Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

[Sweepr]

Kaby Lake-S (desktop) engineer samples out in the wild!

- Pentium G4620 @ 3.8 GHz
- Core i3-7300 @ 4.0 GHz
- Core i3-7310T @ 3.4 GHz
- Core i5-7600K @ 4.2 GHz - Turbo
- Core i5-7500T @ 3.3 GHz - Turbo

Pentium and Core i3 reaching the magic 4.0 GHz.

 

[LTC8K6]

i3 with turbo?

 

[frozentundra123456]

If accurate, that would be nice to see turbo on an i3. Now if they would just make six cores mainstream and move the core count down one model lineup, people might actually be motivated to upgrade. (i7=hex i5=quad+ht i3=quad pentium=dual+ht celeron=dual). I mean a clockspeed bump on an i3 is nice, but single core performance is already very good, and if you need more threads it wont help much.

 

[LTC8K6]

Typically you can get a chip with turbo to run all of it's cores at the turbo multiplier with the z chipsets. It's a form of unlocking the cpu that is limited to the turbo multiplier, which would be good to see on the i3 chips.

 

[Sweepr]

My bad, that's not Turbo. Kaby Lake-S Core i3-7300 actually operates at 4.0 GHz.

Coffee Lake-S brings more cores.

 

[witeken]

One thing that I noticed is that Skylake-S is actually quite expensive. Intel says they haven't increased the price, but I doubt it. A Core i5 Skylake costs as much as a Sandy Bridge i7 and only a bit less than a Haswell i7. Price curve for i7-4770K.

So I guess that's one way to make up for the lower 14nm yield and shrinking PC market.

(Sure the price increase goes a bit hand in hand with the XP refresh uptick, so I guess there's some supply and demand, but then it neatly for Intel stays high.)

Tag @Arachnotronic

 

[jpiniero]

I'd have to think that's also the case for the i3 T. Still, 4 Ghz is only 100 Mhz more than the 6320, which percentage wise isn't all that much. Maybe Intel will release a 7320 with 4.2 Turbo?

Typically you can get a chip with turbo to run all of it's cores at the turbo multiplier with the z chipsets. It's a form of unlocking the cpu that is limited to the turbo multiplier, which would be good to see on the i3 chips.

I don't believe that is the case on Skylake.

 

[jpiniero]

One thing that I noticed is that Skylake-S is actually quite expensive. Intel says they haven't increased the price, but I doubt it. A Core i5 Skylake costs as much as a Sandy Bridge i7 and only a bit less than a Haswell i7. Price curve for i7-4770K.

That's in Euros though.

 

[VirtualLarry]

My bad, that's not Turbo. Kaby Lake-S Core i3-7300 actually operates at 4.0 GHz.

Bring it, Intel! Make my overclocked 4.3Ghz Skylake Pentium obsolete...!

 

[mikk]

One thing that I noticed is that Skylake-S is actually quite expensive. Intel says they haven't increased the price, but I doubt it. A Core i5 Skylake costs as much as a Sandy Bridge i7 and only a bit less than a Haswell i7. Price curve for i7-4770K.

So I guess that's one way to make up for the lower 14nm yield and shrinking PC market.

(Sure the price increase goes a bit hand in hand with the XP refresh uptick, so I guess there's some supply and demand, but then it neatly for Intel stays high.)

Tag @Arachnotronic

Did you notice that the Euro is much worse to the Dollar now compared to 2-3 years ago. You can see it in your picture, late 2014/early 2015 the Euro decreased heavily.
Comparing those old Euro listing price with the current price is nonsense, despite that Intel really increased the price a bit since Sandy Bridge.

 

[witeken]

Did you notice that the Euro is much worse to the Dollar now compared to 2-3 years ago. You can see it in your picture, late 2014/early 2015 the Euro decreased heavily.
Comparing those old Euro listing price with the current price is nonsense, despite that Intel really increased the price a bit since Sandy Bridge.

Okay, so it are the ridiculous policies of the economics and politics people.

http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=EUR&to=USD&view=10Y
http://www.ibtimes.com/why-euro-falling-here-are-four-factors-driving-currencys-slide-1844334

 

[Sweepr]

Brue Computing is doing a great job testing HD 620 (Kaby Lake-U GT2) with the latest drivers in popular games.

