if they're going to show the voltage during a demo, it better be accurate. otherwise it's just even more misleading than otherwise. bad enough they imply a customer can get to 6ghz is that he can get there without suicidal voltage.
if they're going to show the voltage during a demo, it better be accurate. otherwise it's just even more misleading than otherwise. bad enough they imply a customer can get to 6ghz is that he can get there without suicidal voltage.
piesquared
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Yeah, that'd be a shame if it took less than the 1.9v cpuz reported. Again, were Core2 sensors disabled for all their LN2 runs?
And it doesn't really matter if cpuz shows .1v or 1000v, there's no way you or any body else not under NDA can prove there were any 'tricks' done as Who? likes to say. It's pure speculation, plain and simple.
And it doesn't really matter if cpuz shows .1v or 1000v, there's no way you or any body else not under NDA can prove there were any 'tricks' done as Who? likes to say. It's pure speculation, plain and simple.
who cares what tricks were used?
at best, no custom fusing was used, even then this is a suicide demo using a part that is well off the average. that is meaningless.
at worst, they used single uop mode and turned off speed critical logic to get a boot at that frequency. that is meaningless, desperate and unethical.
at best, no custom fusing was used, even then this is a suicide demo using a part that is well off the average. that is meaningless.
at worst, they used single uop mode and turned off speed critical logic to get a boot at that frequency. that is meaningless, desperate and unethical.
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What advanced knowledge are you referring to . My daughters got a lot on her plate right now. I am little help.
The only thing I know is whats being written. I also trust Tony. We have never gotten AMD cpus or M/B for testing. ATI yes intel yes . Fact is were on our second intel setup now . I get to keep this setup. Thanks to Dar.
Go ahead . I said nothing in here about having knowledge that AMDs claims aren't true. If it wasn't for Tony I would have blown this off . Like I did P1. I just hope tony got it right . I could careless about the 6ghz or the 5ghz. But the 4ghz thats interesting. From what we have read I see no reason for all P2 not to hit 4ghz. The question you should be asking is this . Is some of the info we recieve months in advanced. Insider trading. Even tho this is just a forum. I have never broken NDA. But I look real hard for people that do . Is it honest sure it is. So if you believe 4GHZ+ is going to be easily done based off of said info. You be a fool not to invest in AMD. Lets say you invested 5 figures. Than you find out this was AMD hype. Your going to take it like a man right. Not me . I worked hard for what we have. I won't cheated out of $$$. When I shorted AMD stock . I was outraged by the marketing lies. Just to prop up stock price. But I had time than . so I just rolled with it.
If it happens twice I haven't time to screw around. I will need to act swiftly . Its my family I am concerned with . Not Intel/ AMD fanbois.
But its all just talk anyway. As I do believe Tony . I do believe AMD has an O/C here. First real O/C they have ever had.
Viditor and I go at it quit a bit . He will tell ya I thought this K10.5 might have something for intel. It was posted here in a thread I believe in the spring of this year. The only thing thats caught me off guard was the Process itself. I wasn't expecting them to go bulk.
What do you mean by that?
If they were on LN2 (they were at something like -180C), the most they would come up against would be a coldbug...throttling would happen if the temp was too high wouldn't it which isn't possible in this case?
yeah i guess the temp sensors would not trigger with LN2, but the current sensors would. that would have to be disabled.
Current sensors? Do chips other than Itaniums have them? (Honest question - I really don't know). I wouldn't imagine ESD protection could be disabled, but I also don't know when it kicks in.
It would have to have them for the PCU to function as it does, wouldn't it? If not then how else does the i7 circuitry estimate TDP while doing dynamic clocking?
The question would be whether those are are the only current sensors in play. If they are then the 965 allows the bios to effectively disable them anyways as you can set the TDP cutoff for dynamic clocking as high as you like.
Do you know if Phenom 2 does? If they don't then maybe they didn't disable a bunch of sensors to get those OCs.
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u guys have no idea who fanciqos is... ROFL...
I would love for him to be on this forum and give us tech support. He is litterally a god send from intel on XS.
And you guys have no idea what intel has hiding in there shelves...
Most of you havent even seen the 2 x QPI gainestown yet... So im really enjoying reading all your hypothetical guesses...
I would love for him to be on this forum and give us tech support. He is litterally a god send from intel on XS.
And you guys have no idea what intel has hiding in there shelves...
Most of you havent even seen the 2 x QPI gainestown yet... So im really enjoying reading all your hypothetical guesses...
Sure we know who he is. He's the guy who runs Intel (since 1986) and single-handedly developed Nehalem.
I read so from his avatar and the quite flattering write-up on him in The Overclocker.
He's apparently a legend, or at least doesn't mind people thinking so.
I'm glad I was not one of the thousands of people who had a role in spending four years of their lives making Nehalem a retail product, my blood pressure would not do well knowing that Francois is there to ensure the accolades and awards are well looked after...
Cookie Monster
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It is actually a learning process, don't feel like it is a waste. People gain experiences in such journeys that then get applied to solve future problems with less resources and time than they might have otherwise required. Basically you can't argue its wasteful unless you are prepared to argue that the entire process of education is a waste...and I don't think you insane enough to posit that.
In conclusion: I'm so going to buy me some INTC and sue if my i7 920 doesn't give me 5GHz :laugh:
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