Intel gonna be the new gamers choice?

[otispunkmeyer]

for those that dont browse the front page, nor visit CPU forum

http://www.anandtech.com/tradeshows/showdoc.aspx?i=2713

take alook at this. its a bit of a role reversal, some very good gains to be had over an X2 2.8GHz chip

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2006/03/08/intel_conroe_benchmark_fear/

bit-tech got to test FEAR

http://www.anandtech.com/tradeshows/showdoc.aspx?i=2716

AT's update, upped the BIOS, more fair of a test, still intel lead

 

[biostud]

If the pricing seems to hold Intel definately put a pressure on AMD. On the other hand these benchmarks are done at pretty low resolution for a X1900XT CF setup, and I think that the videocard, or maybe PPU will still be the most limiting factor when it comes to most users. Specially if those benchmarks are running without AA and AF.

Conroe will be a nice new CPU, but I doubt that there's any reason to switch from an A64 X2 to Conroe, unless you demand the ultimate rig or run CPU intenisive applications.

 

[Diasper]

Wrong forum still..

Most people will see the homepage or CPU section of the forums.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: Diasper
Wrong forum still..

Most people will see the homepage or CPU section of the forums.

Otis. You should post this in every forum. I'm sure this is newsworthy enough to let everyone hit the home page. Ignore Diasper. I don't care what anyone says, he's in severe damage control mode according to his lengthy post in CPU forum.

 

[nib95]

Does anyone know if 'Cell' is ever going to be a desktop PC processor.
If it is, I'd love to see how it performs against Conroe and AM2.

Currently, looks like Conroe might be my next processor purchase.
Because those performance increases are no light matter.

 

[Regs]

The Cell was not made for general usage or the tasks of a desk top CPU.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

I believe IBM said there will be Cell blade series servers, but that's about it?

 

[mwmorph]

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
I believe IBM said there will be Cell blade series servers, but that's about it?

cell is worthless for general computing

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: mwmorph

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
I believe IBM said there will be Cell blade series servers, but that's about it?

cell is worthless for general computing

Your response is somewhat muddled to me. Are you confirming that specific server type tasking is where Cell will stop?

 

[TanisHalfElven]

i read an article long time back (2 years ago i think) i nwhich the guy did a pretty good tech round up of the cell.
well from what i remebered he said that cell has a lot of pure power (you know the floting point cals/sec type power). one idea he had was that in time maybe we could buy cards for our comp in which we could install cells (since they are designed to be upgradeble) and use them for stuff like video encoding and large calculations.

what the AT'ers think.

 

[biostud]

since CELL is not x86 compatible I doubt it will enter the PC market.

 

[Diasper]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: Diasper
Wrong forum still..

Most people will see the homepage or CPU section of the forums.

Otis. You should post this in every forum. I'm sure this is newsworthy enough to let everyone hit the home page. Ignore Diasper. I don't care what anyone says, he's in severe damage control mode according to his lengthy post in CPU forum.

A personal attack is a bit unwarranted and immature especially when untrue. Last I checked a long post doesn't equal denial... Check the post if you must - add your view to it even better *shrug*

I don't have a problem with everyone knowing about the Conroe benchmark but saying this is the wrong forum is correct and nothing to do with what scores/opinions are on a benchmark. Having different sections for different computer parts is there for a reason - or maybe I'm wrong and the moderators can correct it...

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Diasper

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: Diasper
Wrong forum still..

Most people will see the homepage or CPU section of the forums.

Otis. You should post this in every forum. I'm sure this is newsworthy enough to let everyone hit the home page. Ignore Diasper. I don't care what anyone says, he's in severe damage control mode according to his lengthy post in CPU forum.

A personal attack is a bit unwarranted and immature especially when untrue. Last I checked a long post doesn't equal denial... Check the post if you must - add your view to it even better *shrug*

I don't have a problem with everyone knowing about the Conroe benchmark but saying this is the wrong forum is correct and nothing to do with what scores/opinions are on a benchmark. Having different sections for different computer parts is there for a reason - or maybe I'm wrong and the moderators can correct it...

sorry . . . you're wrong

it "fits" here

this IS video news

anyway, intel looks to be a good choice with Conroe . . . AMD has . . . what? . . . 6 months?

 

[Diasper]

Yes, Conroe is good news but how does a discussion about a new CPU archtecture fit in here?

Forums:
CPU/Processors and Overclocking ...Conroe is a CPU
Video = presumably things that relate to video output not covered elsewhere so... graphics cards and monitors. Conroe is not a graphics card or a monitor unless you're discussing how it can software render graphics.

Now if this discussion was about CPU scaling I could understand as that's been the only other 'CPU' threads brought up in here.

