Intel Developer Forum 2014

[witeken]

Intel Developer Forum 2014 September 9-11

I will update this topic with all IDF announcements and news.

Interesting sessions:

First things first: Technology Insight: 14 nm Process Technology – Opening New Horizons

Topics in this Technology Insight include:
• Transistor and interconnect features on Intel’s 14 nm process technology are described that provide industry-leading performance, power and density capabilities
• The 14 nm generation continues Moore’s Law in providing lower cost-per-transistor
• The 14 nm technology offers a rich mix-and-match feature set that enables a broad range of products from high performance server to low power mobile products
• 14 nm is Intel’s newest foundry technology offering, supported with a wide range of design tools

There is also this: Technology Insight: Intel's Next Generation 14nm Microarchitecture for Client and Server

Join this Technology Insight given by some of our brightest technology stars. Hear how we have used our 14nm process technology to provide the latest innovations for processor, graphics and media into our next generation Intel microarchitecture.

There are also many things about graphics, with the most interesting one probably being The Compute Architecture of Intel® Processor Graphics Gen8:

This session describes the architecture’s compute components in detail. It is an ideal foundation for anyone seeking to better understand or better optimize compute applications for Intel® Processor Graphics.

Topics include:
• Description and explanation of the architecture’s components and scaling for different products
• Explanation of the architecture’s connection to other SoC components.
• Explanation of the architecture’s memory
• Explanation of new components for supporting programmability features such as shared virtual memory

Another notable session is: Intel® Processor Graphics: Power Optimization in Graphics Architecture

As computing devices get smaller, optimizing the platform for great performance in smaller power budgets is key to delivering the best user experience.

This session will:
• Explain why new architectural techniques are important to deliver better performance in lower power:
The physics of power consumption
Implications for power and performance vs. device size
• Discuss and demonstrate some features of the Intel® Graphics Architecture which make it ideal in those environments

News:

:thumbsup: Intel launches Haswell Xeon E5
:thumbsup: Broadwell PDF including Gen8 detailed
:thumbsup: IDF keynote with Brian Krzanich
:thumbsup: Intel officially announced Skylake, expected to deliver huge performance, in H2'15https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z2MrKx8iBshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z2MrKx8iBs
:thumbsup: Intel custom foundry PDF
:thumbsup: World's thinnest tablet with RealSense
:thumbsup: Intel starts selling SD sized Edison for $50
:thumbsup: Graphics: Broadwell Gen8 IGP + Compute PDF
:thumbsup: Gen8 architecture whitepaper
:thumbsup: Intel® Processor Graphics: Power Optimization in Graphics Architecture + Media improvements
Tablet Innovation: Experiences, Usages, and Opportunities with Intel’s 2015 Tablet Roadmap PDF

So what are you most excited about?

 

[Ajay]

SPCS002 - Technology Insight: Intel's Next Generation 14nm Microarchitecture for Client and Server. I imagine this will be describing either BW in more detail, or (less likely) introducing Skylake. I would certainly like to know more about BW's performance oriented CPUs (as opposed to Core M).

 

[liahos1]

i am interested in a few things

- information on core m performance. the more the better, maybe some sites (like anandtech are under nda's which expire tomorrow). Need 3rd party benchmarking, need some sort of idea of efficiency. and need gpu performance. given how much they talked up the engineering feats involved in getting CORE m made, i view this is as a tech showcase for both 14nm and what intel is doing in low power.

- need more information about cherrytrail, sofia, broxton. anything with regard to the 14nm atom lineup. silence thus far has deafening

- want to see lots of different skus with broadwell. i have a surface pro3 but would be happy to give it to wife so i can upgrade to another 2-1 later this year

- want to get an update on intel's baseband roadmap

- want to see more information on the data center group's roadmap with regard to denverton

- progress on quark, want to see wearables. i'm an avid fitness enthusiast so want to get more information on what wearable technology intel has planned

- want to hear something about 10nm

want to see a hungry, dangerous, paranoid intel under BK and no more country club intel

 

[Idontcare]

So what are you most excited about?

Since we are on the eve of 14nm widespread launch, I am most excited about anything that is 10nm related.

Barring that, I'm hoping to see more info regarding 14nm process specifics along with anything relating to a deep-dive comparison between HW and BW in terms of normalized compares (performance/clock, power/clock, density, etc).

 

[cbn]

SPCS002 - Technology Insight: Intel's Next Generation 14nm Microarchitecture for Client and Server. I imagine this will be describing either BW in more detail, or (less likely) introducing Skylake.

I am actually surprised we haven't seen more info on Skylake uarch.

Should we normally have this info for a product that is launching in 2015?

Or does Intel have various reasons these days for holding back the info they normally would have released much sooner in the past?

 

[liahos1]

is anyone liveblogging or webcasting the keynote today? can't find link to it. unreal that intel does not webcast it.

edit - i found it.

http://newsroom.intel.com/docs/DOC-5727

 

[jaydee]

So what are you most excited about?

Anything on mainstream mobile Broadwell (15-35W TDP). Realizing it's not going to be released for ~6 months, so I don't really expect much, if anything this week.

