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Discussion Intel Nova Lake in H2-2026: Discussion Threads
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Fjodor2001
Diamond Member
There is this new cheaper 10 GbE chip from Realtek coming soon:
Question - Realtek 10 GbE network adapter chip for $10 in 2025
Looks like we're finally about to get affordable 10 GbE network adapters. Realtek will be releasing such a chip for only $10 in 2025 according to this article: https://www.tomshardware.com/networking/realteks-usd10-tiny-10gbe-network-adapter-is-coming-to-motherboards-later-this-year The model...
forums.anandtech.com
Hopefully that means it’ll become more common on motherboards going forward.
Please a modern 10GbE, compatible with 2.5GbE and 5GbE too.
intel boards are usually bundled with Intel Ethernet controllers
That's good news but that ain't real good stuff outside Windows and (maybe) MacOS.
Realtek support under linux e.g. Debian.
Still nice 'cos that will drag down the price of 10GbE.
igor_kavinski
Lifer
The halo chip may not get bLLC?
coercitiv
Diamond Member
That would actually make sense, finally.
The halo chip may not get bLLC?
- single tile products with lots of cache optimized for gaming and a number of other apps
- dual tile products aimed at prosumers who shy away from higher HEDT cost
LightningZ71
Platinum Member
They likely couldn't physically fit two CCDs on the same package if one of them was a large cache version. Current rumor is that the large cache isn't "stacked" but on the die with the cores.
They are using foveros and the physical limit for Foveros is Full Wafer. It's impossible they couldn't fit two 100mm2 plus few other dies of around 30-40mm2 on a single wafer.
Also yes the larger cache is just brute forced die at least 30-35mm2 larger.
The halo chip may not get bLLC?
The account on X called Haze is not a leaker. Read his track record, just some random retweet and uncertain info with no source.
For latest reliable info about bLLC, Exist50 on reddit seems so sure that bLLC won't be on NovaLake, maybe until RazerLake.
Io Magnesso
Senior member
It's ridiculous that the SOC and GPU tiles are made with a high cost of 18A
igor_kavinski
Lifer
He also doesn't seem very sure. I guess it's up to Intel how serious they are competing with ZenX3D chips. If they are able to put out at least an 8+16 core SKU with bLLC several months before Zen6X3D, they could take the gamer market by storm.
igor_kavinski
Lifer
They gotta eat the cost if they want to learn the ropes making these things in-house.
Io Magnesso
Senior member
At least the GPU tile, which has a lot of XE cores for mobile use, may use the most advanced nodes. I don't think a mere desktop GPU tile will use such a cutting edge process.
I think I'll probably use Intel 3
Io Magnesso
Senior member
Even if it is made in-houseYou don't need to go out of your way to create a GPUTile for desktop use with cutting edge 18A
I think Intel 3 from a generation ago is enough
Raichu said bLLC is with two compute die variant we should ask the AIO Leaker in the forum.
It's not tbh if you are talking about tiles 60mm2 large and iGPU Tile will be roughly 20-30mm2 at such a small size it's not costly
Intel Advanced Accounting™.
It's not like that they are reusing design from the Xe3P iGPU lol they won't have to make the iGPU on separate node.
dullard
Elite Member
I feel that it is important for Intel to do it for their NVL-HX chips. Intel does not have any new discrete GPU for laptops--they need something with good performance but low power. Plus, a tiny tile is perfect for breaking in a new node.
Then once the mobile chip has it, why redesign for the desktop chips which probably will be sold at a lower margin and lower volume?
Io Magnesso
Senior member
Sorry, I'm not saying I'm designing the architecture from its location.
What I wanted to say is, regardless of architecture It was an opinion that there is no need to go out of your way to manufacture an IGPU for desktop with Intel 18A.
What I wanted to say is, regardless of architecture It was an opinion that there is no need to go out of your way to manufacture an IGPU for desktop with Intel 18A.
They never went out of their way they shared so many things on 18A/18AP IP wise.
Io Magnesso
Senior member
And Xe3P is a GPU IP For this process
Io Magnesso
Senior member
dullard
Elite Member
It comes down to a Raichu rumor. Then people extrapolate it to be 18A. The timing makes sense especially if 18A is not being as utilized as Intel hoped by 3rd parties. 18A would have 29% fewer masks and if the equipment is underutilized this is a win-win for salvaging the underutilized equipment and personnel. I suspect Intel would rather sell that equipment time, but this is their backup option.
ARC Celestial (Xe3P) may be a game-changing GPU architecture for Intel
ARC Celestial may be a game-changing GPU architecture for Intel, using Intel lithography tech and new their Xe3P architecture.
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