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Intel?s Bearlake X and Bearlake Q chipsets ...

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... will replace the Intel 975X from the top in the Q3 2007 ...
... will boost performance of Intel Core 2 processors by 15% ...
... will support PCI Express 2.0 bus with higher ? 5.0GHz ? clock-speed ...
... two PCI Express x16 lanes, dual-channel PC2-6400 (DDR2 800MHz) and PC3-10600 (DDR3 1333MHz) memory ...
... will feature ICH9 ... will provide improved network controller that will rely on microprocessor less than predecessors, support hardware-based firewall, but will lack PS2 and LPT ports ...
... the ICH10 will include Wi-Fi controller ...
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How much cost saving would there be to manufacture a mobo ( today ) without : PS/2, serial, parallel, PATA, FDD controller, PCI ?

Actually, I wouldn't mind buying it.
 
15% boost because of a new chipset 😕

I'd say more like because of the increased FSB/RAM speed...but i guess we'll see.

Seems a bit too good to be true though...
 
At work, we prefer USB to PS/2 mainly because the former is designed to be unplugged/plugged in with the power on and the latter isn't. That's a bonus when trying to make it more difficult for punk a$$ kids to screw up the computers.
 
Originally posted by: n7
15% boost because of a new chipset 😕

I'd say more like because of the increased FSB/RAM speed...but i guess we'll see.

Seems a bit too good to be true though...
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Does not sound too unreasonable. Remember back in the days of the Athlon XP and the Nforce 2. Going from generic chipset to the Nforce 2 was a phenomenal performance gain.
 
Some pics of Biostar P35 DDR2 & DDR3 Bearlake Boards here.

TP35D3-A7 Deluxe Specifications

Socket LGA 775, ATX
Supports Intel® Core? 2 Quad/Core? 2 Duo/Celeron® 400 Series Processor
Intel® P35 + ICH9R
FSB 1333 MHz
Supports Dual Channel DDR3 800/1066 MHz
4 x DDR3 DIMM Memory Slots, Max. Supports up to 8GB Memory
1 x PCI-E x16, 3 x PCI-E x1, 2 x PCI Slots
8+2-Channel HD Audio, 12 x USB 2.0, 2 x E-SATAII 3Gb/s
6 x SATAII 3Gb/s Connectors With RAID, Dual GbE LAN

TP35D2-A7 Specifications
Socket LGA 775, ATX
Supports Intel® Core? 2 Quad/Core? 2 Duo/Celeron® 400 Series Processor
Intel® P35 + ICH9
FSB 1333 MHz
Supports Dual Channel DDR2 667/800 MHz
4 x DDR2 DIMM Memory Slots, Max. Supports up to 8GB Memory
1 x PCI-E x16, 1 x PCI-E x4, 1 x PCI-E x1, 3 x PCI Slots
8+2-Channel HD Audio, 12 x USB 2.0
4 x SATAII 3Gb/s Connectors, GbE LAN
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Originally posted by: n7
15% boost because of a new chipset 😕

I'd say more like because of the increased FSB/RAM speed...but i guess we'll see.

Seems a bit too good to be true though...
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I agree
 
DDR3... Now I feel way behind.

It's about time someone finally trashed parallel and PS/2 ports. The only concern I would have is that the BIOS would have stable support of any USB keyboard. I've tried to use USB keyboards with a few BIOSes and they just didn't work with my G15 board.

Imagine what kind of CPU cooling possibilities this has. With no parallel or serial or PS/2 ports, you would only have 4-6 USB ports, LAN, firewire, maybe sound on the board. That leaves a lot of space directly behind the CPU to exhaust hot air like some video cards do now.
 
Originally posted by: n7
15% boost because of a new chipset 😕

I'd say more like because of the increased FSB/RAM speed...but i guess we'll see.

Seems a bit too good to be true though...
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Improved memory controller maybe? That is the main performance impact a chipset can make, I think.

I remember the 845/865 chipsets had much better performance than the (for eg.) VIA P4M266 chipset, back in the day.
 
Originally posted by: ELopes580
Originally posted by: monsterstealth
Its about time they got rid of PS/2, waste of space in my opinion.
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Your opinion doesn't speak for the masses.
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With almost every aftermarket (non-HP/Dell/Gateway) mouse usb, i'm always shocked to see people using those little green usb/ps2 converters. if they wanted you to use the ps2 port, they wouldnt have made the mouse usb. bah. im glad theyre getting stripped.
 
Well, even if the board doesn't have a built-in legacy ports, it's always possible that vendors will provide those through PCI-brackets and on-board connectors. And there is a way to connect the legacy stuff via converters. I wouldn't worry too much about it. By the time this board comes out, folks who dish out for new tech (DDR3, yay!) will probably prefer more modern I/O system anyway. More USB, Firewire, and eSATA. Even external PCI-E spec has been finalized now.

Regarding the performance gain of 15%, I'm having a hard time believing it unless they're talking about synthetics such as Sandra et. al. Especially considering that a same CPU/freqency should be assumed. Then again, we don't know what apps they're talking about so yeah, I guess anything is possible. 😀

I love the look of Biostar boards. One thing I don't quite understand is why the 'Deluxe' version needs such a heavy HSF cooling mechanism when the 'plain' version doesn't. I looked at the specs and they both use the same NB/SB sans the missing RAID on the plain one.
 
Originally posted by: f1sh3r
Originally posted by: ELopes580
Originally posted by: monsterstealth
Its about time they got rid of PS/2, waste of space in my opinion.
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Your opinion doesn't speak for the masses.
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With almost every aftermarket (non-HP/Dell/Gateway) mouse usb, i'm always shocked to see people using those little green usb/ps2 converters. if they wanted you to use the ps2 port, they wouldnt have made the mouse usb. bah. im glad theyre getting stripped.
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I use my keyboard via PS/2 because it saves a USB port.
If they replace PS/2 ports with more USB, then obviously there is no issue, and I would use it via USB instead.
 
Oh wait. The 2nd board is for DDR2 and the 1st one DDR3. So there is a big difference in that aspect. My mistake. Still not totally convinced about the heatpipes, though.
 
Originally posted by: Lonyo
Originally posted by: f1sh3r
Originally posted by: ELopes580
Originally posted by: monsterstealth
Its about time they got rid of PS/2, waste of space in my opinion.
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Your opinion doesn't speak for the masses.
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With almost every aftermarket (non-HP/Dell/Gateway) mouse usb, i'm always shocked to see people using those little green usb/ps2 converters. if they wanted you to use the ps2 port, they wouldnt have made the mouse usb. bah. im glad theyre getting stripped.
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I use my keyboard via PS/2 because it saves a USB port.
If they replace PS/2 ports with more USB, then obviously there is no issue, and I would use it via USB instead.
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Pretty much any new Dell made in the last 18 months is USB-only.
 
Meh, I'll pass on DDR3, especially when DDR2 prices are hitting $60/GB.
 
No PS/2 ports sucks.

First, Logitech UltraX keyboard only comes with PS/2 port, and there is no way I'm abandoning that keyboard, it simply rules. Two, I'm using KVM switches, and PS2 versions are dirt cheap ranging from $50 down to $10 for two port versions. USB KVMs are waaaay more expensive.
 
Originally posted by: Hyperlite
regarding those biostars...i can only speculate as to why the DDR3 one would need that massive heatpipe...
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Premium\overclocking board versus a budget board perhaps?
 
Originally posted by: monsterstealth
Its about time they got rid of PS/2, waste of space in my opinion.
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hey wtf. my wireless keyboard and mouse use ps/2.and usb keyboard does not work for me since they don't work in grub.
 
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