If Alder Lake S is 2021 does it mean that there'll be two desktop launches in 2020 - Comet Lake S and Rocket Lake?
I find that hard to believe.
I’ll believe it when we see leaked ES benchmarks. That link could be stale. IDK, I’m on an iPad atm, and don’t have a good enough memory to type in that link...
So, who's ready for meme volumes, desktop edition?
If Alder Lake S is 2021 does it mean that there'll be two desktop launches in 2020 - Comet Lake S and Rocket Lake?
Well, if they are going to backport Willow, may as well backport Golden too. Talk about toasty..
I guess this is your last hope. From 10nm TGL NUC "this is your 10nm desktop" to Alder Lake-S on 14nm, your last hope. You will be wrong as usual.
Doesn't have to be 14 nm. They could come to their senses and port to a TSMC node, or perhaps since it's a 2022 product they could delay it long enough to use 7 nm.
For Intel to actually do a real desktop product on 10 nm, yields would have to be legitimately decent and not just hiding behind last gen products. Is 2 years enough time for that to happen?
Alder Lake is just 10nm's Broadwell, but the chips have reasonable perf.
Shame it lacks core count and power efficiency, but you can't win them all with a chip that was removed from and then re-added to roadmaps on a still non-functional node just to ensure said node didn't look like an entire disaster.
Another shame that Zen 4 is the same year too, and timeframes are in line with one another to boot.
But for those that want an actual improvement in their CPUs without accepting the Su, then you guys better thank AMD they freaked out Intel so hard they're willingly going to take significant losses just to try and appear to still be in the game.
Do we know anything about the core counts for ADL-S? I'm curious.
I would have thought they'd push core counts further given that ADL-S will be on the LGA1700 socket, but I guess it's a waiting game to find out the exact specs. 12+ cores on the i9 client SKU would be nice!8 tops would be a good guess.
If I had to bet, I think we'll see 8 cores in a single die, with +10 cores being achieved through EMIB, maybe a 16 core i9 with 2 octa core dies being interconnected by EMIB?Do we know anything about the core counts for ADL-S? I'm curious.
I would have thought they'd push core counts further given that ADL-S will be on the LGA1700 socket, but I guess it's a waiting game to find out the exact specs. 12+ cores on the i9 client SKU would be nice!
You shouldn't expect that.Have a feeling it's going to be basically the U die in socketed form. So the extra pins are for the additional IO.
You shouldn't expect that.
EMIBing quad cores? Come on now, that's all rather silly.
Because the iGPU is pretty damn big and they had a transistor budget? An 8 core die would have the iGPU gutted, chances are it won't be bigger at all.Then explain why Tiger Lake-U is another 4c part.
The plan was easy, forever:Then explain why Tiger Lake-U is another 4c part.
-Icelake with 64 EUs is 122 mm^2, similar Tiger lake cpu has 96 EUs in just 146 mm^2.
Hence 24 mm^2 for 32 EUs more, they are Gen 12 vs 11 too.
It's not so much the iGPU as it is the CPU cores. The iGPU is about 3/4s the size of the CPU cores in Tiger Lake, each core is just bloody phat.Because the iGPU is pretty damn big and they had a transistor budget? An 8 core die would have the iGPU gutted, chances are it won't be bigger at all.
Because they couldn't fit more into the transistor budget?
The plan was easy, forever:
- 2c in Mobile- 4c in Desktop- 10c in HEDT
They could with a smaller iGPU (or no iGPU at all). I seriously doubt that Intel has foregone CPUs with more than 4c just because they want that huge iGPU on everything they produce.