Discussion Intel's past, present and future

[DAPUNISHER]

What about half of everyone?

The internet has taught me that half is made of cake.

 

[hal2kilo]

It’s weird watching the Trump admin make tech policy and conservatives suddenly don’t want to talk about how policy impacts tech on a tech forum.

Fucking cowards

It's almost like Republicans talking about government over reach, and picking winners and losers was just a big joke.

 

[Hulk]

It's almost like Republicans talking about government over reach, and picking winners and losers was just a big joke.

Depends. In almost all cases yes. But if it's something like the government mobilizing Ford or GM or other American companies for war production in order to fight the Axis in WWII then I'm okay with it.

Obama blowing 500 million on Solyndra to "feed" his friends and then get paid a half mil for a speech here and there, then not so much.

If Intel is the ONLY chip production facility in the US, then yes, we have to keep them around in some capacity for basic survival.

 

[brycejones]

Depends. In almost all cases yes. But if it's something like the government mobilizing Ford or GM or other American companies for war production in order to fight the Axis in WWII then I'm okay with it.

Obama blowing 500 million on Solyndra to "feed" his friends and then get paid a half mil for a speech here and there, then not so much.

If Intel is the ONLY chip production facility in the US, then yes, we have to keep them around in some capacity for basic survival.

Solyndra - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Error 404: Obama blowing 500 million on Solyndra to "feed" his friends

Also getting angry at Obama's speeches AFTER he is out of office is just weird. Unless you have evidence he was being paid for speeches while he was President.

 

[Hulk]

Solyndra - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Error 404: Obama blowing 500 million on Solyndra to "feed" his friends

Also getting angry at Obama's speeches AFTER he is out of office is just weird. Unless you have evidence he was being paid for speeches while he was President.

I was citing an example of why in general I don't like the gov getting into the private sector (funding).

I know I "bit" on the politics started here and I wish I had not.

I will keep it to the cpu's moving forward.

 

[Fenixgoon]

I was citing an example of why in general I don't like the gov getting into the private sector (funding).

I know I "bit" on the politics started here and I wish I had not.

I will keep it to the cpu's moving forward.

Counterargument: only the government is willing to take bets on new technologies that offer to transform society. A good government wisely invests for its people. Like any investment portfolio, not all of them will pan out. But those that do produce revolutions in their fields

 

[brycejones]

I was citing an example of why in general I don't like the gov getting into the private sector (funding).

I know I "bit" on the politics started here and I wish I had not.

I will keep it to the cpu's moving forward.

Oh good grief grow a pair and don’t run away because someone questioned your narrative. If it’s so weak it can’t withstand 10 seconds of scrutiny what’s that say about the underlying facts of your position?

 

[Hulk]

Oh good grief grow a pair and don’t run away because someone questioned your narrative. If it’s so weak it can’t withstand 10 seconds of scrutiny what’s that say about the underlying facts of your position?

I will debate any liberal nonsense anytime. Liberalism has failed everywhere it's been tried. Most notable example is William Bradford and the pilgrams. Look it up if you don't know the history.

Anyway, this isn't the place for it.

Oh yeah, stop triggering me!

Oh sorry, liberal nonsense.

 

[dr1337]

If everyone seems like cancer, you're the cancer.

says the pig in the slop heap

this thread is literally already off topic now after 3 pages of rage baiting and insults, instead of talking about intel, its cancer, cake, and republicans vs democrats

the P&N forums are infamous for not harboring conducive discussions


In actual news, softbank just dumped 2bn onto intel via buying stock

SoftBank Group and Intel Corporation Sign $2B Investment Agreement

www.intc.com

 

[igor_kavinski]

SoftBank Group and Intel Corporation Sign $2B Investment Agreement

www.intc.com

CRAP!

Softbank really must have someone like me as their advisor.

Could it also mean that they may try to acquire Intel?

