Intel has $55.9B record year, ships 46M tablets

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Phynaz

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Oh sure ST scores matter only when Intel's in the lead :eek:
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Oh btw there's a saying at my place ~

You can wake someone up only when he's asleep never someone pretending to be, you can enjoy your regular digs at AMD & try to convince everyone on this forum (not that it's too hard of a job to do here) how every company out there strives (rather should) to drive their competition out of business err into obsolescence or irrelevance using any number of means at their disposal.

Fyi, that's the purpose for profit corporations exist. Sorry you don't like capitalism. Perhaps moving to Cuba, France, or Russia would suit you better?
 

Abwx

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2GHz (up to 2.41GHz Turbo) Pentium J1900 beat 1.6GHz Athlon 5150 in pretty much every ST benchmark @ AnandTech. I'm sure you might be able to find benchmarks that favour AMD's architecture but overall there's no way it takes a 2.4GHz Silvermont to match 1.5-1.6GHz Jaguar in common tasks. Also, <10W BTs have nothing to do with 15W Haswell-U from the comparisons above.

Mullins get to 2.2 in single thread, this require BT to get to 2.7 in integer and 2.9 in FP to match the u6700T in ST, for the rest i see that you re using DT parts scores and keep ignoring the benches of the very products we re momentarly talking about, i guess that the Transformer and other 3770 scores do not suit you in the relevant review, this one :

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7974/...hitecture-a10-micro-6700t-performance-preview
 

Sweepr

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Yeah, theres always that. Comparing mythical AMD products to products that are for sale now.

Think there's any chance they will stop crapping in an Intel thread?

Not sure how some people can post with a straight face benchmark results from a reference design (usually best case scenario for a product) without power numbers and start comparing them to older smaller/thinner/lighter profile devices that actually hit the market. I guess that's what happens when you have close to 0 designs wins, either blame someone else, start picking biased results or move the goalposts. :p
 
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Abwx

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The Mullins reference design review is relevant, for thoses who didnt notice this design was used for the Photon2 tablet, wich is a commercial product, it s just that the usual suspects are extremely annoyed by this chip perfs...
 

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The Mullins reference design review is relevant, for thoses who didnt notice this design was used for the Photon2 tablet, wich is a commercial product, it s just that the usual suspects are extremely annoyed by this chip perfs...

The fact that you are still using reference design scores in random Mullins unrelated threads (mostly Intel threads) means that this is either an obscure vapourware product (no reviews?) or the scores are lower than AMD's Discovery Platform previews. Let me guess, both.
 
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Phynaz

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The Mullins reference design review is relevant, for thoses who didnt notice this design was used for the Photon2 tablet, wich is a commercial product, it s just that the usual suspects are extremely annoyed by this chip perfs...

Maybe you should start a thread about it and stop posting about it in an Intel thread
 

Abwx

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The fact that you are still using reference design scores in random Mullins unrelated threads means that this is either an obscure vapourware product (no reviews?) or the scores are lower than AMD's Discovery Platform previews. Let me guess, both.

The Photon2 is well manufactured, the only thing that you ll guess is that with this item you ll see nothing like the Llama mountain reference design that saw scores collapsing once Core M was implemented in real designs...

http://www.computerbase.de/2014-10/erstes-windows-tablet-mit-mullins-apu-gesichtet/


Maybe you should start a thread about it and stop posting about it in an Intel thread

Certainly that it deserve a thread but neverless it s relevant to this one since i m talking of the very product that motivated Intel relying to contra revenues, you can always tell me that it was the Qualcomm and other Samsung that were the target, yet according to the review i linked all thoses brands chips are not better than BT and are all below Mullins, this doesnt retain some people to explain us that the lower grade chips are the ones targeted by Intel s shenanigans.
 
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Hey look, the BungBungame Photon 2 has a metal back!

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Wasn't the Broadwell Llama Mountain tablet criticized for needing a metallic back to keep performance up?
 