Metal Gear Solid V: Phantom Pain
Battlefield 4
F1 2015
Overwatch
FIFA 17
Grand Theft Auto V
Just Cause 3

Keep in mind this is a Core i3 - i5/i7 should be a bit faster.

 

[dark zero]

My bad, that's not Turbo. Kaby Lake-S Core i3-7300 actually operates at 4.0 GHz.

Coffee Lake-S brings more cores.

Is that true?
And what happened with Cannonlake?

 

[LTC8K6]

Bring it, Intel! Make my overclocked 4.3Ghz Skylake Pentium obsolete...!

That i3 would clearly be out of your typical price range.

 

[LTC8K6]

I'd have to think that's also the case for the i3 T. Still, 4 Ghz is only 100 Mhz more than the 6320, which percentage wise isn't all that much. Maybe Intel will release a 7320 with 4.2 Turbo?



I don't believe that is the case on Skylake.

Well, the multiplier has to go there, even on Skylake.
I haven't heard anyone talk about setting the multiplier on a 6700 to 40 to see if all the cores will run at 4.0...

All anyone ever talks about is bclk overclocking with non-k chips..
Few people ever even try to simply set the multiplier to the turbo number on a non-k chip.

 

[cbn]

Kaby Lake-S (desktop) engineer samples out in the wild!

- Pentium G4620 @ 3.8 GHz

According to this that is the first Pentium to get hyperthreading on the desktop.

Lastly, we have a Pentium model running in action. The engineering sample for the Pentium G4620 runs at 3.80 GHz. There’s no boost clock but the chip has low-clock states as seen in the picture which push the core down to 900 MHz in idle mode. The chip features 3 MB of L3 cache while the package comes in a 51W TDP. The most surprising thing about this chip is that Intel has gone with a hyper-threaded (dual core) design on their Pentium series which should mean a tad bit performance boost over previous gen Pentiums.

 

[LTC8K6]

According to this that is the first Pentium to get hyperthreading on the desktop.

The 3.06 Northwood, which I still have running, should be the first desktop Pentium with HT.

G4620 might be the first dual core Pentium with HT? Nope.

 

[Nothingness]

The 3.06 Northwood, which I still have running, should be the first desktop Pentium with HT.

Wasn't Pentium the top of Intel CPU line back then?

 

[LTC8K6]

Wasn't Pentium the top of Intel CPU line back then?

I would guess that was the case until Core came out.

But they list the KL Pentium as 2C/4T, same as i3. Just less cache.

So I think the reference is actually only to dual core Pentiums, but even so we had dual core Pentiums with HT before.

 

[cbn]

The 3.06 Northwood, which I still have running, should be the first desktop Pentium with HT.

G4620 might be the first dual core Pentium with HT? Nope.

You are right. I forgot about the LGA 775 2C/4T Pentium like this one---> http://ark.intel.com/products/27615...me-Edition-965-4M-Cache-3_73-GHz-1066-MHz-FSB

 

[mikk]

Brue Computing is doing a great job testing HD 620 (Kaby Lake-U GT2) with the latest drivers in popular games.

Metal Gear Solid V: Phantom Pain
Battlefield 4
F1 2015
Overwatch
FIFA 17
Grand Theft Auto V
Just Cause 3

Keep in mind this is a Core i3 - i5/i7 should be a bit faster.

The driver he used wasn't the latest. The rendering issues in Fifa 17 and GTA V are gone after he installed a current driver: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvYqob-HZEM

 

[Sweepr]

HKEPC is testing a new Intel chip, and they already pushed it to 6.7 GHz - Core i7-7700K?

www.facebook.com/hkepc

 

[Dave2150]

LN2........ so only 0.1% will care.

WTB air/water results

 

[LTC8K6]

Well, 6700K hit 7ghz on LN2, so if a 7700K hit 6.7 it wouldn't be anything special.

 

[LTC8K6]

6700K also hit 6.8Ghz with all cores and HT active, on LN2.