won't care becuase all they're looking at is the price.

This is harder to do on newer cars because instead of the mileage being recorded in the IP. Additionally, Ford matches IP's to keys, so if you do a swap the car won't start.

what are LKQ, IP, TMU?
 

z0mb13

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Originally posted by: everman
Originally posted by: z0mb13

- he said no one should EVER buy used cars from enterprise.. he said they are the shadiest in terms of car maintenance or repairs

What, like a stick in your radiator? :confused:

lol nice
 

OrganizedChaos

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Originally posted by: z0mb13
Originally posted by: PAB
Originally posted by: z0mb13
- An even bigger scam is how dealerships would buy speedometers (the whole instrument cluster) and replace cars with high mileage so that they have lower mileage. He said almost all dealerships do this, even the famous ones.

Oldest trick in the book. Call LKQ, order an IP and then TMU the car. You instantly lose 100,000 miles and you can still sell the car relatively cheap and someone who needs a decent car won't care becuase all they're looking at is the price.

This is harder to do on newer cars because instead of the mileage being recorded in the IP. Additionally, Ford matches IP's to keys, so if you do a swap the car won't start.

what are LKQ, IP, TMU?


lkq
IP
tmu