Thanks. FWIW, here's some more stuff to chew on. Remember, Intel uses base frequency to define their TDP. Let's assume they stay consistent with what ever program they use to tax all the cores and define core frequency at a given TDP. They had to drop the core frequency from 4.2GHz to 3.7GHz in going from 4 to 6 cores. Now there is at least some indication it might go down to 2.7 GHz at 8 cores. AMD supports a 3.7GHz core frequency at 8 cores. Presumably, they define their core frequency in some such similar matter as Intel. I am thinking 3.0 GHz myself for Intel's core frequency at 8 core. So, for all other things equal, this might indicate about a 20%-25% AMD advantage in power/core for their new Ryzen core vs the old Core core. FWIW, if those core sizes (11mm^2 for Ryzen and 17mm^2 for Skylake are correct), Skylake core is 54% larger in AREA. Does anyone know if Intel requires unidirectional gates? If yes, does anyone know which direction in relation to the Skylake core design? Is it along the long axis or short axis of the core design. It just seems likely that a core which is 54% larger in AREA would have the C term in the Power ~ 1/2 f CV^2 relation that could be 23% larger if all other things are equal. The square root of 1.54 is 1.23. This large drop in core frequency in going from 4 to 6 to 8 core might be attributed to C increase alone and just illustrates Intel also(among other things) needs a NEW compact core design relative to AMD. So, in total, Intel needs a new more compact core, needs to get past 14nm to a smaller node, and needs EMIB to yield a very high core count server offering to compete with AMD at 7nm. AMD already has a compact core. Also, the new ZEN 2 design might come with IPC improvements to the NEW Ryzen core. Intel can not squeeze out any more IPC gains from the OLD Core core. AMD will be at 7nm early next year. AMD already has Infinity Fabric. AMD had Jim Keller when they desperately needed him. AMD developed Infinity Fabric when they desperately needed it. AMD finally gets to an advance node when they desperately need to. How about that there AMD!..............and finally, AMD has Lisa Su. Who Intel got???
Only one set of dots. Better?