Intel Mobile "Clarksfield" Core i7 720QM Pic

ilkhan

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Im more interested in that arrandale in the second pic, but...SHINY! :)
 

ilkhan

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The 720QM (1.6Ghz/x15+9 quad/45W) will cost $365 in 1k quantities, thats roughly the same as a Q9000 (2.0Ghz/x7.5 quad/45+12W)
Just compare with those chips to find prices.

I was going back and forth between saying the 720QM (45W) and the 920XM (which is 55W)
 

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Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb
Core i7 720QM

Shiny

Bonus

Interesting on the pic the die is single die not multi die. It may be connected to QPI, but its quite clear that even the PCI Express is part of the die.

By the way, the non-XE versions of the Clarksfield quad core is said to be 45W, which is comparable to dual core Penryns, after factoring in +10W with Northbridge figure.
 

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Originally posted by: ilkhan
The 720QM (1.6Ghz/x15+9 quad/55W) will cost $365 in 1k quantities, thats roughly the same as a Q9000 (2.0Ghz/x7.5 quad/45+12W)
Just compare with those chips to find prices.

As inteluser said I thought that the 720QM was rumoured to be 45W TDP...?
 

ilkhan

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Originally posted by: IntelUser2000
Interesting on the pic the die is single die not multi die. It may be connected to QPI, but its quite clear that even the PCI Express is part of the die.
The clarkfields are a single die.
The arrandale are MCM.
Originally posted by: IntelUser2000
By the way, the non-XE versions of the Clarksfield quad core is said to be 45W, which is comparable to dual core Penryns, after factoring in +10W with Northbridge figure.[/b]
indeed. 45W, not 55W.

Chart with everything. We know all the retail names for the remaining consumer chips now.
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/2195/captureoeb.jpg
 

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Originally posted by: ilkhan

The clarkfields are a single die.
The arrandale are MCM.

I realize that. But most people have been saying the QPI connects the PCI Express controller and the CPU. That would be interesting if they are using QPI for internal connection. But I have seen die shots which suggests a fully integrated solution.
 

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oooh, that is shiny.

Edit: oh ya, glad to see that arrandale actually exists now. I'm assuming the big one is the CPU and the little 'un is the GPU?
 

IntelUser2000

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Originally posted by: drizek
oooh, that is shiny.

Edit: oh ya, glad to see that arrandale actually exists now. I'm assuming the big one is the CPU and the little 'un is the GPU?

The other way around.
 

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Can someone do a die size analyzation of the CPU core and the GMCH core??

Hint: The CPU package size is 35mm x 35mm
 

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Originally posted by: IntelUser2000
Originally posted by: ilkhan

The clarkfields are a single die.
The arrandale are MCM.

I realize that. But most people have been saying the QPI connects the PCI Express controller and the CPU. That would be interesting if they are using QPI for internal connection. But I have seen die shots which suggests a fully integrated solution.

Yep, you shared that with us a while back, did you forget? :laugh: ;)

Dieshots of Lynnfield vs. Bloomfield
 

PlasmaBomb

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Originally posted by: IntelUser2000
Can someone do a die size analyzation of the CPU core and the GMCH core??

Hint: The CPU package size is 35mm x 35mm

I'm sure you could :)

I make the CPU 8 x 9 mm (72 mm^2)
and the GPU about 9 x 12 mm (108 mm^2)
 

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Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb
Originally posted by: IntelUser2000
Can someone do a die size analyzation of the CPU core and the GMCH core??

Hint: The CPU package size is 35mm x 35mm

I'm sure you could :)

I make the CPU 8 x 9 mm (72 mm^2)
and the GPU about 9 x 12 mm (108 mm^2)

The CPU was angled out of plane field by both axis, so after a bit of de-rotation and de-perspective I get the following "plane view" of the dies and the package:

http://i272.photobucket.com/al...eclarkdaledelidded.jpg

GPU + IMC + PCIe is 12.0 x 8.8 mm or 106 mm^2.

CPU is 8.0 x 8.9 mm or 71 mm^2.

Pretty much inline with exactly what PlasmaBomb came up with.
 

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I think there was the talk about the Clarkdale die size and even one presentation came up to be around 80mm2. There needs to be a better pic.

Thanks for reply.
 

ilkhan

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As I recall there's never been any official die size number, just some speculation (mostly by IDC, of around 70-90mm^2)

Just like, AFAIK, Intel hasn't confirmed how the dies talk to each other.
 

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Originally posted by: IntelUser2000
I think there was the talk about the Clarkdale die size and even one presentation came up to be around 80mm2. There needs to be a better pic.

Thanks for reply.

80mm^2 is certainly within striking distance of the measurement error here when working with so few native pixels.

http://i272.photobucket.com/al...kdaledelidded80mm2.jpg

Here I drew a border (in yellow) around the CPU showing just how much larger the CPU needed to be in order for the computation to indicate it was 80mm^2 versus the 72mm^2 arrived at earlier in the thread.

If the rest of the photo is equally "out of calibration" and we assume the CPU is truly 80mm^2 then this results in the GPU/IMC/PCIe IC being 9.3mm x 12.7mm or 119 mm^2.
 

PlasmaBomb

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Originally posted by: Idontcare
Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb
Originally posted by: IntelUser2000
Can someone do a die size analyzation of the CPU core and the GMCH core??

Hint: The CPU package size is 35mm x 35mm

I'm sure you could :)

I make the CPU 8 x 9 mm (72 mm^2)
and the GPU about 9 x 12 mm (108 mm^2)

The CPU was angled out of plane field by both axis, so after a bit of de-rotation and de-perspective I get the following "plane view" of the dies and the package:

http://i272.photobucket.com/al...eclarkdaledelidded.jpg

GPU + IMC + PCIe is 12.0 x 8.8 mm or 106 mm^2.

CPU is 8.0 x 8.9 mm or 71 mm^2.

Pretty much inline with exactly what PlasmaBomb came up with.

I will admit to rounding :)
 

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Thanks man you made my day!!
So is there any data yet on sepcs like speed,cores,threads,cach,ect....??
I am so getting one of these as long as they are reasonably priced. :p
 

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Question: Since arrandale has most of the northbridge integrated and yet still costs about the same as a penryn, does that mean arrandale systems are going to be cheaper since you don't have to buy a chipset separately now?