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During HotHardware’s live interview, Petersen explained that Arc’s “Graphics Clock” is not comparable to AMD or NVIDIA “Base Clock”. This Intel clock metric has been explained as an average clock measured in TDP constrained environment. This value is estimated per each Arc SKU based on a large number of chips. Petersen added that this is essentially the slowest clock that Intel saw in a batch.

As an example, Petersen clarified that for Arc A370M SKU, the 1550 MHz clock is the minimum average clock that consumers will see regardless of the laptop design or the ‘Graphics Power’ variant of this specific chip. In this sense, the 1550 MHz clock applies to 35W SKU (think NVIDIA Max-Q or AMD RX 6000S series) and will almost certainly be higher for the 50W variant. The frequency will also depend on a workload, in games such as Counter Strike, gamers should see GPU clocks above 2 GHz, Petersen explains.
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Intel Arc Alchemist Mobile “Graphics Clock” should easily hit 2 GHz in games It has been almost a week since the first Intel Arc GPUs were announced, but some details are still missing. Tom Petersen, Intel Graphics Innovation Fellow, who previously worked for NVIDIA, is now busy doing...
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Yeah, it's a bit weird that no laptops are getting sold here, despite them seeming ready. It does point to driver issues. I would expect Intel to struggle more with those than with the hardware itself anyway.
 
Seems unlikely. This is why I don't expect it to be a good product for me to buy.

My prediction is that these GPUs will be bought by people who don't read reviews, but who are Intel fanboys or who buy based off spec sheets & that they will be very disappointed. Assuming that they are even for sale for home builders and won't go into Dells and the like.
 
DrMrLordX said:
Hopefully Intel will have the driver issues worked out before they launch Arc dGPUs?
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There's one thing that Intel can do to expedite the launch without worrying about driver issues. Launch the dGPU and every week release a new playable tech demo. Gamers will be happy to see what their cool new GPU can do and wait for Intel's promise to materialize. That should buy them enough time to iron out the wrinkles in their drivers.
 
Aapje said:
My prediction is that these GPUs will be bought by people who don't read reviews, but who are Intel fanboys or who buy based off spec sheets & that they will be very disappointed.
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You are forgetting the Twitch streamers. Do they really care for a few glitches if they get 60+ fps?
 
igor_kavinski said:
You are forgetting the Twitch streamers. Do they really care for a few glitches if they get 60+ fps?
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The only people who do not care are the miners.

Intel should have released this as an AI card, ( aka miner card ), and said it was not optimized for games and would function poorly with games. That would have at least sold well and given them something to iterate off of.

Now they seem to have missed the miner rush, and the GPU market is starting to look like it might go bear six months from now.
 
linkgoron said:
Looks like this is still true.
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-In defense of Raja, he seems to gravitate toward lost causes or insurmountable challenges in this day and age. It's easy to judge from a distance, but think of the scope of the tasks he has recently tried to take on:

- Taking over the Radeon group at AMD at the absolute nadir of AMD's profitability and competitiveness in all markets. Vega and Polaris were not all they were cracked up to be for sure, but they kept AMD competitive and driver packages were solid under his tenure. RDNA and CDNA were either developed or managed under his tenure as well.

- Bringing Intel's GPU department up from piddling iGPUs to full fledged discreet GPUs in 5 years, especially for a company like Intel, is no small feat. Will Raja ultimately succeed? All indicators point to no, but god damn if it doesn't look like he's giving it his all.

Raja's biggest downfall seems to be managing expectations. Dude loves to hype, and given some of the externalities surrounding his projects, the hype is rarely ever met. That gap between the perception he likes to create around his projects and the reality of what his projects will actually be able to accomplish do not do him any favors.
 
Also keep in mind that Intel as a whole was floundering for a while. They are still digging themselves out of a hole.
 
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