Abwx

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@Abwx - give me an honest answer. would u pick a tablet from a company named BungBungame that costs $550 or buy a lenovo yoga that costs <$400

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/lenovo-y...&amp;skuId=8732054

The Japanese article state, in yens, 430$ without taxes, from this some sites estimated to 550$ the price that would be practiced in the US or Europe.

That said i would prefer the Bungbungame tablet even with a 100$ difference, not only the APU but the rest of the features are not comparable :
http://www.computerbase.de/2014-10/erstes-windows-tablet-mit-mullins-apu-gesichtet/

There s nothing to fear quality wise since it s dedicated to the japanese market where quality is much more a must have than in any other market, set apart Switzerland perhaps, besides there s not a single brand that manufacture its netbooks, tablets and other such devices, they are all manufactured by Compal, Pegatron, Inventec, Foxconn and a few other taiwanese firms, so that it s branded Bungbungame or Lenovo is not a guarantee that one is better than the other, it s even quite possible that they are manufactured at the same place...
 

Abwx

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Hey look, the BungBungame Photon 2 has a metal back!
Wasn't the Broadwell Llama Mountain tablet criticized for needing a metallic back to keep performance up?

That s the backpanel of a prototype, the finished product has also this aluminium back panel, like most tablets, but you should look at better what it is actualy, it s the same kind of cheap pressed and brushed aluminium that is used by Apple, quite thin plates that cost close to nothing, this has nothing to do with Intel s Llama mountain massive anodised copper casted back cover.

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Intel s metal foundry style heatspreader :

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@Abwx - just because this tablet is manufactured in same firm as ipad/yoga, do u think it would be the same quality as ipad

tbh even transformer t100 looks better than BungBungame
 

Phynaz

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There s nothing to fear quality wise since it s dedicated to the japanese market where quality is much more a must have than in any other market,

it s the same kind of cheap pressed and brushed aluminium that is used by Apple, quite thin plates that cost close to nothing

Lol. Talk about self pwnage.

Still wonder what this has to do with the this thread though.
 

Abwx

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Still wonder what this has to do with the this thread though.

Isnt the thread also about 46m given chips shipped.?.

I would have thought that it was important to debate about the reasons that pushed Intel to give about 60$ with each free chip, my opinion is that APUs such that the one i m talking about are among the main reasons for Intel s dumping chips and $$, it s obvious from Anand s review that they were cornered by ARM chips for the lower segments and by AMD mullins for the higher segment that is generaly Windows 8 based.

@Abwx - just because this tablet is manufactured in same firm as ipad/yoga, do u think it would be the same quality as ipad

tbh even transformer t100 looks better than BungBungame




The Bungbungame has a 1080p screen, i guess that you prefer the T100 s 768p..??.
And also it s 32GB eMMc rather than BBgame s 64GB.?.

But what about the Z3740 that turbo up to 1.9, that is the BBG has 45% better ST perf in Integer and about 60% in FP, that s what you call better, or where you talking of the Bungbungame s tablet..??.

Also the T100 has lower GPU perf than AMD s old Bobcat C70...

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Asus-Transformer-Book-T100TA-C1-GR-Convertible.106219.0.html

Comsumption delta is up to 10W, this say that the Z3740 consume as much as 7-8W when fully loaded, when gaming for instance...

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Asus-Transformer-Book-T100TA-C1-GR-Convertible.106219.0.html
 
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coercitiv

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Just ordered a Bay Trail tablet - it was so cheap i decided to use it as a photo album.
 

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@Abwx - give me an honest answer. would u pick a tablet from a company named BungBungame that costs $550 or buy a lenovo yoga that costs <$400

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/lenovo-y...&amp;skuId=8732054
I think it would only be a fair comparison if they were both Yogas or both Photons with similar specs. The question then would be: how much less would a Z3745 photon/yoga cost than a A10-Mullins one, and would you be willing to pay the difference?
 

Lonyo

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Just ordered a Bay Trail tablet - it was so cheap i decided to use it as a photo album.

I used one as an e-Reader, comparable to other non e-ink display small tablets.
Lowest screen brightness and black background with white text and it's not too bad.
 
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Would you really want to tell people your tablet was named "BungBunggame"? That name is just asking for a joke, but I will refrain.