 

[igor_kavinski]

Looks like AI crap: https://www.emirates247.com/technol...iant-avoid-a-similar-fate-2025-08-18-1.740693

Some of it makes sense. But comparing Intel to Nokia? Only makes sense if M$ inserted one or more trojan executives into Intel. More information needed.

 

[brycejones]

I will debate any liberal nonsense anytime. Liberalism has failed everywhere it's been tried. Most notable example is William Bradford and the pilgrams. Look it up if you don't know the history.

Anyway, this isn't the place for it.

Oh yeah, stop triggering me!

Oh sorry, liberal nonsense.

Define “liberalism”…..I am really trying to understand how Obama getting paid for speeches after he leaves public service means “liberalism” is a failure.

 

[Hulk]

Obama is/was failed liberalism in action.
Remember when he said, "The problem with the Constitutionit is a charter of negative liberties." You see he and liberals want an all-powerful, central command. They know what is best for everyone. He COMPLETELY misses the point of the founders in that the Constitution was a reponse to government overreach. Among so many things liberalism gets wrong, that is a big one. Even now liberals want to compel speech... look to Great Britain.

Obama came into office with little money and left with hundreds of millions. Solyndra is just one example. You see when you give away 500 million dollars in hard earned money to a failed company you get returns, favors, deals on real estate, ridiculous money for silly speeches and appearances, or perhaps hundreds of thousands of dollars for art a 3 year old could create.

I'm sorry but I don't have the time or inclination to try to reach you with logic and the history of failed liberal socialist states and the corruption liberalism and it's ideas produce. Just look at every liberal run city in the US if you need another example of the destruction it causes. While I don't know you, by your remarks I'm pretty sure you are unreachable so further debate is pointless.

Be well my friend.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Obama came into office with little money and left with hundreds of millions. Solyndra is just one example. You see when you give away 500 million dollars in hard earned money to a failed company you get returns, favors, deals on real estate, ridiculous money for silly speeches and appearances, or perhaps hundreds of thousands of dollars for art a 3 year old could create.

Not defending Obama and it's wrong if he did that to enrich himself but how is trump any better?

 

[brycejones]

Obama is/was failed liberalism in action.
Remember when he said, "The problem with the Constitutionit is a charter of negative liberties." You see he and liberals want an all-powerful, central command. They know what is best for everyone. He COMPLETELY misses the point of the founders in that the Constitution was a reponse to government overreach. Among so many things liberalism gets wrong, that is a big one. Even now liberals want to compel speech... look to Great Britain.

Obama came into office with little money and left with hundreds of millions. Solyndra is just one example. You see when you give away 500 million dollars in hard earned money to a failed company you get returns, favors, deals on real estate, ridiculous money for silly speeches and appearances, or perhaps hundreds of thousands of dollars for art a 3 year old could create.

I'm sorry but I don't have the time or inclination to try to reach you with logic and the history of failed liberal socialist states and the corruption liberalism and it's ideas produce. Just look at every liberal run city in the US if you need another example of the destruction it causes. While I don't know you, by your remarks I'm pretty sure you are unreachable so further debate is pointless.

Be well my friend.

See you keep changing the subject. Can you stick to one thing so we can establish actual shared fats? Your first posted criticism of Obama had to do with his speeches. Do you have any evidence he was paid for speeches while he was President? Do you have evidence he wa promised payments for future speeches if he supported certain policies while he was President?

Also are you still working on that definition of “liberalism”?

 

[RnR_au]

If Intel is the ONLY chip production facility in the US, then yes, we have to keep them around in some capacity for basic survival.

Its not. GlobalFoundries have fabs in Vermont and New York.

In addition;

In May 2023, the U.S. Department of Defense (DoD), through the Defense Microelectronics Activity (DMEA), Trusted Access Program Office (TAPO), accredited GlobalFoundries' advanced manufacturing facility in Malta, New York, as a Category 1A Trusted Supplier.

This accreditation enables GlobalFoundries to manufacture secure semiconductors for a wide range of critical aerospace and defense applications.