Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

[Sweepr]

I know this is a CPU thread but I was wondering if we are going to start seeing the socket 1151 mobo's a couple months early like with the socket 1150 mobo's? Cause I remember socket 1150 mobo's being released almost 2 months before you could even buy a socket 1150 cpu.Just asking cause I am try to get my ducks in a row so I can do this upgrade.Starting this week already by grabbing me some DDR4 or a new Graphics card.

I think most manufacturers will release at least some LGA1151 motherboards around Computex in June. By the way:

Colorful Unveils LGA1151 iGame Z170 Motherboard

The first motherboard is the concept design which we saw a few weeks back and will feature the LGA 1151 socket that will allow support for Intel’s 6th generation processors that are part of the Skylake-S family. The Colorful iGame Z170 with the white armor scheme will feature four DDR4 DIMM slots which would allow support for up to 64 GB of DDR4 memory at native speeds of 2133 MHz (O.C+).

The PCB seems to be all-black and the socket is powered by a single 8-Pin power connector. The socket is surrounded by a IPP 14-phase power design which is going to deliver unprecedented power and overclocking potential to the processor chip. The whole VRM block is cooled off by a large thermal armor layout which extends throughout the motherboard, cooling off the VRMs, Audio PCB and PCH. The thermal armor also adds durability to the main I/O connectors and the bulky mass of the board. In concept design, the motherboard was shown to feature built-in liquid cooling support however, that feature has now been shifted to another model which packs a full thermal armor design and has a ton of overclocking features.

Storage includes 6 SATA 6 GB/s ports and two SATA Express ports on the final design. Furthermore, we have a USB 3.0 header, two USB 2.0 headers and a few accessability buttons on the top-right corner. Expansion slots include three PCI-e 3.0 x16 and three PCI-e 3.0 x1 slots along with a single M.2 interface. The isolated audio PCB has its own chip integrated that is branded as Gamer Voice. There are some additional features such as Killer E2201 and Intel I211-AT to boost connectivity features. The front I/O includes 6 USB 3.0, four USB 2.0, SPDIF, PS/2 port, Dual Gigabit LAN ports and a 8-Channel Audio jack.

You can see the rest of the Z170 motherboards in the gallery below however, the most interesting thing is that we are finally getting to see Z170 motherboards which confirms that mass production has commenced and the LGA 1151 socketed motherboards and processors are on their way for launch in Q3 of 2015

http://news.mydrivers.com/1/420/420936.htm

 

[Justinbaileyman]

Nehalem wasnt a huge let down it was a major upgrade from my q9650 back in the day.
i7-920's are still going strong these days so how was it a let down??

 

[Justinbaileyman]

I think most manufacturers will release at least some LGA1151 motherboards around Computex in June. By the way:

Colorful Unveils LGA1151 iGame Z170 Motherboard

http://news.mydrivers.com/1/420/420936.htm

Sorry to double post but that mobo looks cool do they have those here in the USA??I am super excited now let the awesomeness begin!! I wanna see more pics of more mobo's.

 

[B-Riz]

Nehalem wasnt a huge let down it was a major upgrade from my q9650 back in the day.
i7-920's are still going strong these days so how was it a let down??

Look at it through the lens of when i7 920 came out.

Premium price for all new stuff; I was not impressed, for how much I paid (even ~6 months after release, when DDR3 was not a rip off) versus what I could have gotten by getting a high end C2Q.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/49?vs=47

This is all non-OC mind you, my C0 920 was a dog, the board *build quality* was horrible (MSI first gen X58, over heating), I ridded myself of it through sheer luck, to get the Sandy Bridge upgrade.

I still have a C0 920 in the wife's computer, works fine, but cannot OC worth a crap. (I have tried, don't tell me I am n00b and suck at computers).

 

[Justinbaileyman]

Your just a n00b and suck.. LOL J/K no you probably just have a craptastic mobo. You get what you pay for though cause I had a gigabyte ud5 right from launch day and was able to get my 920 to 4.0GHz right out the gate, thats with a tru 120 from back in the day.

 

[B-Riz]

I'm just trying to remind everyone that, as exciting as new Intel uArch is, sometimes IRL, its not as good as you think it will be.

It looks very promising, and hope it does repeat Sandy Bridge awesomeness.

 

[B-Riz]

Your just a n00b and suck.. LOL J/K no you probably just have a craptastic mobo. You get what you pay for though cause I had a gigabyte ud5 right from launch day and was able to get my 920 to 4.0GHz right out the gate, thats with a tru 120 from back in the day.

But do you remember the stepping?

The wife's comp has an Asus P6X58D-E in it, is great for OC and all that, but the C0 stepping is not great for OC.

http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/P6X58DE/

 

[MrTeal]

Look at it through the lens of when i7 920 came out.

Premium price for all new stuff; I was not impressed, for how much I paid (even ~6 months after release, when DDR3 was not a rip off) versus what I could have gotten by getting a high end C2Q.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/49?vs=47

This is all non-OC mind you, my C0 920 was a dog, the board *build quality* was horrible (MSI first gen X58, over heating), I ridded myself of it through sheer luck, to get the Sandy Bridge upgrade.

I still have a C0 920 in the wife's computer, works fine, but cannot OC worth a crap. (I have tried, don't tell me I am n00b and suck at computers).

You're also comparing the top bin Yorkfield with an launch price of $530 to the bottom bin Bloomfield with a launch price of $284.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/49?vs=46

Sucks that you got a poor overclocker, but that's not really indicative of the uArch as a whole given how successful many people were at OCing the 920. The only real downside to Nehalem was that if you bought it late in the lifecycle, SB was just such a large step forward.

