Isn't most CPU testing done at LOW RES because at low res the CPU is the bottleneck?? Why would you want the vid card or PPU to be the bottleneck in a CPU test?
The fact is, its not related to video. "Discussion about Video Products" is this subforums description. Clogging up this, or other forums with off-topic posts, its not what is supposed to happen. Again, there are sub forums for a reason. Thats the facts, but as usual, you dont want to accept them. The same thing was posted at HardOCP, and it was locked. Why? Because its OT.
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Well since these CPU's aren't even close to release yet it's pretty meaningless. Besides I'm sure AMD will have a response by 2007.
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It's ok, here at AT trolling, thread crapping and personal attacks are welcome.
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=29890
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Are you telling me it was just a waste to buy a brand new AMD X2 system? When is this Conroe CPU coming out? ANd how is it not x86 if it is running Windows XP?
Something else I forgot to add....this chip has Trusted Computing Inside (TM). I would not buy this chip due to the fact that Trusted Computing will make your machine completely out of your control (The goal of Trusted Computing seems to be to protect the PC from the owner). If you try to meddle with the actual hardware, it's set to "self destruct", which basically renders it inoperable. No reverse engineering there!
There's several other reasons that you should be afraid of Trusted Computing, and even if you're not downloading pirated games/movies/music. I'd check out this article for a bigger picture on what Trusted Computing will let companies, especially Microsoft, do to your PC experience.
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html
There's several other reasons that you should be afraid of Trusted Computing, and even if you're not downloading pirated games/movies/music. I'd check out this article for a bigger picture on what Trusted Computing will let companies, especially Microsoft, do to your PC experience.
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html
Originally posted by: Diasper
A personal attack is a bit unwarranted and immature especially when untrue. Last I checked a long post doesn't equal denial...Check the post if you must - add your view to it even better *shrug*
I don't have a problem with everyone knowing about the Conroe benchmark but saying this is the wrong forum is correct and nothing to do with what scores/opinions are on a benchmark. Having different sections for different computer parts is there for a reason - or maybe I'm wrong and the moderators can correct it...
i know this is the wrong forum, but its related to gaming which is related to video cards so its got some roots here. having been here over 2 years i know this part of the forums is lightly moderated if at all. this post belongs here.
My point is that they're comparing last year's AMD Dual Core to this year's Intel offering. I don't see this as a win for Intel, they were just able to beat AMD's current offering before their future offering is released. And in terms of price compared to speed, I doubt the Conroe is going to beat the FX-60's value. Also, what the hell is up with the AMD board not recognizing the chip? It may be from the overclock, but even my board recognizes my AMD 64 after overclocking it 600MHz.
OT is billed as "a pub if you will"
i still nearly got banned for discussing something i would normally talk about in a pub. forum descriptions mean jack here
If this is true, it will be the down fall of Microsoft. Millions (including myself) will be switching to linux or even apple.
And how do you know it won't? The problem is that it's not an equal benchmark with such different types of memory. Also, the value of the CPU (price compared to performance) will be way different. Since my first Pentium 60 (which was the only Intel chip I ever bought, but I've worked on countless Intel machines in the 13-14 years or so), I've never seen Intel have a CPU that was economical enough, price-wise or performance wise (meaning speed, heat, power comsumption) compared to AMD. Christ, have you seen the STOCK heatsinks and fans for the Pentium chips?
Having the fastest CPU is great, but if you have to pay $100+ extra to get a few more FPS in games, compared to the competition's fastest CPU on the market that's only a little under that, what are you going to do? I guess it's all about what a few more frames in a game are worth to you. I'd rather get an AMD chip and put the extra cash I save into a better vid card, which is where your bottleneck will be.
I haven't had much experience with Linux, other than working with shell accounts or an OpenBSD server. But if Linux had a decent GUI and had some more game support, this would be the catalyst that would make me switch.
I agree with you Echo on the part that they are not from the same generation.
I havn't seen a price/performance advantage for intel ever since the slot 1 celeron 300mhz that was able to OC to 450mhz .
but the performance advantage over X2 is quite big... AM2 is going to have to performance at least 50% faster than X2 per clock speed..
I havn't seen a price/performance advantage for intel ever since the slot 1 celeron 300mhz that was able to OC to 450mhz .
but the performance advantage over X2 is quite big... AM2 is going to have to performance at least 50% faster than X2 per clock speed..
redhat has a very nice GUI, and there are others..
Solarius..something like that.. with multiple desktops is very nice.
Yeah, I agree, AMD will have to do a great job. But this is only one benchmark, and I'm not going to claim Intel a winner here until I see a few benchmarks from different reputable sites putting the AM2 and Conroe together, and the Conroe breezing past the AM2.
Though I'll probably end up buying the AM2 anyways, since I've got that future CPU port on my board and can put a AM2 daughter card in it, with DDR2 slots on the card!
wait until more benchs on more apps.
no , it won't make much difference with the built-in memory controller. If Intel really is faster, then AMD is going to need some other optimizations in order to regain performance crown.
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