 

[witeken]

is anyone liveblogging or webcasting the keynote today? can't find link to it. unreal that intel does not webcast it.

edit - i found it.

http://newsroom.intel.com/docs/DOC-5727

Live from keynote: 3X performance vs Qualcomm.

 

[witeken]

Intel officially announces Skylake.

"I'm ecstatic on the health of Skylake."

It's very healthy. It will deliver great performance.

Hype.

 

[witeken]

Did anyone hear when Skylake will launch? I just heard "coming with Skylake in Q1."

Edit: Second half of 2015. Sad to hear the Q2 rumor was false.

 

[Khato]

So, most surprising point in the keynote thus far - Diane Bryant laying out a roadmap for Intel's cooperation with the medical community to cure cancer by 2020. Who knows if they'll actually pull it off, but yeah, that manner of proclamation is one of the last things I was expecting to see in an IDF opening keynote.

 

[liahos1]

when do we get some core m benchmarks this is unreal

 

[witeken]

when do we get some core m benchmarks this is unreal

IDF just started, we'll get benchmarks eventually.

 

[Homeles]

Did anyone hear when Skylake will launch? I just heard "coming with Skylake in Q1."

Edit: Second half of 2015. Sad to hear the Q2 rumor was false.

It probably got pushed back, with the TSX bug, 14nm delays, etc.

 

[Enigmoid]

is anyone liveblogging or webcasting the keynote today? can't find link to it. unreal that intel does not webcast it.

edit - i found it.

http://newsroom.intel.com/docs/DOC-5727

Haha,

• Anandtech: “both a bit brute force and a bit genius”

 

[Sweepr]

Did anyone hear when Skylake will launch? I just heard "coming with Skylake in Q1."

Edit: Second half of 2015. Sad to hear the Q2 rumor was false.

Probably early H2/2015 (LGA Desktop) which is fine, a lot better than the H2/2016 or 2017 some people predicted.

It's very healthy. It will deliver great performance.

Can't wait for some benchies/leaked slides.

 

[witeken]

Haha, awesome:

Brian Krzanich showed a beefy tablet with RealSense that could have come straight out of 2010. Then BK invites some person to the stage and he says that it was too clunky, so BK takes of the fake bezels and announces a new Dell Venue tablet, being the thinnest tablet with 6mm and RealSense.

 

[witeken]

Probably early H2/2015 (LGA Desktop) which is fine, a lot better than the H2/2016 or 2017 some people predicted.

If Intel doesn't want to screw up its Tick-Tock schedule, they really have to launch Skylake in July with Cannonlake max. 12 months later. Probably not a high chance, though.

 

[Enigmoid]

If Intel doesn't want to screw up its Tick-Tock schedule, they really have to launch Skylake in July with Cannonlake max. 12 months later. Probably not a high chance, though.

I agree, I think that there will be a permanent delay in the tick-tock cadence.

 

[witeken]

BK was asked about BDW being 6 months late (holiday season vs spring). It's because of yields and they need partners to launch all the products (their schedule = holiday season).

 

[mikk]

Did anyone hear when Skylake will launch? I just heard "coming with Skylake in Q1."

Edit: Second half of 2015. Sad to hear the Q2 rumor was false.

It wasn't false, it slipped a bit which is no surprise really. I never expected Skylake available before Q3 2015. Just look back to earlier Ivy Bridge and Haswell Roadmaps. In the end there was a 2-3 months delay to the initial plan.

 

[meloz]

Broadwell PDF including Gen8 detailed

So what are you most excited about?

I am most interested in Btroadwell.

Could you fix your link, please? Host your file on some free file host or just create a torrent.

Never mind. I found a copy online. Technology Insight: Intel's Next Generation 14nm Microarchitecture for Client and Server

 

[mikk]

https://intel.activeevents.com/sf14...164E31DF41CDD863B86286F/SF14_SPCS002_101f.pdf

This is the link.

 

[meloz]

Okay, after a quick look at the Broadwell slides couple things stand out.

First, I conclude that iGPU is going to get a huge boost. I expect performance gains of at least 40%. This time they will catch AMD in iGPU performance in CPU upto 45 watt TDP. AMD might still have a slight edge on 65 watt+ desktop CPU/APU, but that lead should also come down dramatically.

AMD's one and only selling point is going going gone. Now there is no reason to buy AMD for a notebook or desktop system.

With Broadwell Intel's iGPU will now be almost as good as AMD, and with Skylake they can start to properly dismantle the GPU card business.

Second thing that stood out was the reduction in idle power consumption. Intel are promising platform savings of 60% on Windos(sic). That's massive. I wonder, though, whether we will see similar improvements on the linux side. Linux distros have traditionally been diastrous where energy efficiency is concerned. My desktop stays on 24 X 7 (seeding torrents), so any reduction in idle power consumption would be most welcome.

 

[IntelUser2000]

Intel are promising platform savings of 60% on Windos(sic).

They are talking about 60% reduction in idle, and that's for the SoC. That's a lot less impressive. Even the Core M platform based battery gains in idle were only 20% or so.

First, I conclude that iGPU is going to get a huge boost. I expect performance gains of at least 40%

40% sucks for a next generation GPU on a brand new process. It should have been 80% at least. AMD will more than make it up with 128MB HBM memory.

Ok, fine let's forget AMD. Nvidia pulled more out of Maxwell without changing process.