Discussion Intel current and future Lakes & Rapids thread

[ToTTenTranz]

This is PTL product family, looking at PTL-H, there is only 1 redundant core (E-core cluster).
There are no Core Ultra X3 products (e.g. 2P-4E-4LPE).

The G3 for gaming handhelds is 2P + 8E + 4LP, so that's where the P core redundancy binning is going for PTL-H.

The PTL / PTL-U is also cutting down P cores, namely 2 of them in the Ultra 5 332 and 322.

 

[511]

The G3 for gaming handhelds is 2P + 8E + 4LP, so that's where the P core redundancy binning is going for PTL-H.

The PTL / PTL-U is also cutting down P cores, namely 2 of them in the Ultra 5 332 and 322.

there is always cut down SKU on every generation from AMD/Intel

 

[ToTTenTranz]

there is always cut down SKU on every generation from AMD/Intel

Of course there are. I was just pointing out to @lightisgood that Intel also has SKUs where PTL-H's compute tiles have disabled P cores for yields. It's just not coming in the form of Core Ultra X3 products, they're in the G3 line for gaming handhelds.

 

[511]

Of course there are. I was just pointing out to @lightisgood that Intel also has SKUs where PTL-H's compute tiles have disabled P cores for yields. It's just not coming in the form of Core Ultra X3 products, they're in the G3 line for gaming handhelds.

Well I for one think that's a smart decision cause Handheld don't require the extra CPU Horsepower they care more about GPU and Darkmont E/LP-E should be sufficient they combined lowbins with GPUs and made a handheld.

 

[ToTTenTranz]

Well I for one think that's a smart decision cause Handheld don't require the extra CPU Horsepower they care more about GPU and Darkmont E/LP-E should be sufficient they combined lowbins with GPUs and made a handheld.

Gaming is very dependent on single-threaded performance on the higher end, but one interesting thing they already claimed they'll be doing on handhelds is to completely disable the Cougar Cove cores when the TDP is set below a certain threshold (likely sub-20W) and then it'll only use the Darkmont cores.

 

[511]

Gaming is very dependent on single-threaded performance on the higher end, but one interesting thing they already claimed they'll be doing on handhelds is to completely disable the Cougar Cove cores when the TDP is set below a certain threshold (likely sub-20W) and then it'll only use the Darkmont cores.

Cause the ST performance at that power level Darkmont would be better

 

[Hitman928]

I wonder how many wafers they are doing for PTL considering Intel is moving more tooling and yield are improving

The biggest point is how much is demand for PTL cause OEM buy in Millions of Units

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there can be perf/watt improvement from the same lib through other optimizations like Intel 3 had vs 4

compare to other nodes for whome? Intel

Assumptions and speculation are doing a lot of work to come to that number.

 

[511]

Assumptions and speculation are doing a lot of work to come to that number.

yeah