Intel's "Divide and rule" vs Amd's "Keep it together"

[tatteredpotato]

I know most people say that the one socket is something that AMD does only to help the small percentage of us who build our PCs, but I think it's to make themselves more appealing to OEMs. If your company builds several models of PCs, having them all based around the same sockets and chipsets can really lower your development costs. You could really make one board for the low to mid end (perhaps even the high end depending on the specs). I really can't comment on how the economics of this break down, but just something to think about.

 

[taltamir]

agreed obscurecaucasian... and it also makes it easier for people to upgrade... got a phenom X4? want to upgrade to something that performs semi decently? your options are either a drop in replacement AMD cpu, or buying a new mobo etc from intel. now there is always the cost of change... but if you are with an intel 775 you can NOT do a drop in replacement of nehalem. You have to buy a new mobo along with new CPU, and it can be AMD or intel (so the value of both items is taken together).
This gives AMD an edge at selling their under performing product.

 

[Phynaz]

Originally posted by: faxon
wait so intel is forcing enthusiasts to pay top dollar now for the performance they could originally net with a cheap board and chip

Has this been confirmed?

My only experiance is with 1366.

 

[Majic 7]

I wasn't aware that Intel had the power to make Neweggs stock disappear on the 17th. And why are they still upgrading the dual core line and still selling loads of OEM Q6600 to HP and everyone else. No one is holding a gun to my head and forcing me to buy Nehelem. But from the hints I keep seeing about their possibilities it might happen sooner than I was planning, and the reason WILL be "just because".

 

[ajaidevsingh]

Originally posted by: Nemesis 1

Originally posted by: myocardia

Originally posted by: faxon
wait so intel is forcing enthusiasts to pay top dollar now for the performance they could originally net with a cheap board and chip? thats pretty damn lame, one of the reasons intel makes so much money now among enthusiasts is the ones buying budget systems and OCing the hell out of them. if intel does this they are going to probably loose a lot of money to AMD if their chips are anything near competitive in this market sector, since as far as we know they wont have this problem. plus, if they want to upgrade to a higher grade chip later, they will be using the EXACT SAME socket, so they wont have to spend more than the cost of the new chip to do the upgrade. win/win for amd IMO

I agree. It's the dumbest move Intel has made in quite a few years now. Sure, we overclockers are a very tiny segment of the PC buying population. They know that. What they keep forgetting, though, is that we are also the people who make ~75% of the recommendations as to what the rest of the world spends their PC dollar on. If we say "buy AMD", Intel will be selling shitloads less processors.

Your full of it . Its a brillant move by intel . Your talking like the performance models will cost $1500 to build . Sorry thats BS.

Intel did smart here. Keep the performance. What all of the sudden penryn disappears. The lower models of IC7 should be able to compete with AMDS High end. I don't care if 45nm is 30% faster . It aint near enough . But hay you will see that yourself . I will remind ya after ya see the good reviews OK!

3 sockets 3 markets . genius. Look at that crappy ATOM they can't make em fast enough . Intels Cost per chip $6. YA . the retards at Intel haven't a clue do they.

Out of this whole i do agree that OCed Intels are best way for self proclaimed gameing system builders "That be us guy's"... With stories like "LGA 1160 eerr LGA 1154 hard to Overclock, etc" they will have a harder time selling these non overclocking chips...!!!

I use a Q6600 even tough i prefer AMD just because of the fact that in Q6600 day it was one of the best Quads and still holds its own...

Just imagine a 2.2-2.4 Ghz IC7 LGA 1154 "Can't OC" vs a 3.8 - 4.0 Ghz Deneb "Based on speculation and reports that LGA 1154 is going to be hard to over clock "

As for the inflated ATOM's price there is only one answer- Lack of competition which is bad for the consumer "I mean GMA 950 and the paired M/B is just bad".

 

[Nemesis 1]

God Another Ic7 doesn't O/C rumor . LOL. Same story we heard about 1366 socket .

Whats the highest O/C so far on the net that isn't fake being how I banned At XS for saying penryn duals would hit 4.5 to 5.0 on water And up to 4.5 with quads .

I will say 4.5 to 5 on water for 1366. I am likely low balling it but hay . We won't see that until the second release stepping.