News Intel GPUs - we've given up on B770, where's Celestial already

[regen1]

If Intel is going to be buying NVidia chiplet for certain percentage of its line up, why not the entire line up?

It is Nvidia's IP. All the issues related to flexibility.
Having your own IP is good.
Xe IP especially Xe3/3P onwards is already going to be very decent for many things(gaming, compute, AI). Then there's media engine as well.
Intel is pretty decent in these areas.
Fully abandoning is a huge risk and years of work down the drain. Takes a lot of effort to begin again.
Don't think it should abandon GPU IP.

 

[511]

I don;t think it's getting abandoned for at least 3-4 years cause than they won't have products to sell.

 

[Joe NYC]

Fully abandoning is a huge risk and years of work down the drain. Takes a lot of effort to begin again.
Don't think it should abandon GPU IP.

Agreed. But diluting the reach of Intel GPU IP by offering NVidia chiplet is not going to be good for Intel's graphics efforts. Who will want to buy it if Intel is broadcasting it is an inferior option?

 

[Joe NYC]

I don;t think it's getting abandoned for at least 3-4 years cause than they won't have products to sell.

That's what I was wondering (on Twitter) how long it will take to bring this combo of Intel CPU + NVidia GPU chiplet to market.

 

[511]

Agreed. But diluting the reach of Intel GPU IP by offering NVidia chiplet is not going to be good for Intel's graphics efforts. Who will want to buy it if Intel is broadcasting it is an inferior option?

Not happening for all the processor

 

[Joe NYC]

Not happening for all the processor

I think Intel just created multi-year FUD about its CPUs, that will be selling with (perceived by many) dead end Intel GPUs.

 

[jpiniero]

I think Intel just created multi-year FUD about its CPUs, that will be selling with (perceived by many) dead end Intel GPUs.

That's not really a problem. Intel's GPUs are sufficient for pretty much everything but gaming. They could probally just scale back to the Pre-Arc days... and just sell products with the nVidia chiplets if the AMD Halo products gain a real foothold.

Or perhaps offer an Intel+nVidia XBoxPC.

 

[511]

I think Intel just created multi-year FUD about its CPUs, that will be selling with (perceived by many) dead end Intel GPUs.

Wait wut there is no FUD regarding it's CPUs it's only GPU

 

[Joe NYC]

Wait wut there is no FUD regarding it's CPUs it's only GPU

Well, half of the APU - iGPU.

There is nothing like Intel formally announcing that if you want a good iGPU, you have to waid (2-4 years) for one from NVidia

 

[511]

Well, half of the APU - iGPU

Should have said so but I don't think ARC is getting Cancelled in near term cause there is lots of stuff planned on GPU Side for 3-4 years at least.

 

[Joe NYC]

Should have said so but I don't think ARC is getting Cancelled in near term cause there is lots of stuff planned on GPU Side for 3-4 years at least.

Being a dead end / orphaned platform did not help Intel Guidi AI accelerator, when its replacement was officially announced (full datacenter GPUs, including Jaguar Shores).

We will see what Intel says on it. There should be some public announcement by LBT today.

 

[ToTTenTranz]

If anything, this sounds like the end of dGPUs in laptops.

In 3 years, Intel might be selling laptop SoCs with Intel graphics and Nvidia graphics.

 

[511]

In 3 years, Intel might be selling laptop SoCs with Intel graphics and Nvidia graphics.

pretty much this for cheap and mid stuff you will get Intel IP for halo stuff you get Nvidia IP i think gaming laptop will large GPUs.

 

[regen1]

Intel Responds To Questions On Future Of Arc Graphics Following NVIDIA Collaboration Announcement

We asked Intel point-blank if it plans to continue developing Arc, both in discrete and integrated form, and specifically if Celestial is still on the roadmap. Here's what Intel said.

hothardware.com

"We’re not discussing specific roadmaps at this time, but the collaboration is complementary to Intel’s roadmap and Intel will continue to have GPU product offerings," Intel said in an emailed statement to HotHardware.

 

[gdansk]

Intel Responds To Questions On Future Of Arc Graphics Following NVIDIA Collaboration Announcement

We asked Intel point-blank if it plans to continue developing Arc, both in discrete and integrated form, and specifically if Celestial is still on the roadmap. Here's what Intel said.

hothardware.com

I will take their word for it. I want it to be true so why not.

 

[regen1]

I will take their word for it. I want it to be true so why not.

Yeah, dunno what's the future and scope of this joint venture but it never seemed like gutting their GPU IP.

In the laptop space, for Nvidia this could also result having good improvement in battery life from their current dGPU solutions in laptops.

 

[ToTTenTranz]

Yeah, dunno what's the future and scope of this joint venture but it never seemed like gutting their GPU IP.

Doing so would be Intel pulling an Osborne effect.
What was Intel going to sell for the next 2 or 3 years in the graphics department? Just roll over and die?

 

[regen1]

What was Intel going to sell for the next 2 or 3 years in the graphics department? Just roll over and die?

Yeah.
Even beyond that Intel should keep developing their own GPU IP in products.

 

[regen1]

Webcast Replay: NVIDIA and Intel CEOs detail new collaboration

newsroom.intel.com

 

[DavidC1]

Yea.... RIP Intel dGPU.

Unless the ARC team pulls a miracle with Celestial, I bet you in 2-3 years it'll be iGPU only.

 

[coercitiv]

Unless the ARC team pulls a miracle with Celestial, I bet you in 2-3 years it'll be iGPU only.

iGPU in their Pentiums maybe, it's very likely that Nvidia wants the juicy part of the steak.

Spoiler

 

[511]

Unless the ARC team pulls a miracle with Celestial, I bet you in 2-3 years it'll be iGPU only.

Yup most likely with the announcement

 

[DrMrLordX]

Intel was supposed to save dGPU Space not Join Nvidia xDd

You were the chosen one, Intel!

Is Intel killing its graphics division?

Possibly, or maybe they're just bringing their CPUs closer to the NV mobile dGPUs that already dominate the mobile space. We may see no signs of this deal on desktop. Maybe.

 

[511]

Yea.... RIP Intel dGPU.

Unless the ARC team pulls a miracle with Celestial, I bet you in 2-3 years it'll be iGPU only.

With this deal yeah maybe dGPU will be killed and iGPU will be kept.

 

[DZero]

With this deal yeah maybe dGPU will be killed and iGPU will be kept.

Even more... if nVIDIA licences their dGPU in lower tiers, it might be even over on iGPU too, except maybe Intel -N