 

[ShintaiDK]

That was quick to see 100 series boards. Good to see

 

[Sweepr]

Core i7 Bloomfield was a legendary chip and it's aging better than other 2008/2009 CPUs like the Core 2 Quad and Phenom II. Let's see how Core i7 6700K or Core i7 5820K will do 6-7 years from now.

 

[tenks]

Did I miss something?

Yup. The broadwell core is out. HEDT is not using it. HEDT is a generation behind. Easy.

Why is there this logic, that if you can't buy it, it doesn't exist? Broadwell IS OUT and exists. It's irrelevant if Intel decided to release it in purchasable desktop skus that YOU want. Core-M is out as well as many other Broadwell skus. The core exists, it's out, HEDT is not using. HEDT is a generation behind.

I don't know how many more ways to explain it

 

[B-Riz]

Yup. The broadwell core is out. HEDT is not using it. HEDT is a generation behind. Easy.

Why is there this logic, that if you can't buy it, it doesn't exist? Broadwell IS OUT and exists. It's irrelevant if Intel decided to release it in purchasable desktop skus that YOU want. Core-M is out as well as many other Broadwell skus. The core exists, it's out, HEDT is not using. HEDT is a generation behind.

I don't know how many more ways to explain it

But what about Broadwell X99 server???

That is all tied to HEDT.

 

[B-Riz]

You're also comparing the top bin Yorkfield with an launch price of $530 to the bottom bin Bloomfield with a launch price of $284.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/49?vs=46

Sucks that you got a poor overclocker, but that's not really indicative of the uArch as a whole given how successful many people were at OCing the 920. The only real downside to Nehalem was that if you bought it late in the lifecycle, SB was just such a large step forward.

Yeah, my comparison is not quite right.

But, looking at that link, it seems Nehalem was really just C2Q with Hyper-Treading...

 

[B-Riz]

Core i7 Bloomfield was a legendary chip and it's aging better than other 2008/2009 CPUs like the Core 2 Quad and Phenom II. Let's see how Core i7 6700K or Core i7 5820K will do 6-7 years from now.

Oh, I'm still happy with how well the wife's comp runs after all these years, but the price premium, never liked it.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/51?vs=47

Noticeable gains, but I could have survived on C2Q until the bad@$$ i5 2500k showed up...

 

[B-Riz]

Personally, I feel like Skylake is a mini FU to all us on DDR3, after the Haswell FIVR decision.

I am going to try out the 4790k this week on a 240mm CLC, it might end up in FS/FT.

This is their way to get everyone on DDR4 and correct the FIVR issue.

http://www.extremetech.com/computin...pdate-4g-tablets-skylake-on-track-for-h2-2015

 

[Sweepr]

Oh, I'm still happy with how well the wife's comp runs after all these years, but the price premium, never liked it.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/51?vs=47

Noticeable gains, but I could have survived on C2Q until the bad@$$ i5 2500k showed up...

Very impressive MT performance bump. Initial reviews foccused mostly on comparing high clocked Yorfield to the brand new (by then) and expensive (LGA1366 + 3-channel DDR3) Bloomfield using poorly MT apps and not so CPU demanding games (2005-2008 era), I think that explains the negative tone.

 

[Justinbaileyman]

SO is there going to be L4 Cache on these cpu's then or if not what release will we be seeing that??

 

[Sweepr]

Post Brian Krzanich Intel is so secret. Zen is 1 year away from Skylake and we already know more about its architecture. If this was a few years ago there would be a detailed Real World Tech article and a bunch of coolaler performance + overclocking leaks by now.

 

[ShintaiDK]

SO is there going to be L4 Cache on these cpu's then or if not what release will we be seeing that??

Only Iris Pro CPUs got L4 cache.

 

[witeken]

Post Brian Krzanich Intel is so secret. Zen is 1 year away from Skylake and we already know more about its architecture. If this was a few years ago there would be a detailed Real World Tech article and a bunch of coolaler performance + overclocking leaks by now.

At least we know the clock speed, SKUs, launch date and IPC bump, which we all don't know from Zen.

 

[Deders]

Oh, I'm still happy with how well the wife's comp runs after all these years, but the price premium, never liked it.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/51?vs=47

Noticeable gains, but I could have survived on C2Q until the bad@$$ i5 2500k showed up...

It came into its own a bit later I believe, it's still capable of playing games that a core2 Quad would struggle with.

 

[Sweepr]

SO is there going to be L4 Cache on these cpu's then or if not what release will we be seeing that??

Complementing what Shintai said, according to the leaked SKUs table there will be a LGA1151 Skylake with 72 EUs GT4e iGPU and 128MB eDRAM/L4. It will most likely be released in 2016. BGA Xeon E3 v5 versions of this chip will be out @ early 2016 (rumour).

 

[Justinbaileyman]

Well lets hope we wont need a new socket or mobo by then.

 

[mikk]

Complementing what Shintai said, according to the leaked SKUs table there will be a LGA1151 Skylake with 72 EUs GT4e iGPU and 128MB eDRAM/L4.

64 MB not 128 MB.

 

[Sweepr]

64 MB not 128 MB.

I read that too but thought it was a typo. Will the BGA Xeon E3 or the ''H'' mobile version pack 128MB eDRAM then?
Current Haswell Iris Pro chips pack 128MB, don't they?