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Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

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With Coffee Lake going 6C/12T, hopefully Intel goes 8C/16T for i7 and 6C/12T for i5 with Icelake mainstream LGA 15xx platform.

HEDT LGA 2xxx platforms should really be 10C or more cores.
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Too early to do that with Ice Lake, but I could see it happening with Tiger Lake once 10nm yields have matured more and transistor performance/efficiency is up to allow all cores to run loaded.
 
ComputerBase - Kaby Lake Celeron, Pentium, Core i3, Core i5 and Core i7 Compared

https://www.computerbase.de/2017-02/kaby-lake-core-i7-i5-i3-pentium-celeron-test


PurePC: Intel Core i5-7400 - Four cores at a good price

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  • Good performance in games and programs
  • The ratio of power consumption to performance
  • Comprehensive package of additional instructions
  • The integrated Intel Graphics HD 630
  • New hardware decoders HEVC / VP9
  • Compatible with older motherboards
  • Price similar to Intel Core i5-6400
  • Minimal changes from predecessor
  • Broadwell had eDRAM, and the next generations do not
www.purepc.pl/procesory/test_procesora_intel_core_i57400_cztery_rdzenie_w_dobrej_cenie
 
Ah, probably why the 4670k is beating the 4770k. Might also be why the 5960x is so low on the totem pole (all that l3 usually makes it win game benchmarks).
 
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So Google is already playing with Skylake-SP (Purley):

Google Cloud Platform is the first cloud provider to offer Intel Skylake

I’m excited to announce that Google Cloud Platform (GCP) is the first cloud provider to offer the next generation Intel Xeon processor, codenamed Skylake.

Customers across a range of industries, including healthcare, media and entertainment and financial services ask for the best performance and efficiency for their high-performance compute workloads. With Skylake processors, GCP customers are the first to benefit from the next level of performance.

Skylake includes Intel Advanced Vector Extensions (AVX-512), which make it ideal for scientific modeling, genomic research, 3D rendering, data analytics and engineering simulations. When compared to previous generations, Skylake’s AVX-512 doubles the floating-point performance for the heaviest calculations. [...]
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https://cloudplatform.googleblog.co...st-cloud-provider-to-offer-Intel-Skylake.html
 
Like someone has said, too bad Tom's hardware didn't get the chance to review overclocked G3258 against G4560 and G4560 vs G4600 vs G4620 using iGPU only.

For someone like me who is planning to use the iGPU, is it worth waiting/buying the G4600 instead of the G4560?
 
Based on Hardware.fr's review: Core i7-7700K is 25.2% faster than Ryzen 7 1800X in games, while the latter is 35.7% faster in applications (stock vs stock). IPC: Broadwell-E is 28.3% faster per clock in games and 11.9% faster per clock in applications, Skylake-X should increase the lead in August. Assuming Intel can improve the performance of entry-level Skylake-X performance by 10-15%, which is very doable with a clockspeed increase + higher IPC thanks to the newer core and new cache structure - their entry-level HEDT (6800K's successor) will almost match the fastest Ryzen in application performance while beating it in games by >30%. 🙂

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http://www.hardware.fr/articles/956-21/indices-performance.html
 
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Sweepr said:
Based on Hardware.fr's review: Core i7-7700K is 25.2% faster than Ryzen 7 1800X in games, while the latter is 35.7% faster in applications (stock vs stock). IPC: Broadwell-E is 28.3% faster per clock in games and 11.9% faster per clock in applications, Skylake-X should increase the lead in August. Assuming Intel can improve the performance of entry-level Skylake-X performance by 10-15%, which is very doable with a clockspeed increase + higher IPC thanks to the newer core and new cache structure - their entry-level HEDT (6800K's successor) will almost match the fastest Ryzen in application performance while beating it in games by >30%. 🙂
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Disabling SMT on Ryzen boosts gaming performance ~10% which will close the gap with BDW-E. Which anyone who cares about gaming on that chip will do so, considering people favored HT-less Intel chips that had less of a loss with it on.

Also, SKL-X will be priced to match.
 
Even disabling HT for both, Broadwell-E is still ~20% faster per clock in games (Hardware.fr) which is significant. Entry Skylake-X 6C/12T vs R7 1800X will probably be close in application performance with a respectable advantage for Intel in CPU limited gaming.
 
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RichUK said:
Considering the typical overclocking potential between Kaby Lake and Ryzen, Kaby Lake or the 7700k is the better option for typical / mainstream usage.
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Eh I don't regret my purchase. At $300 the 7700k was cheaper than the 1700x and I don't do any productivity work that would take any use of the 8 cores.
 
IntelUser2000 said:
Disabling SMT on Ryzen boosts gaming performance ~10% which will close the gap with BDW-E. Which anyone who cares about gaming on that chip will do so, considering people favored HT-less Intel chips that had less of a loss with it on.

Also, SKL-X will be priced to match.
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Disabling SMT on Intel (or rather "optimizing" for smt Youtube video) boosts gaming performance as well so same 'ol same 'ol.
 
RichUK said:
Considering the typical overclocking potential between Kaby Lake and Ryzen, Kaby Lake or the 7700k is the better option for typical / mainstream usage.
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yep, and watch, I bet you SKX will be a good OCer.

Ryzen is a good value MT part, but the expectations that they were going to curb-stomp Intel were probably unrealistic.
 
Im really looking forward to skylake x from a tech nerd perspective, probably expensive though.
Honestly in true amd style we need to re evaluate after software updates, but if you must have the best gaming performance as of today intel is your choice for now.
 
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