Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

[Tigerick]

As Hot Chips 34 starting this week, Intel will unveil technical information of upcoming Meteor Lake (MTL) and Arrow Lake (ARL), new generation platform after Raptor Lake. Both MTL and ARL represent new direction which Intel will move to multiple chiplets and combine as one SoC platform.

MTL also represents new compute tile that based on Intel 4 process which is based on EUV lithography, a first from Intel. Intel expects to ship MTL mobile SoC in 2023.

ARL will come after MTL so Intel should be shipping it in 2024, that is what Intel roadmap is telling us. ARL compute tile will be manufactured by Intel 20A process, a first from Intel to use GAA transistors called RibbonFET.





Intel Core Ultra 100 - Meteor Lake



As mentioned by Tomshardware, TSMC will manufacture the I/O, SoC, and GPU tiles. That means Intel will manufacture only the CPU and Foveros tiles. (Notably, Intel calls the I/O tile an 'I/O Expander,' hence the IOE moniker.)

 

[SmokSmog]

 

[Goop_reformed]

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This can't be right

 

[511]

He got 265K over a 7800X3D as his ex-CPU???

Either he's smoking something really good or he hates HT.

7800X3D is only good at games but 265K smokes it in everything else pretty much so either he has his priorities set or he made a bad decision
On a sidenote

https://twitter.com/x/status/1849039296025522215

Skymont is better than LionCove in FP instructions 😂

 

[511]

This will be Intel's third lukewarm desktop launch since Alder Lake

At least the 14900KS seemed cool in theory. In theory ONLY.

Raptor lake was good until the stability issues hit if we didn't had these issues it would have been fine

 

[MS_AT]

7800X3D is only good at games but 265K smokes it in everything else pretty much so either he has his priorities set or he made a bad decision
On a sidenote

https://twitter.com/x/status/1849039296025522215

Skymont is better than LionCove in FP instructions 😂

Nah, it is just one optimization. Probably because every execution port in Skymont is capable of FP FMA/MUL/ADD, while in LionCove FP ADD pipes are separate to FP MUL/FMA. Nothing to write home about.

 

[511]

Raichu will post his spec results tomorrow we will see

 

[Gideon]

This can't be right

I wouldn't pay too much attention to pre-release BIOS results, things can be flat-out broken.

His Cinebench R23 ST was also only 1800 points. That's about the same as 7800X3D, while 14900K and 9950X can do over 2200

 

[511]

I wouldn't pay too much attention to pre-release BIOS results, things can be flat-out broken.

His Cinebench R23 ST was also only 1800 points. That's about the same as 7800X3D, while 14900K and 9950X can do over 2200

BTW he thought it was running on Skymont from that score

 

[Kepler_L2]

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"Waste of sand" GN video incoming.

 

[igor_kavinski]

"Waste of sand" GN video incoming.

I hope he gets the unstable 285K sample and rants about it at LENGTH

 

[511]

"Waste of sand" GN video incoming.

We have a patch coming don't worry

 

[Kocicak]

All the sandbagging broke the CPUs slightly, that is all. In the end, everybody will be SHOCKED by the great performance.

I am recovering from the crown virus, but I will sneak out tomorrow to get me something to play with.

 

[igor_kavinski]

All the sandbagging broke the CPUs slightly, that is all. In the end, everybody will be SHOCKED by the great performance.

Man, you are truly a gem. The eternal optimist

 

[AcrosTinus]

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It is not even the same GPU, wtf are people doing here.
Run the 13700K with both and check the impact, it could be that AMD is faster in this application...

The propaganda...

 

[AcrosTinus]

What stability issues are they talking about?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1848978693898834429

The typical 😱 mongering.
No source, no details just throwing out information to depress Intel in the online enthusiasts space.

 

[igor_kavinski]

It is not even the same GPU, wtf are people doing here.
Run the 13700K with both and check the impact, it could be that AMD is faster in this application...

The propaganda...

Umm...Geforce requires a faster CPU because their drivers have more overhead. This just shows that the 265K is crumbling under the 4080's driver overhead.

 

[MoistOintment]

I wouldn't pay too much attention to pre-release BIOS results, things can be flat-out broken.

His Cinebench R23 ST was also only 1800 points. That's about the same as 7800X3D, while 14900K and 9950X can do over 2200

Says he ran it in balanced mode with 6000 memory and will rerun the bench in performance mode

 

[SmokSmog]

It is not even the same GPU, wtf are people doing here.
Run the 13700K with both and check the impact, it could be that AMD is faster in this application...

The propaganda...

Here 7800X3D with slower GPU.

 

[BigIronOnHis]

will reviews be out today?

 

[SmokSmog]

Tomorrow 3PM CET ( 23H 30min from my post)

 

[Kocicak]

Where are all those released by accident a day earlier reviews?! I cannot find any.

 

[511]

Where are all those released by accident a day earlier reviews?! I cannot find any.

 

[Krteq]

Source?

 

[igor_kavinski]

Source?

He posted it then removed. I wonder why

Intel Core Ultra 285K, 265K, and 245K CPU Review

Intel has fixed some BIG problems, but at what cost?

overclock3d.net

EDIT: https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...akes-discussion-threads.2606448/post-41321702

 

[511]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1849090225592758278

Where are all those released by accident a day earlier reviews?! I cannot find any.

You only need to wish dearly with your heart and some guy somewhere will hear it and leak the benchmarks