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Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

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CakeMonster said:
Do we know how memory multipliers will work with overclocking on the K models and the new chipsets?

Like... do I risk not being able to utilize for example a 2800MHz set properly with its XMP profile if the math with my custom OC doesn't match the memory frequency exactly?
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When was the last time a K model didnt have unlocked memory multipliers?
 
IntelUser2000 said:
http://www.windowscentral.com/lenovo-silently-reduces-yoga-3-pro-lowers-price

Skylake-Y needs to meet BIG expectations. I would bet against it being a "fantastic" product. Maybe a "good" one.

The problem I believe lies in their process. Remember how they claimed 40% improvement for the 14nm over 22nm? It could be at levels which with 22nm runs at 500MHz. That's 700MHz at 14nm. But its absolutely useless at 1+ volts that Turbo frequencies run at.

Now it could be that their process range is such that any significant advantage they claim has been shifted from Y CPU levels to IoT CPUs like Quark running at 400MHz. Perhaps 14nm Quark would be 40% faster than 22nm Quark. As for the rest? I said the ball is in Intel's court.
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That article is almost 9 months old. I am not really a fan of core M (unless my employer were to buy it), because I think you give up too much performance for the cost for the thin and light formfactor. But that Yoga is one of the first and quite likely the absolute worst implementation of core M.
 
Hold your horses, Core i7 6700K @ 5.2GHz (1.35V) on air cooling! 🙂

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www.facebook.com/hkepc/photos/a.101...94338753945/10153038060528946/?type=1&theater
 
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Only a couple weeks now "Patience, my friend", on a more serious note isn't that voltage more idle-like?
My bad indeed the link says 5.2 @1.35V... ES magic?
 
Nice find doon, keep us posted.
Not bad at all for the cheapest 35W TDP chip (probably running some old drivers).

Edit: 40W @ full load.
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Only a couple weeks now "Patience, my friend", on a more serious note isn't that voltage more idle-like?
My bad indeed the link says 5.2 @1.35V... ES magic?
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I just know that if this chip regularly hits 5GHz (coupled with IPC gains) then it's going to be a winner in my book.
 
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ShintaiDK said:
When was the last time a K model didnt have unlocked memory multipliers?
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I have no idea. Its been two years since I set up my current HW build and I didn't make a huge effort with OC even then. How am I supposed to remember these days?

So if I understand you correctly, memory can be set to whatever exact frequency the BIOS offers no matter what kind of clock speed the CPU is OC'ed to?
 
Sweepr said:
Hold your horses, Core i7 6700K @ 5.2GHz (1.35V) on air cooling! 🙂

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www.facebook.com/hkepc/photos/a.101...94338753945/10153038060528946/?type=1&theater
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Although it looks good, I am skeptical. Each generation since Sandy has overclocked similarly or worse than the previous one. I dont really expect tbis to change, especially since 14nm so far has had problems reaching high clocks. But if Skylake can be more efficient at lower clocks(which it seems to be) and overclock well, that would be great.
 
frozentundra123456 said:
Although it looks good, I am skeptical. Each generation since Sandy has overclocked similarly or worse than the previous one. I dont really expect tbis to change, especially since 14nm so far has had problems reaching high clocks. But if Skylake can be more efficient at lower clocks(which it seems to be) and overclock well, that would be great.
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I think there's a strong chance that Skylake-S might overclock better than Haswell, definitely better than Broadwell-K.
 
Walter E Kurtz said:
Based on what?
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Birdie told me. From what I heard results on ES chips were quite promising but that doesn't necessarily reflects what we will see on retail chips, so we have to be patient/cautious in the coming weeks.

big disapointment in perspective for whom is fished by thoses scams, i guess that this is a campaign to lure enthusiasts buying a dude...
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You better start your damage control campaign soon, because AMD's crap will look ugly if these chips really hit anywhere close to 5GHz on air.
 
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While I'll fully agree that expecting any i7-6700k to hit 5.2 GHz would be overly optimistic... SKL overclocking being markedly better than anything since SNB wouldn't be surprising in the least. For one thing, recall that SKL is a Tock from Intel's Haifa design team just like SNB, whereas HSW was done by their Oregon design team. That's not saying that one team is better or worse than the other on the whole, rather a mere suspicion that the Haifa team may well design in more margin on the timings which would result in better overclocking capability.
 
Sweepr said:
You better start your damage control campaign soon, because AMD's crap will look ugly if these chips really hit anywhere close to 5GHz on air.
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You can always dream, It s the same wood as BDW wich Hardware.fr samples showed 28% higher power for 2.5% higher frequency above 4.1GHz..

At this rate those chips would get at 500W once loaded at those fake frequencies, only possibility for the shot to be genuine is use of LN, perhaps even Helium...
 
Abwx said:
No need to hold them, they are dead and beaten to death, HKEPC has already posted such unrealistic and made up shot, big disapointment in perspective for whom is fished by thoses scams, i guess that this is a campaign to lure enthusiasts buying a dude...
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Huh???? You buy dudes??

Arent you the very poster in the Carizzo thread attacking another poster for threadcrapping? I think the term is "pot calling the kettle black".
 
frozentundra123456 said:
Huh???? You buy dudes??

Arent you the very poster in the Carizzo thread attacking another poster for threadcrapping? I think the term is "pot calling the kettle black".
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One poster here expresses his opinion about the actual product this topic is about, i would hardly call this a threadcrap.

On the other hand,

The other poster in the Carizzo topic was attacking and insulting a forum poster, that was off topic and threadcrapping.
 
frozentundra123456 said:
Huh???? You buy dudes??

Arent you the very poster in the Carizzo thread attacking another poster for threadcrapping? I think the term is "pot calling the kettle black".
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I said that the CPU is a bad overclocker if you want a translation...

Is this attacking someone??.

Funny that whenever i appear on a thread discussing purely tech matters the usual suspects resort to ad hominems, i guess that it s due to the lack of technical arguments..

AtenRa said:
Nn topic,

Is this just a CPUz validation ?? Did he actually run and finished any benchmark on that OC ??
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At best it is under extreme cooling, read -170°C at most, or else it s a fake.
 
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Khato said:
While I'll fully agree that expecting any i7-6700k to hit 5.2 GHz would be overly optimistic... SKL overclocking being markedly better than anything since SNB wouldn't be surprising in the least. For one thing, recall that SKL is a Tock from Intel's Haifa design team just like SNB, whereas HSW was done by their Oregon design team. That's not saying that one team is better or worse than the other on the whole, rather a mere suspicion that the Haifa team may well design in more margin on the timings which would result in better overclocking capability.
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Bigger margins = worse power consumption at low clocks. Can't see Intel going for that.
 
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