If you're saying a general thread about how good a new CPU architecture is I somehow suspect that belongs in CPU/Processors first and if you're making a general point as for it being the basis for a general gaming platforum then in General too. There's a reason why we haven't been seeing threads about AMD being a gamers CPU in Video - because the discussions have been in CPU and General.

This topic belongs in CPU or General before being in here - Video is somewhat down the list.

That said, I don't care. Take (in)accuracy for what you want.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Diasper
How?

Forums:
CPU/Processors and Overclocking ...Conroe is a CPU
Video = presumably things that relate to video output not covered elsewhere so... graphics cards and monitors

Last time I checked that is always the way it's been unless you're saying CPU affects the general 'video' performance inasmuch as not acting a bottleneck for the graphics card - but then if that's the case before we should have had more threads in here about AMD CPUs being the gamers choice. In fact the only CPU threads in here have been about CPU scaling with graphics cards.

Either way this topic belongs in CPU or General before being in here - Video is somewhat down the list.

That said I don't care. Take (in)accuracy for what you want.

down the list but ON the list . . .according to you

and we HAVE had AMD vs. Intel CPUs discussed in regard to Video performance . . . so there is precedent

i know Conroe will have an impact on all my HW buying decisions . . . including GPU.

Conroe is what intel fans have been waiting for . . . for 2 years.

 

[Munky]

I still dont see how this belongs in the video forum. Did people also post x1900 benches in the cpu forum when the card was launched?

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: munky
I still dont see how this belongs in the video forum. Did people also post x1900 benches in the cpu forum when the card was launched?

Broaden your mind. (I mean this in a nice way). Conroe appears to be the new "gamers choice" CPU. Gamers love good gaming performance. Good CPU's and Video Cards are a way to get good gaming performance. Hence the surprising news of the performance of Conroe would be directly related to gamers and number crunchers alike. It belongs here at least initially to let everyone know about it. Then they can drift on over to the CPU forum to read the 9 millions threads that will end up there about Conroe/AM2 wars.

 

[mb]

Personally, I am excited about Conroe. I really want to see how far some tweakers can push it on air/water/phase chaning.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: Diasper

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: Diasper
Wrong forum still..

Most people will see the homepage or CPU section of the forums.

Otis. You should post this in every forum. I'm sure this is newsworthy enough to let everyone hit the home page. Ignore Diasper. I don't care what anyone says, he's in severe damage control mode according to his lengthy post in CPU forum.

A personal attack is a bit unwarranted and immature especially when untrue. Last I checked a long post doesn't equal denial... Check the post if you must - add your view to it even better *shrug*

I don't have a problem with everyone knowing about the Conroe benchmark but saying this is the wrong forum is correct and nothing to do with what scores/opinions are on a benchmark. Having different sections for different computer parts is there for a reason - or maybe I'm wrong and the moderators can correct it...

First, you need to know the difference between a personal attack and an observation. I called you no names, did not attempt to insult, didn't even call you a fanboy.
If you think that was a personal attack, LOL, wait a bit, your young yet.

 

[Ackmed]

Originally posted by: Diasper
Wrong forum still..

Most people will see the homepage or CPU section of the forums.

Agreed. There are different sub forums, for a reason. We dont need every part of the PC posted in the video forums, just because you think it needs to be seen.

 

[KeithTalent]

I have to agree, it should not be here. Besides, some idiot already posted about this in another video thread yesterday:

Thread

 

[Conky]

It definitely belongs here and thanks to the OP for the link. :thumbsup: Media encoding is also mentioned... this is video encoding in case you didn't know.

Talk about fanboy noise. :roll: We should all be happy... this means AMD is gonna have to go back to slashing their prices and Intel will have to follow. Competition among hardware companies is a good thing! And people call me a fool.

 

[Maxspeed996]

I've been watching AMD's newer chips running the field when it's came to gaming machines for the past couple of years. I'm no Intel Fanboy myself , but I do like their products , and it's good to see that they are stepping it up a bit again. This is the kind of competition that keeps technology moving forward! Thumbs up to Intel!

 

[Drayvn]

I would have thought AMd would have had enough time to bring something to compete with Conroe when its released?

Intel has had some time to catch up in this area. It would be doubtful that AMD wouldnt have something new to bring out.

But Conroe does look mighty impressive... Ill be upgrading beginning of next year so i hopefully AMD and Intel have something to show!

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: Ackmed

Originally posted by: Diasper
Wrong forum still..

Most people will see the homepage or CPU section of the forums.

Agreed. There are different sub forums, for a reason. We dont need every part of the PC posted in the video forums, just because you think it needs to be seen.

You mean WE think it needs to be seen. Not just the OP. It's big news and should be treated as such. It's actually the biggest CPU news we have had in almost 3 years. So, it belongs in CPU forum of course, but it also has a place here. I don't know what is up everyone's butt today, but get the old crowbar up there and start diggin.