Intel I219V vs Killer E2500?

[ChriscomIT]

New Killer hardware is fully Linux supported. Also, the actual (onboard) Killer hardware uses native windows network stack. Old Killer hardware was Marvell based.As well as said many times the new Killer products are capable of running standalone with just the driver .inf. Why are teaming and other things useless? I actually use it and have pretty good use cases for it. I can connect 2 routers at the same time I can leverage 3 WAN connections you can nearly triple your LAN data transfer speed if done correctly. Also, Anandtech stated in their review/final words that it is not "snake oil" they just used this term to see if its just marketing or not that's why u find it easily on google. But in their final words, they state that old Killer hardware made improvements at least in regards to FPS and that Killer did aggressive marketing but they found out as well that it's not "snake oil". Did u even read the full review? I see you have your opinion/experiences with old Killer tech I have my experiences with Killer tech regardless if old/new. Anyone is free to use whatever he wants but I think the facts are clear as well as Intel is partnering with Killer should explain a lot. They simply have a state of the art networking software with networking features no other brand has in the home consumer market section. Let alone the hardware which they do not even make themselves and which is on par with Intel and Realtek solutions.

 

[VirtualLarry]

New Killer hardware is fully Linux supported.

At least, that's good news. I don't have to fear buying a mobo to find out it has Killer NIC wired NIC onboard.

 

[ChriscomIT]

Yep, and u will never ever see Killer in server/business environment. Nothing to fear at all ;-) .

 

[aigomorla]

if i was looking at two identical boards... and one was a dual intel nic vs a killer + Intel, i would pay an extra markup on the dual intel.

Unfortunately killer nic is spamed on almost all the high end gamer class boards, because gamers think its better when its not, so i am stuck with a hybrid killer + Intel.

I would prefer dual intels so i can Team the two nics together, but no.... board makers think "killer" is synonymous to RGB and gamers.

PSA, if u have a killer nic, dont install the software, install the drivers only, and it gets pretty close within a small margin to an intel nic.

 

[ChriscomIT]

Why you generalize all gamers and as well I would love to see evidence that backs up your claims why Killer is not as good as other NICs. Maybe not better I fully agree with that but I don't see why they are not on the same level. Please do some tests on your on and u will see that they are on par when run driver only mode. With their software might even be better if you have slow internet/lot of network multitasking (that's what my own tests showed with Wireshark and other tools). Seems like the moderators here have some big issues with Killer (correct me if I am wrong).

 

[XavierMace]

Why you generalize all gamers and as well I would love to see evidence that backs up your claims why Killer is not as good as other NICs.

Why don't you post some evidence that they are. Given you just joined these forums and half your posts are praising the virtues of Killer NIC's, without some data people are just going to dismiss you as a fanboy.

 

[ChriscomIT]

Then dismiss me as a fanboy for just stating facts (I used a hell lot of NICs from all vendors just saying). I don't have to as I know the truth but I can upload some test results later (not at home right now) that show that Intel and Qualcomm Atheros NICs which are used for Killer are on the same level as Intel NICs. If u look right you can also find similar tests on the interwebz from trusted sources/reviewers/benchmarkers.

And I joined this forum specifically to help another dude with his X99 Godlike Carbon Motherboard issues and he was very thankful that I did. I just chimed into this discussion to share my experiences with the OP. And as I saw 90% is bashing Killer for no real reason just for the obvious hate I had to clear that with facts.

 

[aigomorla]

Why you generalize all gamers and as well I would love to see evidence that backs up your claims why Killer is not as good as other NICs. Maybe not better I fully agree with that but I don't see why they are not on the same level. Please do some tests on your on and u will see that they are on par when run driver only mode. With their software might even be better if you have slow internet/lot of network multitasking (that's what my own tests showed with Wireshark and other tools). Seems like the moderators here have some big issues with Killer (correct me if I am wrong).

https://www.pcgamer.com/motherboards-with-killer-network-adapters-arent-worth-your-money/

Here is a review which states how bad they are.
Infact consensus is that they are not worth the upgrade price over a realtek.

The reason why Intel is however is because Intel is the industrial standard.
What does that mean? It means support right out of the box for almost all platforms.
You use Linux, it has intel support, you use FreeBSD it has intel support, you use Windows, again Intel Support.
This is why Intel nics are so sought after, not because they are just faster, but but because there are less chances it will be broken with lack of driver support on whatever OS you decide to throw them on.

Now lets get into Software.
Even you agree the software on killer nic is horrible.
It was plagued with issues which lead the community to run it as driver only.

Next we move to Teaming.
By giving us half intel, and half killer, we offically lost any Teaming support.
Most people will probably not end up ever using teaming, however it is a nice feature to have incase we want to move the platform over to light server duty.
But having mix'd Nic's will now prevent us from using that feature.

Finally the last thing is the broad spamming of gaming association.
You say i generalize all gamers?
Why is it that killer nics are ONLY on "gamer" class boards which are dolled up with RGB?
On the pure enthusiast overclocking boards, they tend to have dual intel nics.
When the nic card first came out, it was advertised to prioritize gaming packets over everything.
It was branded as a gamer Nic since it came out... to me i honestly rather have an industrial enterprise standard over a gamer class nic any day of the week, as enterprise handles way more packets then a gamer ever will.

 

[ChriscomIT]

Oh man, what a bunch of wrong statements. Sry I give up it so ridiculous. I hope the OP did get all the pieces of information he needs to make a proper decision. Just 2 points. Killer is fully Linux supported. The second point Intel and Killer are partnering now so their teaming is also working together.

The review, however, shows no advantage for Killer (which nobody said it would instead of Killer themselves maybe) and it was run with software. Without it wouldn't make a difference. The software significantly improved since then. But yeah that's what I always said. As well as I said that performance wise it only makes sense for ppl with low bandwidth/lot of network multitasking. The other things are additions who are useful for ppl who need them.

And to add its the board makers who add the Killer NICs on the so-called "gamer" motherboards (biggest fail marketing term ever) as well as on OC boards, not the gamers. They just decide to buy it in the end or not. Just said. I back up now as this is a lot of witches hunt.

And a 2018 review for their software suite https://www.tweaktown.com/articles/8491/investigation-benefits-prioritization-software/index.html. Check it out.

 

[B-Riz]

I also add Intel Gigabit CTs to computers if they don't come with an Intel onboard NIC. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Heck, even the WinXP file server got a PCI gigabit Intel card, lol.